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Cameron's inflammatory comments against Pakistan: I meant Pakistanis are terrorists..

Airlifting that kind of supplies would cost billions if not trillions.Stupidity has no limit.Why did US pay billions to Turkey for Iraq War?For supplies!Logistics are one hell of a problem for war.The only way i see US using alternate supply route for primary logistics is if Iran becomes pro American then America can use Iran's land route.
 
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ISI chief cancels UK visit
Updated at: 1554 PST, Friday, July 30, 2010
ISLAMABAD: ISI chief Lieutenant General Ahmed Shuja Pasha has cancelled his UK visit after Prime Minister David Cameron's remarks about Pakistan's role in war against terrorism, Geo News Reported.

ISI chief cancels UK visit - GEO.tv

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Pakistan Considered Canceling U.K. Visit

NEW DELHI—Pakistan considered canceling a state visit by President Asif Ali Zardari to the U.K. after Prime Minister David Cameron made remarks during a trip to India this week about Pakistan's role in sponsoring terrorism.

A senior Pakistani government official said Friday the government had come close to canceling but had decided to go ahead with the five-day visit, from Aug. 3, due to the "bigger issues involved," which include the long-term strategic relationship between the two countries.

A spokesman for the British High Commission in Islamabad, Pakistan's capital, said only that the visit was proceeding as scheduled. He denied local media reports that the U.K.'s High Commissioner had been summoned Thursday by Pakistan's government, saying the meeting had been arranged previously.

Mr. Cameron on Wednesday, during a state visit to India, said Pakistan couldn't "look both ways" in receiving billions of dollars in aid from Western nations while continuing to "promote the export of terror, whether to India or Afghanistan or anywhere else in the world."

On Thursday, Mr. Cameron stood by his remarks, despite complaints lodged by Pakistan's government. Mr. Cameron did note, however, that Pakistan's government is also engaged in a war against Taliban militants. Questions about Pakistan dominated a joint press conference between Mr. Cameron and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Thursday in New Delhi.

Global pressure on Pakistan to crack down on Islamist militant groups operating from its soil has mounted since the release last weekend by WikiLeaks, a document-publishing Internet site, of thousands of classified U.S. military papers about the war in Afghanistan.

Those documents detailed alleged links between Pakistan's military spy agency and the Taliban in Afghanistan between 2004 and 2009. Although many U.S. officials have said the documents are likely unreliable, politicians in India, the U.S. and the U.K. have seized on their contents to pressure Pakistan.

Pakistan's government has denied the contents of the documents. It has also pointed out that its army is fighting a war with Taliban extremists and has lost more than 2,000 soldiers in the past few years.

"One would have hoped that the British prime minister would have considered Pakistan's enormous role in the war on terror and the sacrifices it has made since 9/11," Wajid Shamsul Hasan, Pakistan's High Commissioner to London, wrote in the Guardian, a British newspaper, on Wednesday.

Mr. Hasan said he believed Mr. Cameron had based his comments on the WikiLeak documentation "despite it lacking credibility or corroborating proof."

Pakistan's spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence, has a long history of involvement with jihadi groups from the war in Afghanistan against the Soviet Union in the 1980s to the conflict against Indian troops in Kashmir in the 1990s.

Pakistan claims it has severed those links, including banning a number of militant groups in 2002 and fighting a war against the Taliban and its allies over the past two years.

The U.S., U.K. and India, among other nations, remain skeptical and the document publications this week have given them ammunition.

India claims it has given Pakistan proof of ISI involvement in the attacks on Mumbai by 10 Pakistani gunmen in 2008, which led to the deaths of more than 160 people. Pakistan denied ISI involvement.

India's Home Secretary G.K. Pillai made the claim publicly earlier this month on the eve of peace talks between the foreign ministers of the two nations. Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi later lashed out at Mr. Pillai for the comments at a joint news conference with his counterpart S.M. Krishna after the talks ended in acrimony.

At the news conference on Thursday with Mr. Cameron, Mr. Singh said Mr. Qureshi's comments had been unhelpful in pursuing peace between the two nations. Pakistan maintains Mr. Pillai's comments undermined the talks.

Cameron Comments Jeopardized Pakistan's U.K. Visit - WSJ.com
 
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Well these same kind of PMs and Presidents went to war and have killed and still are killing people based on false information, lies, which came out of their mouths and not from some fanboys.

So think about that side of their credibility also.

India was against it the war in iraq, coz may be we knew the truth, now they are just endorsing our view point. So we are more credible than them right. So if the world us/uk endorses our view point even when they are on the face not so critical about pakistan ,i think there is truth in our stand. So i think pakistan is trying to make the world dark by just closing their eyes.

And its unforunate pakistan is living in this continous deniel..!!!!
 
