Cameron's inflammatory comments against Pakistan: I meant Pakistanis are terrorists..
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i guess he must be repeating the same speech till the point where he leaves Indian airspace
HE has to
He has to make a hypocrite dishonest, disloyal U-turn to the Pakistanis simply to warm up with the Indians.
He has no shame of the Pakistanis that gave their lives for us English folks to live in Freedom in the UK. Fighting against terrorism whereever
He has to be a racist just like them because INdia hates him after his speach he made about Churchill and we all know that Churchil was never going to give an Indepentant India.
You know people here will you use this against him in his next election and puesude British-pakistanis to vote him out.
The Bigot !
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Pakistan cannot play both sides forever
David Cameron was right to take the country to task for its role in terrorism, argues Michael Burleigh.
by Michael Burleigh
Published: 7:53PM BST 28 Jul 2010
The Wikileaks revelations about murderous collusion between Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency and the Afghan Taliban have underlined the central role that country plays in the sponsorship of terrorism. This is despite the US disbursing $1 billion a year to enable the Pakistanis to fight it. In this respect, it would seem that enemies like Iran or Syria are a secondary problem.
And the collusion goes far beyond corrupt and dozy Pakistani border guards turning a blind eye to the Taliban launching cross-border raids on coalition troops in Afghanistan. It also means ISI involvement in planning the insurgents' operations, as well as even more murky links alleged between ISI figures and mysterious "Arabs". That's the preferred synonym, by the way, for members of al-Qaeda, who are embedded with the Haqqani and Hekmatyar networks, which the ISI once sponsored to fight the Soviet invasion.
Let's not forget, too, that Pakistani weddings seem to be the preferred excuse for British jihadists as well as for the likes of would-be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad to visit the many terrorist training camps there.
Although Pakistani collusion with terrorists is a deplorable fact of life for Western forces fighting the Afghan Taliban, we have a simultaneous dependence on Pakistan's tacit collusion in aerial drone strikes on al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders. This has ensured that it was David Cameron, speaking in Bangalore on his trip to India, who criticised Pakistan's "export of terror", rather than Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. He was right to do so.
Pakistan is the world's most dangerous source of international terrorism, responsible for 70 per cent of conspiracies to bring murder and mayhem to Britain, not forgetting serial atrocities perpetrated in India. Whereas Saudi Arabia has finally got a grip on its indigenous jihadists (after blithely allowing them to slaughter people elsewhere), Pakistan's weak democracy and powerful military within which the ISI nestles like a parasite seem powerless to grip a problem which threatens not only its neighbours, but through a large diaspora, Western domestic security, too.
The conventional wisdom is that this problem only dates back to the 1980s, when the ISI was co‑opted into a broader Western (and Saudi) campaign to encourage Islamic resistance against the atheist Soviets in Afghanistan. That idea enables many Leftists to spout cheap theories that the CIA was responsible for creating al‑Qaeda, a movement whose origins in fact lie in the domestic politics of Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Others, such as the Indian journalist Sadand Dhume, argue that the problem stems from Pakistan having Islam inscribed in its identity, from the green crescent flag to former prime minister Zulfikar Bhutto's advertisement of "an Islamic Bomb". Pan-Islamism is in the country's DNA, they argue, in ways that are simply not true of other Muslim states such as Indonesia, Morocco, Tunisia or Turkey. Without Islam, the self-styled "Land of the Pure" is an unjustifiable congeries of regions cobbled from the wreckage Mountbatten left in British India.
Whatever the truth, Pakistan is host to a bewildering array of terrorist movements. They include Baluchi and Punjabi separatists, Kashmiri irredentists (who would like to annex Indian Kashmir); the Afghan Taliban, whose leadership around Mullah Omar is believed to be in Quetta; remnant al-Qaeda, presumed to be in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas; and the Pakistani Taliban, whose intention is to convert Pakistan into a strictly Islamist state.
The Pakistani state has consistently indulged those groups which ostensibly conform to its strategic interests, notably in Afghanistan and Kashmir. The familiar excuse is that these are "freedom fighters" rather than terrorists. That is why although Lashkar-e-Taiba is widely known to have been responsible for the atrocity in Mumbai, it continues to operate inside Pakistan, allegedly as a religious charitable organisation, while sundry terrorists have either escaped from custody or dodged the executioner after being convicted. The perceived closeness to India of the Karzai regime in Kabul explains the favour Pakistan shows towards the Afghan Taliban. This is partly a reflection of Pashtun solidarity, but also of a longer-term aim of strengthening its defences for any major confrontation with India.
