I would say deport the afghans who r eating up our resources, bringing crime hatred, terrorism and stupid ideas about pashtunistan and balochistan and are always ungrateful to us! A recent report says that there r 4000 afghans in waziristan fighting against us.
It would be silly to bury the proverbial head in the sand and claim only Afghanis are fighting Pak Army in Waziristan. Pakistanis are fighting Pakistan's Army, and it should be admitted. The reason is that in that particular area, they are independent and like to rule themselves, as they always have done.
I don't believe one could say that the Afghanis are the ones bringing in the ideas of Pashtunistan, Balochistan, etc, or that they're all terrorists, criminals etc - too generalized, as for resources, they live in camps generally, and are fed by the UN. The important difference is that they do want to go back to Afghanistan (when the war is over), the Biharis do want to live in Pakistan. So one needs to cater for this.
And why the bengalis??? We did wrong with them and theres no point denying. Bhutto was a son of a ***** and we all know that.
Personally I don't think Bhutto (elder) was that bad, though i disagree with his nationalization policies. But if you do not understand anything from my post, do try and understand this.
West Pakistan did not wrong any Bengali, if you believe it did, provide me one piece of concrete proof that they were singled out for victimization and I will believe you. If anything, Bengal wronged West Pakistan, one example was that they knew perfectly well, under the 1946 election manifesto that Urdu was to be the national language of Pakistan, yet, after the Quaid passed away (and he told them that Urdu was to be the National Language), they rioted until their demands were met. I would like to see evidence of wrong-doing by Pakistan, and not just cut and paste jobs, but your own comments.
55% of population was in bangladesh & was supporting Mujib. We shud have just accepted him but ofcourse bhutto was a powerhungry retard who would kill anyone who came in his way and Yahya acted like a **** as well. Now is that the Bengalis fault?
Do read the threads on East Pakistan. It saves me repeating it here.
Both Bhutto and Yahya Khan ACCEPTED Mujib as prime minister, under condition that he dropped the demand to fragment Pakistan into 5 separate states. You claim to want to unite Pakistan, yet you support Mujib, a man who wanted to fragment Pakistan. There's no logic to this. But get this out of your head that Mujib was denied the leadership because he was Bengali. He was denied the leadership because he wanted to fragment Pakistan into different units. Do you support fragmentation of Pakistan?
Comeon think how it would be if we were still together! Man he was meant to be prime minister so why we west paks did not protest the decision and protest? And if this was the way of doing things then i wud be out with the gun to shoot Zardari and bilawal and saying I want a prime minister of my choice.
Read above. It was his 6 point plan for autonomy that was the reason for West Pakistan not accepting him. Let me ask you. Would you support a party that wanted to split Pakistan into Punjab, Sindh, NWFP, and Balochistan countries? If yes, then I agree with you, if no, then you are wrong, and have not thought this through.
Please understand deporting bengalis will result in destruction of good relations being built up between our communities. I have been to bangladesh and treated with utter respect. Proves Bangladeshis have nothing against us anymore.
This may or may not be true, but once you get inside Dhakka, do go to the National War Museum, and do tell people that the 3 million figure is bogus. Then see how they treat you. Just because they smile at you, does not mean they are of the belief you would be callous enough to rape and murder them on the basis of their ethnicity.
India was worst experiance in life and i will regret being an Indian f4 sum time. I have even lost a cousin there to Indian madness recently. Then is afghanistan.
Too broad a generalization. Indians can be Muslim, some Indians are nice people.
Afghans hate us and 40-48% of their population is pashtun. The pashtuns r worse than normal afghans because they do not accept the creation of Pakistan.
Way to broad a generalization. Pashtun nationalism in Afghanistan is very low, it's generally confined to some politicians, the ordinary people don't care about such things, they do care about the basic necessities, such as feeding their families and so on. It is not in the interests of most Afghan Pashtuns to have NWFP join with them. It is better for it to remain separate and the Durand Line to be ignored.
Pashtuns have crazy ideas about Pashtunistan and want to break Pakistan into pieces in any possible way. Check stupid videos on youtube and you'll know!
Just because you see something on youtube does not make it genuine. An Indian might be responsible for such, or a Tajik Afghan. There really is very little evidence to base such a broad generalization on. Use logic for reason, not youtube for evidence.
I have been to Sharan and Kabul also. Trust me my Pakistani freinds militia responsible for a ministers defence in Sharan was attacked there by angry afghans shouting "death to Pakistan" in 2005 border clashes. My freind himself was wounded.
Again, this is just your word I have to go on. If Afghan Pashtuns held such hostility towards Pakistan, they would not be trading daily in Pakistan, and they would have ripped Pakistan in half by now. All the bombings being done currently are miniscule compared to what could be happening, if there was such hostility as you claim to Pakistan, in Afghanistan.
Anyway guess what 85% of Afghan refugees in Pakistan are Pashtuns. They have been bringing stupid ideas of pashtunistan in the name of punjabi oppression ignoring pashtuns of Pakistan are richest community out of other 3 provinces, make 30% of our armed forces are about 17% of our population and are heavily represented in government, sports etc etc.
Well that's a lie, no other way around it. Pashtun refugees in Pakistan hardly have a voice. If Pashtuns in Pakistan are claiming oppression, it's definitely not the refugees. Some Pashtuns perhaps are quite rich in Pakistan, but NWFP definitely isn't very rich.
Now why are we not kicking these people out rather than talking about Bengalis who have no problem with us?
The Bengalis do have a problem with Pakistan. Just go and look at their celebrated war museums, claiming that Pakistan genocided them. How is this truth? Is it friendly to make up lies to tarnish the name of an friend?
No way
Afghan refugee population is much higher than the total Bihari population! Afghan refugees are in millions but Bihari ones are barely 250000. Other than that there r some on our own land we actually accepted but haven't given citizenship yet! Can u believe that???
I couldnt comment, as i'm not sure about the land thing. But as Pashtuns, I guess that NWFP is always a homeland for Pashtuns whereever they are. Bihar is the homeland for Biharis, and Bengal is the homeland for Bengalis. So that might be the reason Afghan Pashtuns are more readily accepted.
Though I do agree that Biharis should be accepted into West Pakistan, though an equal number of Bengalis should be deported.
Home - Stranded Pakistanis, Biharis, Stateless in Bangladesh and Pakistan
As far as biharis go WE MUST ACCEPT THEM AND DO JUSTICE TO THEM FOR THEIR LOYALTY TO PAKISTAN. But actually Bangladesh has started giving nationality to second generation biharis... so i dunno if we can do that now... But we shud be embaressed though. This is what Jinnah said about them:
Bangladesh lets the Biharis live in squalor. I don't think what you posted here that Bangladesh "starting" to give Biharis citizenship is a true representation. Perhaps 10 Biharis were given citizenship rights, thousands of others have been denied the right to vote in Bangladesh. Here is the link to the 10.
BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Vote for 'stranded Pakistanis'
The thousands of Biharis in Pakistan (West) have full voting rights. Who is wronging who here? There is much blind ignorance in what you say, very little neutrality.
http://www.statelesspeopleinbanglad...spaper_reports/MoslemOfficialsPressDemand.pdf
And how that idiot Zulfiqar betrayed them. alas! If anyone says anything good about any Bhutto family it is really like having ur mother raped in front of you. Zia Ul Haq made a major mistake by leaving his daughter alone. Terrorists made mistake of leaving her entire family alone.
The elder Bhutto was better than Zia-Ul-Haq. Some of his (Bhutto's) policies weren't good though imo.