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Only if the west had taken a strong stand against such blatant open use of terrorism as a tool of foreign policy by Pakistan two decades ago, things would have been different, most markedly in Pakistan.

As the US and the west realise that they are being 'bled' in Afghanistan for the benefit of and with the implicit backing of china, they will be forced to make decisions in their own interest. As we all know, nothing works like self interest in international politics, except when it comes to using your own population as cannon fodder. Thats an exception.
 
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Are u really tht stupid?

Why would US jump into a war while its losing afghan war and has lost Iraq?can it just go and fight with a PROFESSIONAL IRANIAN ARMY? wont it get stuck and die?

And Genius KP doesnt even border Iran,Balouchistan does, safe heaven of terrorists is DELHI.

Damn ur intellect and BIG BRAIN:rofl:



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Btw, anyone notice that it's David Cameron who is on backfoot after his remarks, not Pakistan? He's the one having to defend himself, where's GoP is making aggressive remarks and actions such as cancelling ISI chief trip, maybe cancelling Zardari's trip, making aggressive statements against Cameron etc. Tells a lot really.
 
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And what if USA/Israel went into Iran.. Like it did to Iraq...And then you have the NWFP (the real safe havens of Terrorists) surrounded from all sides, with no dependence on Pakistan or any other country...

Invade Iran :what:, Karan i thought you were a senior member and one of the only Indian members i have high respect for. But lets not start wet dreaming, Iran is no Afghanistan or Iraq. US simply does not has the resources and the manpower to invade a country as big as Iran. Its not only FATA where the terrorists are based, majority have moved up their camps into Afghanistan because NATO simply does not has the manpower and will to take them head on. Have you ever wondered why the Taliban and Warlords affiliated with Taliban control more than 60% of Afghanistan, having control of Kabul does not mean you have the control of Afghanistan.
 
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Btw, anyone notice that it's David Cameron who is on backfoot after his remarks, not Pakistan? He's the one having to defend himself, where's GoP is making aggressive remarks and actions such as cancelling ISI chief trip, maybe cancelling Zardari's trip, making aggressive statements against Cameron etc. Tells a lot really.


Does it not make you feel that Pakistan will be loosing if these 2 people cancel their visit.
The visit was primarily for collecting donation,Right?
 
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Does it not make you feel that Pakistan will be loosing if these 2 people cancel their visit.
The visit was primarily for donation,Right?

Kutto they already cancelled their visit DG ISI was goin there for some confrence with MI6 and Zardari to meet mr camoron.
 
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Does it not make you feel that Pakistan will be loosing if these 2 people cancel their visit.
The visit was primarily for collecting donation,Right?
Those donation dont come free. They take much more from us. In sense of intellegence , and support

....We gave our blood in this war....And if someone think that he can call us terrorist then he is an IDIOT....
 
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Those donation dont come free.....We gave our blood in this war....And if someone think that he can call us terrorist and have the upper hand by just 3 billion dollars...>Then he is an IDIOT....

Will 4 Bil give them the leeway to call then?
 
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Those donation dont come free.....We gave our blood in this war....And if someone think that he can call us terrorist and have the upper hand by just 3 billion dollars...>Then he is an IDIOT....

Please don't give your blood for money. Have some respect for the lives of innocents lost. If Pakistan has nothing to gain, why is it part of WoT?
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Posted again for Ramu kaka who thanked karan on a foolish post tht represents both of there intellect:
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Originally Posted by Jackdaws
You are highly mistaken if you think American economy can't afford anything. Look at their budgets. The Americans could airlift supplies over Pakistan, they could supply Afghanistan through China by offering them some sops, they could supply them Uzbekistan, Tajikistan or Turkmenistan. American public can always be taken for a ride. Russia will do anything for money or some sort of guarantees which will massage their fragile egos.

Are u really tht stupid?

How can US use our airspace without our authority?and even if they only use our air space do u know the darn cost of such a project???
How long could US afford such a thing?

China doesnt even border afghanistan

Uzbekistan, Tajikistan or Turkmenistan all CARS are LAND LOCKED and nearest port will be Pakistani ports.

Russia?U should see the RT channel(russian television)!!

Quit makin urself look like a FOOL.


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Originally Posted by karan.1970
And what if USA/Israel went into Iran.. Like it did to Iraq...And then you have the NWFP (the real safe havens of Terrorists) surrounded from all sides, with no dependence on Pakistan or any other country...

Why would US jump into a war while its losing afghan war and has lost Iraq?can it just go and fight with a PROFESSIONAL IRANIAN ARMY? wont it get stuck and die?

And Genius KP doesnt even border Iran,Balouchistan does, safe heaven of terrorists is DELHI.

Damn ur intellect and BIG BRAIN
 
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