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If you had bothered to check, these datas that you have presented are from IMF's economic outlook Database Sptember 2006 (Check the top right hand corner of the report). Here is the economic outlook report from April 2008.

Report for Selected Countries and Subjects

Check the disparity in the 2007 per capita income in both the report. However these are only the estimates as indicated by the grey shaded areas.

The actual calculated data is below.

World Bank estimates

India - Per Capita GDP
Nominal - $820
PPP - $2460

Pakistan - Per Capita GDP
Nominal - $800
PPP - $2410

Economist's estimates

India - Per Capita GDP
Nominal - $1033
PPP - $2777

Pakistan - Per Capita GDP
Nominal - $871
PPP - $2497

Hope it clears the air.


If you had bothered to check, the date mentioned on World bank reports is dated 2006!!

The report that I mentioned is the latest presented by IMF in collaboration with ADB, World Bank and others.
 
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If you had bothered to check, the date mentioned on World bank reports is dated 2006!!

First of all World Bank always calculates data for Jan-Dec period as countries have different financial year endings. So there 2006 data is the latest as per their records. Year 2007 data would be out sometime in July-August when they have acquired all the data and done their calculations.

The report that I mentioned is the latest presented by IMF in collaboration with ADB, World Bank and others.

What a bullcr@p!!! IMF collaborates with ADB/World Bank/others & presents only the estimates????

The figures that you mentioned are from their World Economic Outlook report published in September 2006(Once again check the Upper right hand corner) whereas I presented you the data from their World Economic Outlook report published in April 2008(check the upper right hand corner again). No points for guessing which is the latest report.

However both these reports only have estimates as shown in shaded grey area whereas World Bank & economist have the calculated data & not the estimates. Check all the links, study them & then make another post.

P.S. World economic Outlook report is IMF's inhouse publication & there is absolutely no collaboration with ADB, World Bank, Swiss Bank or anyone else. The opening pretext says it all

A Survey by the IMF staff usually published twice a year. It presents IMF staff economists' analyses of global economic developments during the near and medium term. Chapters give an overview as well as more detailed analysis of the world economy; consider issues affecting industrial countries, developing countries, and economies in transition to market; and address topics of pressing current interest. Annexes, boxes, charts, and an extensive statistical appendix augment the text.

IMF World Economic Outlook Reports List
 
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There is a difference sir, bpo companies are different to companies in it services.for bpo companies u dont need a highly educated(skilled) person a person with a good linguistic ability is sufficient because there main duty is customer care where as it sector includes companies like TCS,Infosys,ibm they require very highly skilled workers because theyre work is highly complicated i.e they create new softwares create new system's.
India's major growth is due to these companies not bpo.

I don’t think that most of the revenue in India is generated from software development. IMO call centers generates more money the reason is Call center jobs are not complicated while a s/w requires a lot of time to develop and their Quality control and assurance is not an easy task since a s/w product I not like other products it requires more money, time and effort provided that solution is unique otherwise its difficult to sell.
 
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I don’t think that most of the revenue in India is generated from software development. IMO call centers generates more money the reason is Call center jobs are not complicated while a s/w requires a lot of time to develop and their Quality control and assurance is not an easy task since a s/w product I not like other products it requires more money, time and effort provided that solution is unique otherwise its difficult to sell.

Call Centres in India barely generate over 10% of revenue. Nearly 75% of the export revenue comes from the software development. Below is the link

Indian Software Export Figures - Software Industries and Development - Development Informatics Group - IDPM research (School of Environment and Development - The University of Manchester)

The data is upto the last year when total IT/ITES revenue was $32 billion. For confirmation see the notes at the end of the table.
 
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Bangladesh has too many frequent natural disasters to grow comfortably. These cyclones/floods/loss of land will increase in the future and cause more problems.

Same thing can be said about the Indian state of Orissa. They have been battling Cyclones for so many centuries that they can't do anything else.
 
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South Asian economies will be dominated by India and Pakistan with Bangladesh and Srilanka taking 3rd and 4th spot. Chauvinism apart this is the hard reality. Bangladesh will have to record more than 10% growth for atleast a decade to surpass Pakistan, its just not going to happen.
 
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South Asian economies will be dominated by India and Pakistan with Bangladesh and Srilanka taking 3rd and 4th spot. Chauvinism apart this is the hard reality. Bangladesh will have to record more than 10% growth for atleast a decade to surpass Pakistan, its just not going to happen.

Stranger things have happened. India was considered a basket case from the 60's to the 90's. US donated food to India to survive, the food went directly from the ships to the mouths of the people. The world said India can and never will make it big.

The world never thought China would be able to rise, they never thought that any other country has the potential to challenge USA after the erstwhile Soviet Union.

