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Defeating China – If We Must
Defeating China – If We Must | 1913 Intel

This article suggests that war is probably on the horizon. China is relatively isolated, so America can work with China’s neighbors to contain it. I suspect that China won’t play this game. Instead, China will just start a nuclear war with America.

Do you really think that the Chinese Communist leaders care if 1 billion Chinese citizens are killed in a war with America? As long as America is destroyed, then the loss of a billion citizens is worth it. China will have no problem steam rolling America.


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The history of status quo powers managing the rise of new competitors is not one marked by lots of success. Whether it was Byzantium with the Ottoman Turks, Austria and Prussia with revolutionary France, France with Prussia or Great Britain and Wilhelmine Germany/post-Meiji Japan, the effort of the established power to provide the emerging one with an avenue to a significant role in the world has usually resulted not in peace but rather in war. The competition between Great Britain and Germany in the decades leading up to World War One is particularly instructive in this regard. There were no economic, strategic or even political reasons for these two powers to end up in war. Rather, it was the unconstrained egoism of the German government, the rising power, which caused it to directly and unnecessarily challenge core British security interests. Ultimately, war came because Austria Hungary and Germany wanted one.

This history does not provide a basis for much optimism when it comes to the future of U.S.-Chinese relations. In almost every way imaginable, the world has enabled and even welcomed the rise of modern China. No country has done more in this regard than the United States.

The result has not been an ever-closer union of interests. Rather, China appears to be growing ever-more contemptuous of the United States. Just prior to his official visit to the United States, China’s president, Hu Jintao, declared that the dollar-based international economic order was “passé.” At the same time, the Chinese military publicly unveiled its entrant in the fifth-generation fighter competition, the J-20. These events come in addition to that military’s investment in an anti-carrier ballistic missile.

The United States, indeed the entire world, has offered China a peaceful path towards a place as a great power. However, if a combination of overweening nationalism, hubris and egoism, China continues on a path of posing a direct and growing threat to U.S. vital national interests, this country must be willing to take the necessary actions to counter the Chinese military threat.

In many ways China’s position is much weaker than it appears at first glance. Its only ally in East Asia is North Korea. It is faced with a ring of states from Japan through Taiwan to Australia, Singapore and even India that are opposed, admittedly to varying degrees, to Chinese regional hegemony.

If China seeks to dominate the region it is going to have to exert its power, emerging from its current shell and project military force beyond its borders. China’s plan to build its own fleet of aircraft carriers is an indication that this is exactly what it intends to do. This will make it vulnerable to the air and naval power of the United States and its allies. The United States can and must maintain the ability not only to counter the projection of Chinese military power but, if necessary be able to take the conflict to the mainland. Proposed investments in a new strategic bomber, sea-based unmanned aerial systems, space launch capabilities and advanced missile defenses are the first steps in a new program to make aggression unattractive to future Chinese leaders. Along with continued investments in nuclear attack submarines, aircraft carriers and multi-mission surface combatants, these new programs can send the necessary message to Beijing that the path to the future must be a peaceful one.

If Beijing continues on its current path of seeking to pose a military challenge to the United States then Washington will have no recourse but to reconsider its economic ties with that country. Chinese efforts to use access to its markets as leverage in its commercial relations with Western companies are becoming extremely onerous. As the largest holder of our public debt, China’s military buildup is being paid for by U.S. interest payments. This cannot continue in the face of a more confrontational posture by Beijing. The risk is of a self-reinforcing cycle in which Chinese military aggressiveness provokes an economic backlash by the United States that produces, in turn, domestic political upheavals in China that are met by a decision by that country’s government to act in an even more belligerent manner. A similar situation between Imperial Japan and the United States ended with the attack on Pearl Harbor.

I guess it will be next to impossible to defeat a Nuclear Armed China.
The China today is not the same China of yesterday in which Japan labeled as "Sick man of Asia".
 
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except their equipment not much is known about the chinese army,hence to say anything about victory or defeat is complicated.

warfare has changed leaps and bounds in the 21st century compared to the 20th century.

there has been hardly any large scale military to military confrontation in since 2000.
 
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Yes, US can defeat China.PLA has little experience in any form of warfare since 1962.US has been involved in combat operations or was in a state of 24hrs operational readiness since 1941.:usflag::lol:

Yet for some reason, the USA still can't beat tiny countries like Vietnam, North Korea and Afghanistan?

To answer the topic: Of course any country can be defeated if the circumstances are right. No country is invincible.
 
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Yes, US can defeat China.PLA has little experience in any form of warfare since 1962.US has been involved in combat operations or was in a state of 24hrs operational readiness since 1941.:usflag::lol:

what factors are you taking in play??

china enjoys heavy numerical superiority in no. men over the US

has technological experience and economic power to sustain a longer battlefield.

mobilisation of troops is another issue america needs it navy first a mighty ocean has to be crossed,US can use their bases nearest to china in okinawa and south korea for first strike.but will americans leave korea just like that,if they do north korea will pounce upon the south koreans.

many other factors come into play.though china-us war can be made into a fictional product cause i dont see a 0.1% chance of it happening.

china has a better weapon in hand all american production centers are stationed in america,china shuts them down in protest ,game over negotiations begin the world enjoys yet another day of peace.
 
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"Little experience" ??? LOL

Do Nuclear tipped ICBMs need experience to fly to hit their targets ???


that is if you want to have max civilian casaulties, even in iraq coaltion forces wanted almost zero civilian casaulties.

a govt will fight a military ,but no govt. is strong enough to see a million citizens get incinerated not US,china,india,pak,russia.
 
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yes china can get defeated if US,INDIA,JAPAN,RUSSIA ATTACK IT SIMULTANEOUSLY. CHINA IS MIGHTY BUT IT CAN NOT FIGHT THIS FOUR MAJOR POWERS SIMULTANEOUSLY.
 
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it will be a disaster if war between china and US begins. that means end of the world. they have nuclear weapons. thin about this,
war begins --> china and u.s. throw nuclear bombs to each other --> they also throw nuclear bombs to russia and europe --> europe and russia throw nuclear bombs to china/us too --> they all throw nuclear bombs to the other countries and end the world.
 
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yes china can get defeated if US,INDIA,JAPAN,RUSSIA ATTACK IT SIMULTANEOUSLY. CHINA IS MIGHTY BUT IT CAN NOT FIGHT THIS FOUR MAJOR POWERS SIMULTANEOUSLY.

Wet dreams. :lol:

- Russia is also an ally of China.
- USA is a strategic partner and we have the biggest bilateral economic relationship in the world.
- Japan has a pacifist constitution which prevents it from attacking anyone.

India will be fighting alone, just like it did before.
 
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yes china can get defeated if US,INDIA,JAPAN,RUSSIA ATTACK IT SIMULTANEOUSLY. CHINA IS MIGHTY BUT IT CAN NOT FIGHT THIS FOUR MAJOR POWERS SIMULTANEOUSLY.

Wishful thinking, give me a reason why all those countries will risk a nuclear war alongside with "India" against China? and BTW, don't let your imagination run too wild, you are talking about a world war 3.:lol:

Oh, becareful what you wish for, take a guess which country will get the worst end of the stick in such senario.:D
 
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dont know who will win...but will be the biggest ever clash world has ever seen if US and China go for a war.
 
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