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British PM makes speech in Bangalore that comes close to endorsing the Indian government's view that the authorities in Pakistan have a hand in exporting terrorism

Nicholas Watt in Bangalore
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 28 July 2010 09.09 BST


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David Cameron gives a speech in Bangalore, India

David Cameron risked provoking a diplomatic row with Pakistan today when he came close to accusing Islamabad of exporting terrorism.

In a speech to Indian business leaders in Bangalore, the prime minister spoke of his horror when terrorists attacked Mumbai in 2008, for which Delhi blamed the Pakistani authorities.

Cameron said he had discussed the terror threat from Pakistan with the US president, Barack Obama last week. He will also discuss it tomorrow in Delhi with Manmohan Singh, the Indian prime minister.

He came near to endorsing India's view when he said: "We cannot tolerate in any sense the idea that this country is allowed to look both ways and is able, in any way, to promote the export of terror, whether to India or whether to Afghanistan or anywhere else in the world.

"That is why this relationship is important. It should be a relationship based on a very clear message: that it is not right to have any relationship with groups that are promoting terror. Democratic states that want to be part of the developed world cannot do that. The message to Pakistan from the US and the UK is very clear on that point."

Britain has spoken in the past of the terror threat that emerges from Pakistan. Gordon Brown said that a majority of terror threat to Britain emerged from the border areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

But the prime minister's language this morning suggested that he was coming close to endorsing the Indian view that the authorities in Pakistan have a hand in the terror. The leaked military documents from Afghanistan this week suggested that Pakistan's ISI has encouraged the Taliban.

The prime minister stood by his remarks when he appeared on Radio 4's Today programme this morning a few minutes after delivering his speech. "The point I was simply making in response to a question is we have to be clear in our dealings with the Pakistanis, as we are and as the Americans are, that it is unacceptable for any support to be given from within Pakistan for any terrorist organisations that export terror."

Asked whether Pakistan exports terrorism, Cameron said: "I choose my words very carefully, which is that it is unacceptable for anything to happen within Pakistan that is about supporting terrorism elsewhere.

"It is well documented that that has been the case in the past and it is an issue that we have to make sure that the Pakistan authorities are not looking two ways. They must only look one way and that is to a democratic and stable Pakistan that can have good relations with a democratic and stable Afghanistan."

Asked again whether there are elements in Pakistani intelligence that support terrorism, he said: "I have said what I've said. But to be fair there has been big progress in Pakistan in terms of targeting terror and terrorists in Pakistan."

The prime minister told his audience in India that Britain and India have been united in suffering from terrorism which originates in Pakistan.

"Five years ago, 52 people were killed on the tube and on a bus in London," Cameron said. "In November 2008, we watched in horror as terrorists went on the rampage in Mumbai, killing scores of Indians and three British nationals. As you know, we worked with your government in the investigation into these events. We remain determined that those responsible must be brought to justice.

"We – like you – are determined that groups like the Taliban, the Haqqani network or Lakshar e Taiba should not be allowed to launch attacks on Indian and British citizens in India or in Britain. Nor against our people, whether soldiers or civilians, from both our countries who are working for peace in Afghanistan."

A Downing Street spokeswoman said that the prime minister was not accusing the Pakistan government of exporting terrorism.

"The prime minister is not saying the Pakistan government is a sponsor of terrorism. But he is saying, and has said previously, that the Pakistan government needs to do more to shut terror groups down."

But No 10 declined to say whether other elements of the Pakistan state – the ISI service or the military – export terrorism. Cameron said in his Today programme interview that he was choosing his words carefully because Britain believes there is a distinction between the government of Pakistan and some state agencies.

Pakistan must not be allowed to promote export of terror, says David Cameron | World news | guardian.co.uk


David Cameron: Pakistan is promoting the ‘export of terror’
David Cameron has risked inflaming international relations after suggesting Pakistan is promoting the ‘export of terror’ in Afghanistan and around the world.
David Cameron: Pakistan is promoting the ‘export of terror’ - Telegraph
 
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dude no one gives a rats *** about what he says not even in Uk . he is just of a big status in india , because he will get more jobs there
 
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:P i guess he must be repeating the same speech till the point where he leaves Indian airspace
 
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This comming out of a PM has a lot more face-value than some fanboys on net ...think about it

Well these same kind of PMs and Presidents went to war and have killed and still are killing people based on false information, lies, which came out of their mouths and not from some fanboys.

So think about that side of their credibility also.
 
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OMG!? Why is he representing Britain??? Someone shut this fool up.
 
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What an ***, Pakistan should strongly protest.

American and even the newspapers who published the reports are more sensible and mature compared to the British PM.

Even the newspapers mentioned that the leaked reports were based on what kind of local sources and what could be their credibility, but as the words of British PM are music to the Indian ears, thus it is expected out of them even though they forget that what is the real purpose of such statements.

I wonder if he is so much sensible as per Indian members, how come he neglected the war crimes mentioning in those reports and the other stuff based on thousands of leaded reports.

A sane person can very well judge the statement from the PM to be for local consumption and other purposes.
 