And these are just small blimps in history.
 
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Bangladesh have advantage bcoz they have huge population living very closly

but it can be their disadvantage too...bcoz cant start new project like gwader
 
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Can it happen? Sure it can. Stranger things have happened and are happening all around us.

Will it happen? Highly doubtful. Given the reasons some people have already outlined. Too many natural disasters. Too few resources compared to the population. The cussed nature of the leadership that refuses to maintain friendly relations with the only country that can help out when needed. Growing fundamentalism et al.
 
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Will it happen? Highly doubtful. Given the reasons some people have already outlined. Too many natural disasters

I am seriously worried about natural phenomenons affecting BD , studies suggest that BD will be majorly affected by Global warming with significant changes in geography and population migration pattern, I think this will be one of the epic challenges faced by BD in the future and am sure that India , Pakistan and several south asian nations will play a key role suppoting BD in future.

cheers
 
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No one else is any position to offer any serious help when needed. Others may try to use them for their anti-India nuisance value and that's it.

Hope they start thinking about maintaining good relations with their neighbors and not burning bridges and trying to play useless games.
 
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I did read it somewhere that if Bangladesh keeps up what it's doing it will surpass Pakistan's economy in the years to come and be the 2nd largest economy in South Asia. Pakistan invests heavily on the armed forces while Bangladesh invests in social sectors, empowering women, healthcare, and education. Not to mention Bangladesh is home to BRAC, the largest NGO in the world which virtually empowers the poor to get free edcuation, health care, and skills training to get industrialized jobs. The payments from these jobs allows the workers to increase their standard of living. In the last 10 years Bangladesh's middle class has gotten bigger due to the tremendou opportunies the poor received. Also, currently the military now keeps an eye on politics since 1/11 and so after the new election the military will not allow political instability. The military in Bangladesh cannot stay in power because the people will not let them and also due to the pressure from international community. The International community did acknowledge that Bangladesh is developing at a very fast and unusual rate.

Pakistan needs to invest on the social sector more to increase their GDP. Pakistan also needs to stablize her politics otherwise the economy will be hampered and the only way to do so is education.

As for the idea of intelligent and martial people, it's all bullshit. Pakistanis are equally smart as Bangladeshis, Bengalis just chooses less military while Punjabis choose more military, that's it.

And Vinod2070 is right, things can happen. For example, in Chittagong University a student developed a robot from scraps to do basic houshold chores...and he's not even Japanese, he's Bengali. That student is now talking certain IT compaines in Bangladesh to take his idea to the market. It's all about potential and bangladesh has that, but unlike Pakistan, Bangladeshi people have more freedom to exercise opportunities. In Pakistan the people have a lot of potential but the government system in Pakistan don't let them take it to the next level that's why there is a possible chance Bangladesh's economy may surpass Pakistan's economy.
 
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The "Bengalis are more intelligent" theory being bandied about by some people here is very amusing. I don't know much about Bangladeshis, but as far as India is concerned, West Bengal is the only state to consistently vote in the communists to power. Indian communists are notorious for blocking crucial economic reforms for the national economy.(What they do in their state is a diff story) not to mention being more concerned about China's welfare than Indias. Any amount of brains will be insufficient if you keep voting in a govt. which follows archaic and harmful economic policies.
 
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WB analyst observes Bangladesh economy stronger in the region


Staff Reporter



Bangladesh is still not hit hard by the ongoing global economic recession and the economy of the country is stronger in comparison with other countries in the region, said the World Bank (WB) yesterday. "The economy of the country is stronger in comparison with other countries in the region and it has more time to anticipate effects than developed and other emerging nations", said Zahid Hussain, senior economist of the WB at a workshop on 'State of Bangladesh Economy and Policy Response to the Global Financial Crisis' at the bank office in the city.

Mehrin A Mahbub, public information associate delivered the welcome speech while Xian Zhu, country director of the WB made the opening remarks.

Zahid said the economy of the country was stable and the projected economic growth for the fiscal year 09 would be 5.5 per cent. He, however, said in the worst case of declining of export and remittance it could be as low as 4.5 per cent in the fiscal year 09.

The senior economist of the bank said that the inflation rate of 6.1 per cent in January of this year was quite satisfactory due to the falling prices of commodities in the international market.

Recession in the developed markets and slowdown in the Middle East has already begun to pose threat to Bangladeshi exports and remittance inflows, he added.

Citing a 30 percent decline in capital machinery import, Zahid said there might have been a significant slowdown in investments.

On the impacts of the global crisis he said, export, remittance, revenue and banking sector along with the employment would be affected severely.

"At least 2 to 2.5 million new local jobs will be needed until the global economy recovers, compared to 1.1 million job creation prior to the crisis," he mentioned.

