Can China get defeated ?

[Outman]

Only in a nuclear war which will be the end of human civilization as we know it.

After that, we can all play the real-life Fallout, that is to say a lucky bunch of us can get into a vault first.

 

[IND151]

by xixi

Originally Posted by IND151
about bolded part= sir, why India doesn't come in this category? agni 2 and agni 5 are not ready. but we have hundreds of fighters and 4 strategic bombers which are reliable delivery systems to deliver nuclear weapons. India is giant and have massive population.

4 strategic bombers ?

we have leased 4 TU 22Ms from Russia.

 

[cross1993]

to 41#

Wise man.
I hope all the Indians can understand your wisdom.

 

[Outman]

about bolded part= sir, why India doesn't come in this category? agni 2 and agni 5 are not ready. but we have hundreds of fighters and 4 strategic bombers which are reliable delivery systems to deliver nuclear weapons. India is giant and have massive population. PLEASE ELABORATE ME.

How many warheads has india developed and what are the TNT equivalents? And are you counting on the fighter acs and bombers to deliver them??

 

[Chogy]

about bolded part= sir, why India doesn't come in this category? agni 2 and agni 5 are not ready. but we have hundreds of fighters and 4 strategic bombers which are reliable delivery systems to deliver nuclear weapons. India is giant and have massive population. PLEASE ELABORATE ME.

Please understand that my silly "list" is not complete, those are three obvious examples. There is no science behind it, just opinion. Other nations also fit.

What is needed to be "unconquerable":

1) A secure nuclear arsenal capable of massive retaliatory strikes. This usually means a triad, but not always. Boomer submarines are the best example of a secure leg of a nuclear triad.

2) Massive geography; disbursed assets.

3) A huge population motivated to defense.

These three factors combined are important. For example, let's imagine Belgium has a powerful nuclear component. They can inflict horrible damage to an enemy, but ultimately their small size would allow for a large army to completely subdue it. That same army that could secure all of Belgium with troops on the ground would occupy maybe 10% of a large nation.

Again, these are just random thoughts on how the traditional definition of "conquer" isn't as applicable as it once was.

 

[IND151]

by Outman
How many warheads has india developed and what are the TNT equivalents? And are you counting on the fighter acs and bombers to deliver them??

Country Warheads active/total* Year of first test CTBT status
Five nuclear-weapon states under the NPT
United States 2,468 / 9,600[3] 1945 ("Trinity") Signatory
Russian Federation (former Soviet Union) 4,650 / 12,000[3] 1949 ("RDS-1") Ratifier
United Kingdom <160 / 225[3] 1952 ("Hurricane") Ratifier
France ~300 / 300[3] 1960 ("Gerboise Bleue") Ratifier
China ~180 / 240[3] 1964 ("596") Signatory
Non-NPT nuclear powers
India n.a. / 60-80[3] 1974 ("Smiling Buddha") Non-signatory
Pakistan n.a. / 70-90[3] 1998 ("Chagai-I") Non-signatory
North Korea n.a. / <10[3] 2006 (2006 test) Non-signatory
Undeclared nuclear powers
Israel n.a. / 80[3] possibly 1979 (See Vela Incident) Signatory

List of states with nuclear weapons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[xixi]

we have leased 4 TU 22Ms from Russia.

Right, India can cause severe damage to China with nuclear missiles.
Using planes to deliver nuclear bombs is not a good idea. Cruise missiles loaded on planes are more hard to intercept. Does India have cruise missiles except Brahmos? Brahmos now is a little too heavy.

 

[Hafizzz]

Right, India can cause severe damage to China with nuclear missiles.
Using planes to deliver nuclear bombs is not a good idea. Cruise missiles loaded on planes are more hard to intercept. Does India have cruise missiles except Brahmos? Brahmos now is a little too heavy.

India will ask their super hero to deliver the nukes on China :

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

This article is written by a madman.

First of all, China has roughly 200 ICBMs that can hit the American soil, and several hundred long range ballistic missiles that can cover up the entire Europe, and several hundred short/medium range ballistic missiles that can cover up the whole India.

If China gets attacked simultaneously by many nations, then everyone should go back to the stone age, lets start everything several hundred years later.

The government of Japan/Korea/India aren't foolish to attack China. Otherwise, their nation will be the first got bombed back into the stone age.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Right, India can cause severe damage to China with nuclear missiles.
Using planes to deliver nuclear bombs is not a good idea. Cruise missiles loaded on planes are more hard to intercept. Does India have cruise missiles except Brahmos? Brahmos now is a little too heavy.

If India manages to destroy one of our cities, then there would have hundred of cities in India following the suit.

 

[xixi]

If India manages to destroy one of our cities, then there would have hundred of cities in India following the suit.

Let's hope that not happen, cause that will let some anti-China Japanese laugh. After doing that no enough nukes to deal with others.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Let's hope that not happen, cause that will let some anti-China Japanese laugh. After doing that no enough nukes to deal with others.

We don't want any war, so our military strength must surpass USA in the near future. So this will be the safest moment for everybody.

If you are becoming better than Yankees, then they won't bully you anymore since history has proven that Yankees only attacked weaker opponents.

 

[KS]

List of states with nuclear weapons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For God sake dude, dont give these wiki figures or some amateur NGO figures to describe the size and yield of Indian Nukes. I have seen this habit from some other members also who claim India's nuke yield is less than 1 MT.

Get it from the horse's mouth;

Former Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) Chairman Anil Kakodkar has asserted that India has credible thermo-nuclear bombs, in the "plural", with a yield of "much more" than 45 kilotonnes each.

"Why are you using singular? Make that plural," he said when asked if India had a credible thermo-nuclear bomb during an interview with journalist Karan Thapar on the Devil's Advocate show on television channel CNN-IBN.

Kakodkar says India has credible thermo-nuclear bombs in the "plural" | NetIndian | India News | Latest News from India | Breaking News from India | Latest Headlines

Emphasising that India's hydrogen bomb test Pokhran II was "successful" and achieved all the desired goals, Atomic Energy Commission Chairman Anil Kakodkar today said the controversy over the yield was "unnecessary" as the country has deterrence capability of up to 200 kilotons.

India capable of building N-deterrence up to 200 KT: Kakodkar

In fact, Chidambaram said India had the capability to build fission and thermonuclear weapons with yields up to 200 kilotons. Trying to put a damper on the raging controversy on the yield of India&#8217;s H-bomb, Chidambaram said that due to &#8216;&#8216;proliferation sensitivity, the design details of the thermonuclear device have not been made public&#8217;

http://pibmumbai.gov.in/English/PDF/E2009_MC13.PDF

 

[Hafizzz]

We don't want any war, so our military strength must surpass USA in the near future. So this will be the safest moment for everybody.

If you are becoming better than Yankees, then they won't bully you anymore since history has proven that Yankees only attacked weaker opponents.

This world will only be a safe place to live in if every countries out there possess nuclear weapons.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

This world will only be a safe place to live in if every countries out there possess nuclear weapons.

Therefore, we are not opposing other major nations like India, Pakistan or Iran having nuclear weapons. Only Yankees played the double standard game everywhere.