Can anyone explain what happened in Karachi beach?

[VCheng]

How much info they had about the tectonic activities of that area is debatable...



I agree..But its like equating driving a car (you "may" get in an accident and die) vs riding your bike at full speed at a red light (coz the swimmers were warned) into a bus also driving at full speed ... or jumping into a burning building for no reason
--- not very comparable but there are somethings that one needs to use their brain for...

Similarly, the people who drowned at the beach had no idea about the sudden large waves that are known to crash in from the Arabian Sea on the beaches of Karachi. They were out there just to have a good time on Eid, and were not cognizant of the dangers. Blaming them achieves nothing IMO.

 

[Dubious]

Similarly, the people who drowned at the beach had no idea about the sudden large waves that are known to crash in from the Arabian Sea on the beaches of Karachi

Many are saying they were warned....before they ran into the beach of course....

Blaming them achieves nothing IMO.

Usually it is just anger...But I guess it is wise to use your brain (not you in particular but generally speaking) once in awhile otherwise it may become rusty?

 

[VCheng]

Many are saying they were warned....before they ran into the beach of course....



Usually it is just anger...But I guess it is wise to use your brain (not you in particular but generally speaking) once in awhile otherwise it may become rusty?

Not to generalize, but using the mind is not a known characteristic of Pakistanis in general, who tend to run more on emotion than logic.

 

[Dubious]

Not to generalize, but using the mind is not a known characteristic of Pakistanis in general, who tend to run more on emotion than logic.

well that is when the waves drown them ...hope some will learn a lesson from viewing such an incident RIP

 

[VCheng]

well that is when the waves drown them ...hope some will learn a lesson from viewing such an incident RIP

Such accidents with many lives lost happen with surprising regularity on the beaches of Karachi. You can search old records if you do not believe me. If there were any lessons to be learnt by the people, they would have been learnt by now. The only conclusion is that the people find the losses acceptable risks compared to the benefits obtained.

 

[Dubious]

benefits obtained.

which is?

 

[VCheng]

which is?

The joys of being at the beach, or in the ocean.

 

[cloud_9]

They were probably washed away by the rip current and without any knowledge they probably fell victim to it.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Not to generalize, but using the mind is not a known characteristic of Pakistanis in general, who tend to run more on emotion than logic.

Serious Thread that is why I don't want to laugh at your comment, but you are spot on at this regarding most Pakistanis, they use Emotional depth charge against few logical minds, can't win against them..

 

[VCheng]

Serious Thread that is why I don't want to laugh at your comment, but you are spot on at this regarding most Pakistanis, they use Emotional depth charge against few logical minds, can't win against them..

This is a serious thread, and my comment was not made in jest. Thank you for agreeing with it.

 

[Slav Defence]

First of all,
People lack knowledge about high tide and low tide phenomenon.
Second, since our civil government is aware of 'illiteracy' of public,therefore it is their responsibility to deploy police and team of swimmers in high tidal scenario to stop public in these areas or enforcing section 144 in case of high tides.
It is really sad to see that our government took action when 31[< or >] were drowned and payed the price.
Hence,massive awareness campaign must be supported by government with aim of empowering/acknowledging people with general information about high/low tides, safety measures etc.
I live in Karachi and been to seaview. I am well aware of majority public coming to different parts of village areas of Punjab,Baluchistan,Iskardu ,interior sindh etc.
Regards

 

[VCheng]

Tragedy in Karachi: Families still waiting on beach for missing relatives - Pakistan - DAWN.COM



By Shazia Hasan
Updated about 2 hours ago

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Relatives and friends of the Seaview tragedy victims form a human chain along the beach during a search operation on Friday.—Online​