"Demands for bailout packages from businesses might not help the poor and the agriculture, livestock and fisheries sectors are doing well", said the senior economist of the international donor agency.

Xian Zhu said the impact on Bangladesh's growth may not be severe during the current fiscal year and the government should prepare the best for the worst.

He said that government need to take precautionary measures to mitigate the impacts of the crisis especially for the poor by creating more jobs internally and safety net programmes should be given highest priority.

"The government needs to carry out the unfinished reform agenda to turn Bangladesh a middle income country," he added.
 
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Friday, April 17, 2009
100 days of Mohajote Government​
Economy off to a steady start

Shah Husain Imam

FROM day one of its assumption of office, the Mohajote Alliance, led by the Awami League, took a firm grip of the economy. At its very first cabinet meeting, fertiliser prices were halved and diesel price decreased by Tk 2 per litre. This reduced cost of cereal production by up to Tk 2.5 per kg. Boro cultivation, the mainstay for food security, received a boost with a message going out to the peasantry that it is in character with the new government to be friendly and caring to them.

The first moves along with the falling international oil and commodity prices triggered a fall in domestic prices, almost across the board. In the process, the syndicates were roundly left without any wind in the sail to be playing around with inflationary expectations in manipulating the market forces to serve their ends.

It so happens that warnings were issued by the finance and commerce ministers early in the day through all conceivable fora that illegal syndication, hoarding and speculative trading would be dealt with severely. With market intelligence available to a well-structured winning political party such as the Awami League, it has had the advantage of watching market behaviour on the radar.

Basically, the cautionary words carried weight because of the convincing electoral mandate the Awami League received and the relative ease with which the BNP reconciled to its defeat, accepting the popular verdict. Normalcy got quickly established from the hang-ups of uncertain and stormy two-year-long caretaker governance.

Altogether, the smooth transition of power from an un-elected to an elected government did generate a sense of confidence across various sectors of the economy.

Awami League was quick to turn its attention to the urban and rural poor with a pragmatic realisation that any failure to provide food to hungry mouths was a sure-fire way of courting social tension. So, we have seen the introduction of well-targeted safety net programs by way of test relief, food for work, rural rationing and OMS sale to urban poor. The initial sale price of rice had to be scaled down from Tk 18 per kg to Tk 16 per kg to give a slender attractive edge over the ruling market price.

This brings us to the justified fear that the declining price of cereals could force the farmers to shy away from food production due to lack of remunerative prices in the market-place. Responding to such a concern, Agriculture Minister Matia Chowdhury assured the farmers of price support in the government's procurement drives, much the same way, she added, that the 1996-2001 AL government had done.

With the existing subsidy package looking large and that in prospect being equally so, the need for belt-tightening is very compelling indeed. Nevertheless, to put it mildly, if people were to read some negative signals in the big, rather prodigal, purchase of luxury cars for newly elected MPs and upazila chairmen would they be wrong? The previous batch of cars was of 2004-vintage. And, even if it is assumed that all of them are too ramshackle for use, could they not be replaced with a less costly variety?

It simply does not sit in with the government's otherwise robustly populist and inclusive series of economic policies.

By external dependence we have traditionally meant reliance on foreign aids, loans and grants, but now as our economy has had to navigate the rough waters of the knock-on of global economic meltdown, the externality of our dependence seems widespread, encompassing as it does foreign trade and migrant remittances.

In both the areas, we are having to face twin problems; fall in garment export volumes topped of by decreased earning from under-pricing and the steady trail of returnee Bangladesh employees from abroad. A word for the plight of returnee migrant Bangladeshi workers, which seems poignantly depicted through reported arrival of some corpses lately.

The finance minister's plan to garner funds through private-public participation, including contribution from NRBs, aimed at rehabilitating the returnee Bangladesh wage earners is a good idea that will, however, entail considerable institutional preparations to materialise. The government's public spending needs to be geared to employment creation and the best channel for doing so would be provided by the ADP.

On the closing day of the first 100 days, the finance minister has announced broad outlines of a bailout package for recession-hit export industries worth Tk 2,500-3,000 crore. The cash subsidy comes on the back of introducing banking facilities in the shape of lower interest rate, and loan rescheduling in six sectors for as many months.

A new window of opportunity can fling open on our garment products if we can negotiate duty-and quota-free (DFQF) access in the US market, an agenda that should be taken up energetically with the Obama administration.

Finally, we ought to join with other LDCs in a bid to persuade the WTO in securing a better bargain in their trade with the developed economies. If this is not the time for the WTO to take a role, then what is?



Mr. Shah Husain Imam is Associate Editor, The Daily Star.
 
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