One imagines that the spooks of the ISI thought they were being outrageously Machiavellian in their multiple dealings with terrorists they construed as freedom fighters. They would not be alone. Of course, terrorism has had a baleful impact on Pakistan itself. While from 2003 to 2008, some 13,185 Pakistanis were killed by terrorists, the figure for 2009 was 11,585, victims of 723 major incidents. The state itself has come under direct attack, including the murder of Benazir Bhutto in December 2007 and an assault on the army headquarters in Rawalpindi after the military belatedly acted against indigenous Taliban with selective rigour.
Two questions present themselves. Are enough conditions being attached to that $1 billion a year that the West disburses on Islamabad? And what contingency planning is there should the feeble, nuclear-armed, Pakistani state succumb to the incubuses its own elites have played such a deplorable role in creating?
Michael Burleigh is the author of 'Blood and Rage: A Cultural History of Terrorism'
Pakistan cannot play both sides forever
David Cameron was right to take the country to task for its role in terrorism, argues Michael Burleigh.
by Michael Burleigh
Published: 7:53PM BST 28 Jul 2010
The Wikileaks revelations about murderous collusion between Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency and the Afghan Taliban have underlined the central role that country plays in the sponsorship of terrorism. This is despite the US disbursing $1 billion a year to enable the Pakistanis to fight it. In this respect, it would seem that enemies like Iran or Syria are a secondary problem.
And the collusion goes far beyond corrupt and dozy Pakistani border guards turning a blind eye to the Taliban launching cross-border raids on coalition troops in Afghanistan. It also means ISI involvement in planning the insurgents' operations, as well as even more murky links alleged between ISI figures and mysterious "Arabs". That's the preferred synonym, by the way, for members of al-Qaeda, who are embedded with the Haqqani and Hekmatyar networks, which the ISI once sponsored to fight the Soviet invasion.
Let's not forget, too, that Pakistani weddings seem to be the preferred excuse for British jihadists as well as for the likes of would-be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad to visit the many terrorist training camps there.
Although Pakistani collusion with terrorists is a deplorable fact of life for Western forces fighting the Afghan Taliban, we have a simultaneous dependence on Pakistan's tacit collusion in aerial drone strikes on al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders. This has ensured that it was David Cameron, speaking in Bangalore on his trip to India, who criticised Pakistan's "export of terror", rather than Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. He was right to do so.
Pakistan is the world's most dangerous source of international terrorism, responsible for 70 per cent of conspiracies to bring murder and mayhem to Britain, not forgetting serial atrocities perpetrated in India. Whereas Saudi Arabia has finally got a grip on its indigenous jihadists (after blithely allowing them to slaughter people elsewhere), Pakistan's weak democracy and powerful military within which the ISI nestles like a parasite seem powerless to grip a problem which threatens not only its neighbours, but through a large diaspora, Western domestic security, too.
The conventional wisdom is that this problem only dates back to the 1980s, when the ISI was co‑opted into a broader Western (and Saudi) campaign to encourage Islamic resistance against the atheist Soviets in Afghanistan. That idea enables many Leftists to spout cheap theories that the CIA was responsible for creating al‑Qaeda, a movement whose origins in fact lie in the domestic politics of Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Others, such as the Indian journalist Sadand Dhume, argue that the problem stems from Pakistan having Islam inscribed in its identity, from the green crescent flag to former prime minister Zulfikar Bhutto's advertisement of "an Islamic Bomb". Pan-Islamism is in the country's DNA, they argue, in ways that are simply not true of other Muslim states such as Indonesia, Morocco, Tunisia or Turkey. Without Islam, the self-styled "Land of the Pure" is an unjustifiable congeries of regions cobbled from the wreckage Mountbatten left in British India.
Whatever the truth, Pakistan is host to a bewildering array of terrorist movements. They include Baluchi and Punjabi separatists, Kashmiri irredentists (who would like to annex Indian Kashmir); the Afghan Taliban, whose leadership around Mullah Omar is believed to be in Quetta; remnant al-Qaeda, presumed to be in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas; and the Pakistani Taliban, whose intention is to convert Pakistan into a strictly Islamist state.
The Pakistani state has consistently indulged those groups which ostensibly conform to its strategic interests, notably in Afghanistan and Kashmir. The familiar excuse is that these are "freedom fighters" rather than terrorists. That is why although Lashkar-e-Taiba is widely known to have been responsible for the atrocity in Mumbai, it continues to operate inside Pakistan, allegedly as a religious charitable organisation, while sundry terrorists have either escaped from custody or dodged the executioner after being convicted. The perceived closeness to India of the Karzai regime in Kabul explains the favour Pakistan shows towards the Afghan Taliban. This is partly a reflection of Pashtun solidarity, but also of a longer-term aim of strengthening its defences for any major confrontation with India.