KARACHI: With more than 32 bodies recovered from the sea, two families — one from Baldia Town and the other from Korangi — waited on Friday at the Clifton beach watching ambulances and other volunteer services in the hope of seeing the remains of their loved ones.
Two men from Baldia were inquiring if the Navy helicopter would return. “Our little nephew, 14-year-old Nasir, returned home on Eid night with two sets of clothes and pairs of shoes of his cousins, 20-year-old Mohammad Irfan and 17-year-old Mujib. He said they handed him their stuff before going for a dip in the sea. But he grew tired waiting for them and returned home after a couple of hours. That’s when we raised alarm,” said Mohammad Ayub.
Also read: 23 die in Karachi Eid beach tragedy
“They found Irfan’s body on Thursday evening but Mujib is still missing,” said Ataullah, the other cousin.
“The prayers for their lives have not been answered. We know they are gone but now we pray to God that at least let their bodies be found so that we can give them a decent burial,” wept a female cousin of 17-year-old Hamza, missing for three days when he and his other cousins in Korangi headed to the beach.
“Hamza was with his cousin, 19-year-old Sabir, whose body was recovered this morning, and 10-year-old little brother we lovingly call Munna at home. Munna is in shock after he was pushed out of harm’s way by Sabir before being caught in the strong currents himself.
“Munna watched his brother and cousin Sabir disappear before his eyes. He hasn’t spoken ever since. We buried Sabir soon after his body was recovered. Now we are waiting for these heartless waves to return us Hamza, too,” the veiled woman, who declined to give her name, told Dawn. She had with her an old childhood photograph of the boy still missing.
“It is all we could find in this emergency,” she said.
“We have been sitting here waiting for some miracle at first and now the inevitable for three days now,” she said quietly.
The skin of her hennaed hands and forehead were sunburnt due to sitting in the sun for too long. Noticing a reporter’s gaze on her hennaed hands she started weeping. “We were all so happy before Eid, buying new clothes and decorating our hands with henna designs. Who knew then that we would lose two young men in our family like this?” she cried.
“All these rescue workers and security agencies have been amazing after the accident. Wish they had been this efficient before it happened,” she said.
The woman was accompanied by Mustafa, brother of Sabir, who had been recovered. “My brother was six years older than me. He has been the family elder since our father passed away,” he said. “When they pulled his body out, it was so swollen with water and in such a bad shape that we couldn’t even recognise it. Then I noticed an old scar on his wrist to make the identification,” he said.
Outside the mortuary at the Jinnah Postgraduate Medical Centre, two volunteers of the Khidmat-i-Khalq Foundation said that the bodies being recovered at this point were in such a shape that even their family members were afraid to go near them. “We are also helping with the bathing and burial of the victims due to this,” said KKF operator Ijaz Siddiqui.
“Death by drowning is a horrific end to life. You have to understand that the body only comes up, floats and is washed ashore after ballooning up due to water absorption,” explained KKF operator Danish Abdul Qadir.
Published in Dawn, August 2nd, 2014

 

[Fracker]

Once i went to Clifton beach in Moonsoon Season. The waves were too strong. When i used to compare Karachi with UK Beaches I thought, UK beaches are extra ordinary where waves are too low. but now after watching waves of Oman. I think Karachi is extra ordinary, and waves in Karachi is way too strong. I remember even that day two three people died due to drown into the Sea. But Karachist are used to such treatment. Until unless your family member dies you don't take lesson. Which is usual case.

btw not only karachi, this year many people died in the rivers, where people were putting hands into the water and boat flipped. We (Pakistanis) are most careless nation. Which makes us thinking we are indestructible, until nature slap us back.

 

[VCheng]

Police probe into Karachi beach deaths holds city administration responsible - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Police probe into Karachi beach deaths holds city administration responsible

KARACHI: A police probe into the recent deaths of 34 swimmers at Karachi beaches pinned the responsibility of the incident on the city administration, DawnNews quoted sources as saying on Sunday.

A report presented by Additional Inspector General (AIG) Sindh police Ghulam Thebo to Inspector General (IG) Ghulam Hyder Jamali said the city administration had not imposed Section 144 when bathers had flocked to the sea, but had done so after reports of the deaths surfaced. For this reason, the police was not authorised to prevent people from going to the beach.

Sources quoting the report said that Section 144 — which bans the a gathering of more than four people at one place — had expired, whereas the city administration issues the notification for Section 144 when the tide is high.

The report also states that only three out of the 34 swimmers drowned at Hawkesbay beach, while the rest had drowned from a portion of Clifton beach situated behind Dolmen Mall, Clifton. The police report suggests that experts should investigate the nature of underwater trenches at Clifton beach to determine whether they were natural or man-made.

The IG of Sindh police will present the report during a session of the central committee today.

Eid celebrations in Karachi were marred by the deaths of 31 bathers who drowned while bathing in the sea at different points of Clifton and Hawksbay beaches.

Pakistan Navy helicopters were also used in the rescue operation.

IG Jamali had constituted an investigative committee which include AIG Sindh, to probe the incident.

Earlier experts had claimed that the high number of deaths by drowning may have occurred due to dredging activities carried out in the vicinity for the extension of port operations.