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thank you for your reply, i like the way you describe "curry power ", great that u said it yourself, we have a lot when it comes to soft power, world is Dancing to Bollywood tunes, 90% of take away food in England (London) is Indian food just some examples about soft power of India, even in Asian games this year it was Bollywood dance in Guangzhou, thats how soft power work.
 
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sure my friend its good to have investment in Africa, we are doing it, you are doing it, but the work culture matters
 
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dont say that my friend,Pakistan really hold some value and we should respect that. we need the Pipeline to go through Pakistan, that why all the cricket diplomacy.
 
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90% of take away food in England (London) is Indian food just some examples about soft power of India, even in Asian games this year it was Bollywood dance in Guangzhou, thats how soft power work.

lol yeah sure 90% of food (chinese, pizza, burger, fish&chips, thai``) deliveries are done by those indian motocyclists``:D but those indian rests in eastern london like bricklane and hackney are always empty so all the staffs have to be outside dragging people in (it is quite a scene)``lol..

and its even funnier a bollywood dance in a game and u assum its indian's softer power at its play?? lol then chinese must be super softpower as hollywood done so many Chinese action movies`:D
 
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India is the most powerful country(in every sense) in whole of South Asia and Middle East...while it shares the cake of Central Asia with Russia...name a country who can single handily defeat India in a war in this region.We are the largest or one of the largest trading partners of several of the nations in the region...
 
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lol yeah sure 90% of food (chinese, pizza, burger, fish&chips, thai``) deliveries are done by those indian motocyclists``:D but those indian rests in eastern london like bricklane and hackney are always empty so all the staffs have to be outside dragging people in (it is quite a scene)``lol..

and its even funnier a bollywood dance in a game and u assum its indian's softer power at its play?? lol then chinese must be super softpower as hollywood done so many Chinese action movies`:D
Has tht guy said anything abt China ?
India and china both are super soft powers coz we take our culture with us wherever we go . :D
 
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pakistan india per capita is almost equal.this is what now matter

if india has a good navy then pak has more warheads
indegenous ones choppers are only utility one as of yet

we do have ships

i dnt want to type anything more because if you will see my signature you will get all your answer

can u tell me what is pakistan's per capita income??????
 
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For those of you that underestimates India, keep in mind that it has a GDP of 1.6 trillion and a population of 1.1 billion as well as nuclear warhead. Its population is a huge advantage comparing to france, germany, japan, UK and even Russia while it's proven nuclear power status gives it an edge over japan and germany. Sure indian on average might not be as wealthy yet, but collectively, it is already a major power if you consider france, uk, germany, and japan to be one. (I certainly do consider those countries to be a major power) ...

As far as India goes, it is already the biggest regional power in South Asia and continues to growth at a fast rate. While I don't see it catching up to China anytime soon (at least the next 3 decades), it will be a very important player on the international stage....


Wrong!

After Industrial Revolution human labour size has never been the key factor in almost all fields. It's the quality (high tech knowledge, high average IQ - the ability enabling learning fast, shifting fast and inventing fast) that counts.

India's so called "1.3 billion ppl, 1.6 trillion economy, and a couple of Stone Age nuke heads " are not the symbol of any greatness, neither serving as ANY critirion of being "a very important player".


What was the population of that tiny island called England in the 19th century?

It didn't stop it from dominating the entire world. Some thousands of its army were enough to have Comfortably colonised entire "India" with 300mio strong.

Why? Answer: technologies + brains

Btw, City of London (Rothchilds) still controls the real engine of global finance even today with its diminishing hard money stacks (compared to China's), albeit behind the scene.

Why? Answer: technologies + brains


India's 1.6 trillion economy is nothing. Economy is a tricky subject, yet no science. The way of measuring the size of one's economy can be very non-scientific even today, unfortunately, and hence is misleading by either of both popular measures (PPP and nominal). India's size is in the same level of Spain, Russia, Australia's. How big is Spain? about 45 mio ppl ! Australia? 20mio plus only.

With a a small fraction of India's population and still fast growing at a higher base, Brazil has a 25% bigger economy than India, which still keeps "generating" a new population equivalent to entire Brazil's every 12 years!

The size of population is no measure in post modern power game whatsoever, but strenghth of it.

Rather, the population size and its growing size will serve as the last nail in the coffin of that artificial wierdo contruct - `India`.



Strenghth means high tech , which in turn implies the High Human Brain Power.

Take a closer look at India's economy and its tech:

1. The lion share of its "sevice sector" - aka call centres , back office outsoucing for the West, are LOW TECH in general.

(Growth can also mean nothing. Btw, if a "new born" little kid in India gets a haircut and makes an invoice of that, it'll count for its "service sector" growth of its GDP also. And if he gets 2 haricuts by accident and makes an invoice of those, technically it would count for 100% growth in this item in its sevice sector contributing GDP. what does that mean? Go figure! )


2. its Industry Sector - its industrial might is far below that of probably Turkey by just comparing its 1970's level quality (see the rear handwork) of its brand new national symbol LCA to the qualities of hardware that come out of Turkey's , let alone those of Brazil´s , production lines and you know. It´s like comparing Chicken Shi!t to Chicken Salad!

It can not even produce its own rifles and some of those standard bullets for Ivan´s sake. That speaks volumns.


3. its agriculture sector even can not feed its own, let alone earning export $$$ as it should be doing, since India has one of the largest and most fertile arable lands on Earth - bigger than that of China and Russia.

Heck, it can not even build a decent 1970s or earlier 1980s level standard warehouse to store its surplus and fast rottening wheat without the knowhow of a foreign supermarket chain such as Tesco... It still can't do it now and today as Tesco hasn´t signed any contract to operate in India yet. Go figure what does that mean to " a key player in international stage " ??