One imagines that the spooks of the ISI thought they were being outrageously Machiavellian in their multiple dealings with terrorists they construed as freedom fighters. They would not be alone. Of course, terrorism has had a baleful impact on Pakistan itself. While from 2003 to 2008, some 13,185 Pakistanis were killed by terrorists, the figure for 2009 was 11,585, victims of 723 major incidents. The state itself has come under direct attack, including the murder of Benazir Bhutto in December 2007 and an assault on the army headquarters in Rawalpindi after the military belatedly acted against indigenous Taliban with selective rigour.
Two questions present themselves. Are enough conditions being attached to that $1 billion a year that the West disburses on Islamabad? And what contingency planning is there should the feeble, nuclear-armed, Pakistani state succumb to the incubuses its own elites have played such a deplorable role in creating?
Michael Burleigh is the author of 'Blood and Rage: A Cultural History of Terrorism'
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UK 'terror' warning angers Pakistan
Remarks by David Cameron, the British prime minister, that Islamabad should not "promote the export of terror" have angered Pakistani officials.
Cameron made the comments on Wednesday during a visit to promote increased trade with India, which has tense relations with neighbouring Pakistan.
"We cannot tolerate in any sense the idea that this country [Pakistan] is allowed to look both ways and is able, in any way, to promote the export of terror, whether to India or whether to Afghanistan or anywhere else in the world," Cameron said in Bangalore.
The comments were likely welcomed in India, which has accused Pakistani intelligence officials of harbouring and abetting groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, which India has blamed the 2008 attacks in the city Mumbai.
'Sharp reaction'
But Pakistan was swift to condemn the comments, accusing the UK of "kicking their own friends".
Wajid Shamsul Hasan, Pakistan's high commissioner in London, told Al Jazeera that he had received hundreds of calls from Pakistanis, who offered "a very sharp reaction" to Cameron's comments.
"I think Cameron will review his statement, clarify his position, because we need to be supported not criticised for what we are doing," Hasan said.
Cameron's comments came after WikiLeaks, the whistle blower website, leaked US government documents accusing Pakistan's security services, the ISI, of collaborating with the Taliban and other groups operating in Afghanistan.
"We should be very, very clear with Pakistan that we want to see a strong, stable and democratic Pakistan," Cameron said.
"It should be a relationship based on a very clear message: that it is not right to have any relationship with groups that are promoting terror."
'Untrue claims'
But Hasan condemned the claims made in the leaked US documents, calling them "untrue" and saying "they have not given us any solid evidence".
"ISI was one of the conduits used by the CIA and other agencies to raise these Taliban, these mujahidin, to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. Only [the] ISI can't be blamed for it," he said.
Vikas Pota, a political analyst in London, told Al Jazeera that Cameron's speech will be good for business, the primary purpose of his visit to India.
"By making the speech that he did [Indian prime minister Manmohan] Singh will welcome him [Cameron] with open arms" when they meet in New Delhi, Potas said.
Bilateral trade between Indian and Britain was worth than $13bn last year.
Cameron hopes to increase that number with a series of defence deals, as he tours India with a large delegation of British business and political leaders.
UK 'terror' warning angers Pakistan - CENTRAL/S. ASIA - Al Jazeera English
Remarks by David Cameron, the British prime minister, that Islamabad should not "promote the export of terror" have angered Pakistani officials.
Cameron made the comments on Wednesday during a visit to promote increased trade with India, which has tense relations with neighbouring Pakistan.
"We cannot tolerate in any sense the idea that this country [Pakistan] is allowed to look both ways and is able, in any way, to promote the export of terror, whether to India or whether to Afghanistan or anywhere else in the world," Cameron said in Bangalore.
The comments were likely welcomed in India, which has accused Pakistani intelligence officials of harbouring and abetting groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, which India has blamed the 2008 attacks in the city Mumbai.
'Sharp reaction'
But Pakistan was swift to condemn the comments, accusing the UK of "kicking their own friends".
Wajid Shamsul Hasan, Pakistan's high commissioner in London, told Al Jazeera that he had received hundreds of calls from Pakistanis, who offered "a very sharp reaction" to Cameron's comments.
"I think Cameron will review his statement, clarify his position, because we need to be supported not criticised for what we are doing," Hasan said.
Cameron's comments came after WikiLeaks, the whistle blower website, leaked US government documents accusing Pakistan's security services, the ISI, of collaborating with the Taliban and other groups operating in Afghanistan.
"We should be very, very clear with Pakistan that we want to see a strong, stable and democratic Pakistan," Cameron said.