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British PM makes speech in Bangalore that comes close to endorsing the Indian government's view that the authorities in Pakistan have a hand in exporting terrorism

Nicholas Watt in Bangalore
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 28 July 2010 09.09 BST


David-Cameron-gives-a-spe-006.jpg

David Cameron gives a speech in Bangalore, India

David Cameron risked provoking a diplomatic row with Pakistan today when he came close to accusing Islamabad of exporting terrorism.

In a speech to Indian business leaders in Bangalore, the prime minister spoke of his horror when terrorists attacked Mumbai in 2008, for which Delhi blamed the Pakistani authorities.

Cameron said he had discussed the terror threat from Pakistan with the US president, Barack Obama last week. He will also discuss it tomorrow in Delhi with Manmohan Singh, the Indian prime minister.

He came near to endorsing India's view when he said: "We cannot tolerate in any sense the idea that this country is allowed to look both ways and is able, in any way, to promote the export of terror, whether to India or whether to Afghanistan or anywhere else in the world.

"That is why this relationship is important. It should be a relationship based on a very clear message: that it is not right to have any relationship with groups that are promoting terror. Democratic states that want to be part of the developed world cannot do that. The message to Pakistan from the US and the UK is very clear on that point."

Britain has spoken in the past of the terror threat that emerges from Pakistan. Gordon Brown said that a majority of terror threat to Britain emerged from the border areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

But the prime minister's language this morning suggested that he was coming close to endorsing the Indian view that the authorities in Pakistan have a hand in the terror. The leaked military documents from Afghanistan this week suggested that Pakistan's ISI has encouraged the Taliban.

The prime minister stood by his remarks when he appeared on Radio 4's Today programme this morning a few minutes after delivering his speech. "The point I was simply making in response to a question is we have to be clear in our dealings with the Pakistanis, as we are and as the Americans are, that it is unacceptable for any support to be given from within Pakistan for any terrorist organisations that export terror."

Asked whether Pakistan exports terrorism, Cameron said: "I choose my words very carefully, which is that it is unacceptable for anything to happen within Pakistan that is about supporting terrorism elsewhere.

"It is well documented that that has been the case in the past and it is an issue that we have to make sure that the Pakistan authorities are not looking two ways. They must only look one way and that is to a democratic and stable Pakistan that can have good relations with a democratic and stable Afghanistan."

Asked again whether there are elements in Pakistani intelligence that support terrorism, he said: "I have said what I've said. But to be fair there has been big progress in Pakistan in terms of targeting terror and terrorists in Pakistan."

The prime minister told his audience in India that Britain and India have been united in suffering from terrorism which originates in Pakistan.

"Five years ago, 52 people were killed on the tube and on a bus in London," Cameron said. "In November 2008, we watched in horror as terrorists went on the rampage in Mumbai, killing scores of Indians and three British nationals. As you know, we worked with your government in the investigation into these events. We remain determined that those responsible must be brought to justice.

"We – like you – are determined that groups like the Taliban, the Haqqani network or Lakshar e Taiba should not be allowed to launch attacks on Indian and British citizens in India or in Britain. Nor against our people, whether soldiers or civilians, from both our countries who are working for peace in Afghanistan."

A Downing Street spokeswoman said that the prime minister was not accusing the Pakistan government of exporting terrorism.

"The prime minister is not saying the Pakistan government is a sponsor of terrorism. But he is saying, and has said previously, that the Pakistan government needs to do more to shut terror groups down."

But No 10 declined to say whether other elements of the Pakistan state – the ISI service or the military – export terrorism. Cameron said in his Today programme interview that he was choosing his words carefully because Britain believes there is a distinction between the government of Pakistan and some state agencies.

Pakistan must not be allowed to promote export of terror, says David Cameron | World news | guardian.co.uk


David Cameron: Pakistan is promoting the ‘export of terror’
David Cameron has risked inflaming international relations after suggesting Pakistan is promoting the ‘export of terror’ in Afghanistan and around the world.
David Cameron: Pakistan is promoting the ‘export of terror’ - Telegraph

Yes offcourse He is telling the truth cuz this is their job/right to export not us...:woot:
Pak cannot take their place in this regard..its impossible cuz we can't do insane stuff...
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:lol:
 
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American and even the newspapers who published the reports are more sensible and mature compared to the British PM.

Even the newspapers mentioned that the leaked reports were based on what kind of local sources and what could be their credibility, but as the words of British PM are music to the Indian ears, thus it is expected out of them even though they forget that what is the real purpose of such statements.

I wonder if he is so much sensible as per Indian members, how come he neglected the war crimes mentioning in those reports and the other stuff based on thousands of leaded reports.

A sane person can very well judge the statement from the PM to be for local consumption and other purposes.


I think its not the fault of UK PM as he was already briefed not to upset bhartis by mentioning atrocities of Indian terrorist army in occupied Kashmir and also do not mention Indian poverty.


So what else left for him to speak other than giving few anti-Pakistan statements to appease oldies in Indian establishment and millions of ignorant across the country
 
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