With crude heads towards possible $200/b , along going up all other commodities, where India gonna get oil amongst other key resocuces that are a must for sustaining, and growth? Answser: no where.

With its current inflations and population growth rate, India would collapse within 10 years if not even sooner.

The post WWII phase of turbo-charged global growing economy is about to end, and soon, mainly due to the constrain of the natural resources.

India is no where near in terms of technological howhow ( aka high quality human recources) and industrial developement ladder for even the second rate powers.

Get real! A tiny Austria could beat India in any day of a week in most categories.

Don´t look down on Austria. It produced even more international patents than India in 2010 !


"a key international player" ? yeah, key my ar$$ !


The Chinese need to grow some ambitions and visions, as if you tell that ""india a key international player" to the English ruling elites and technoheads(not its media-hugging politicians) and they would crack up in your face.


And don't even get me started with its Stone Age "nuke heads", if those could be qualified as nukes, duh!

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Wrong!

After Industrial Revolution human labour size has never been the key factor in almost all fields. It's the quality (high tech knowledge, high average IQ - the ability enabling learning fast, shifting fast and invent fast) that counts.

India's so called "1.3 billion ppl, 1.6 trillion economy, and a couple of Stone Age nuke heads " are not the symbol of any greatness, neither serving ANY critirion of being "a very important player".


What was the population of tiny island called England in the 19th century?

It didn't stop it from dominating the entire world. Thusands of its army was enough to have confortablely colonised entire "India" with 300mio.

Why? Answer: technologies + brains

Btw, City of London (Rothchilds) still controls the real engine of global finance even today with its diminishing hard money (compared to China's), albeit behind the scene.

Why? Answer: technologies + brains


India's 1.6 trillion economy is nothing. Economy is a tricky subject, yet no science. The way of measuring the size of one's economy can be very non-scientific even today, unfortunately, and hence misleading by either of both popular measures (PPP and nominal). India's size is in teh same level as Spain, Russia, Australia's. How big is Spain? <50 mio ppl ! Australia? 20mio + only.

With a a small fraction of India's population and still fast growing at higher base, Brazil has a 25% bigger economy than India, which "generates" a new population equivalent to entire Brazil's evey 12 years!

The size of population is no measure in post modern power game whatsoever, but strenghth of it.


Strenghth means high tech , which in turn implies the High Human Brain Power.



Take a closer look at India's economy and its tech:

1. The lion share of its "sevice sector" - aka call centres , back office outsoucing for the West, are LOW TECH in general.

(Btw, a if "new born" little kid in India gets a haircut and makes an invoice of that, it'll count for its "service sector" of its GDP also. And if he gets 2 haricuts by accident and makes an invoice of those, technically it would count for 100% growth in this item in its sevice sector. what does that mean? Go figure! )


2. its Industry Sector - its industrial might is far below that of probably Turkey by just comparing its 1970's level quality (see the rear handwork) of its brand new national symbol LCA to the qualities of hardware that come out of Turkey's , let alone those of Brazil´s , production lines and you know. It´s like comparing Chicken Shi!t to Chilcken Salad!

It can not even produce its own rifles and some of those standard bullets. That speaks volumns.


3. its agriculture sector even can not feed its own, let alone earning export $$$ as it should be doing since India has one of the largest and most fertile arable lands on Earth - bigger than that of China and Russia!

Heck, it can not even build a decent 1970s or earlier 1980s level standard warehouse to store its surplus and fast rottening wheat without the knowhow of a foreign supermarket chain such as Tesco... It still can't do it now and today as Tesco hasn´t signed any contract to operate in India yet. Go figure what does that mean to " a key player in international stage " ??


With crude heads towards possible $200/b , along going up all other commodities, where India gonna get oil amongst other key resocuces that are a must for sustaining, and growth? Answser: no where.

With its current inflations and population growth rate, India would collapse within 10 years if not even sooner.

The post WWII phase of turbo-charged global growing economy is about to end, and soon, mainly due to the constrain of the natural resources.

India is no where near in terms of techonological might ( aka high quality human recources) and industrial developement ladder for even the second rate powers.

Get real! A tiny Austria could beat India in any day of a week in most categories.


"a key international player" ? yeah, key my ar$$ !


The Chinese need to grow some ambitions and visions, as if you tell that ""india a key international player" to the English ruling elites and technoheads(not its media-hugging politicians) and they would crack up in your face.


And don't even get me started with its Stone Age "nuke heads", if those could be qualified as nukes, duh!

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good points, bit harsh but good points``i was always puzzled by those indian media hype that india is the brain behind modern brain and tech power house``but if u digged the real figure from world bank or international monetary statistics, the reality powned it easily`

for example, indian's High Technology exports were merely $6.8 billions in 2009 and a small cities like HongKong does more than that``

any the even funnier part that there is one indian video on youtube shows that india's economy is driven by innovation and technology but the chinese is driven by low-end manufacturing``

yet again the delusion is destroyed by the fact that China leads in High Technology exports at $380billion annually which is more than 60 TIMES of india's and also china ranked at 2nd in patent grants by international patent treaty cooperation (more than 10 times of india gets)
 
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Hahaha two nutheads banging their head as to who is the bigger nuthead :pop:
 
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Can a poor country be a great power?

It's like asking can a poor zebra be a great power in African wildlife?

Read this : NO!


A poor country can never be a great power.

If China is a great power, then China is not poor.


It's not maths where 2 is greater than 1 and 200 is greater than 3.

Bring on 200 zebras and 3 lions, and see who are greater?

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