"It should be a relationship based on a very clear message: that it is not right to have any relationship with groups that are promoting terror."
'Untrue claims'
But Hasan condemned the claims made in the leaked US documents, calling them "untrue" and saying "they have not given us any solid evidence".
"ISI was one of the conduits used by the CIA and other agencies to raise these Taliban, these mujahidin, to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. Only [the] ISI can't be blamed for it," he said.
Vikas Pota, a political analyst in London, told Al Jazeera that Cameron's speech will be good for business, the primary purpose of his visit to India.
"By making the speech that he did [Indian prime minister Manmohan] Singh will welcome him [Cameron] with open arms" when they meet in New Delhi, Potas said.
Bilateral trade between Indian and Britain was worth than $13bn last year.
Cameron hopes to increase that number with a series of defence deals, as he tours India with a large delegation of British business and political leaders.
UK 'terror' warning angers Pakistan - CENTRAL/S. ASIA - Al Jazeera English
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As seen in the above Picture - Camron is not interested in Indians but in India and Its Economy.
He made this statement to get Indians on his side and give his Economically underpowered country the much needed Indian Business.
Camron seems to be quite a clever leader, here are some of his statements in other countries.
UK is a "Junior partner" of US : During his Visit to US.
Business gained for BP in Libya.
Turkey should be allowed in EU: During his visit to Turkey
Israel has Turned gaza into a Prison camp: During his visit to Turkey
* Business gained from Turkey and Turkish support.
Pakistan must not be allowed to Export Terror : During his visit to india
* Largest British business delegation to India in History - gained Business for UK in India , BAE Hawk Deal reached.
* Now what is common about these statements is that he hasn't forgotten the British interests in any of his statements and all of them have made money for UK's shaken economy.
But what Mr clever forgot is that Pakistan is the King Maker in the WOT game - we have the key to the Exit door - its up to mr camron if he wants the door open that his troops can get out by 2015 as his second in charge Nick has been saying or he wants their Coffins to keep flying out of Kandahar.
He made this statement to get Indians on his side and give his Economically underpowered country the much needed Indian Business.
Camron seems to be quite a clever leader, here are some of his statements in other countries.
UK is a "Junior partner" of US : During his Visit to US.
Business gained for BP in Libya.
Turkey should be allowed in EU: During his visit to Turkey
Israel has Turned gaza into a Prison camp: During his visit to Turkey
* Business gained from Turkey and Turkish support.
Pakistan must not be allowed to Export Terror : During his visit to india
* Largest British business delegation to India in History - gained Business for UK in India , BAE Hawk Deal reached.
* Now what is common about these statements is that he hasn't forgotten the British interests in any of his statements and all of them have made money for UK's shaken economy.
But what Mr clever forgot is that Pakistan is the King Maker in the WOT game - we have the key to the Exit door - its up to mr camron if he wants the door open that his troops can get out by 2015 as his second in charge Nick has been saying or he wants their Coffins to keep flying out of Kandahar.
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Selling his products, cheap marketer often do that, at the end of day Pakistan brushes off UK's comments, we've dealing with americans, I've noticed Pakistan does not give a fk about UK.
Perhaps he wants attention.
Perhaps he wants attention.
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UK itself is the Biggest Terrorist around - is there any place on the face of this Planet they haven't Invaded ?
What where they doing in Iraq , and why did they attacked it - because of their stupid Intel reports ??
Camron must get his head straight before blaming anyone for anything .
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he's been kissing india's *** too much. its like he is upto some thing 
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To gain that business they exported terrorist back to Libya from their jail , business is the key , Oh God give Pakistan oil too
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He is just trying to get Indian Establishment Drunk by his statements while he secures Business for British Firms in India.
Good going camron-
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he's been kissing india's *** too much. its like he is upto some thing
He just needs Money - because if there is no money then there is no honey for his party in UK.
Think about this:
They Let go a "Charged" Terrorist for securing an oil contract for British Petroleum in Libya
For the sake of oil , everything even terrorists are forgiven and he was clever enough that he convinced Yankeez by his well groomed "British diplomacy"
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Hmmm...We have face reading experts here too !
King Maker indeed ! Pakistan is at the receiving end of all the machinations Zia did to stay in power and the double game he played.
Having dealt itself lousy cards it is now stuck with a bad hand. The sooner it accepts this fact the sooner it will extricate itself from the hole it appears to have dug itself into.
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As seen in the Picture - the lady (Dont know who she is) is keen to get her photo taken with the Farangi PM but Mr Farangi is looking somewhere else , maybe thinking of the strategy his Ancestors implemented through the East India company to take hold of the Indian Economy.
Time will tell bud - just sit tight
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