BYD Continues to Outpaces Tesla !!

[avenuepark57]

Is The New Nexon EV Max The Game Changer That Tata Motors Needs To Fuel India's EV Transformation? - Forbes India

India's third-largest carmaker commands 96 percent of the country's electric car market. With its first-mover advantage, it is only likely to benefit once the momentum gathers pace and investments pour in

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Tata Motors bags India’s biggest EV fleet order from cab company BluSmart | Business Insider India

Automobile giant Tata Motors has bagged India’s biggest electric vehicle (EV) fleet order of 10,000 vehicles from BluSmart Electric Mobility. As a part of the agreement, Tata Motors will deliver 10,000 XPRES T EVs to this Deepika Padukone-backed all-electric cab service company. BluSmart...

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Tata Motors to strengthen R&D, enhance expertise in EV battery packs

Tata Motors will also collaborate with other group entities, including Jaguar Land Rover in order to enhance its capabilities.

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Tata Motors expects 20% of PV sales from EVs in 4-5 years, eyes mature global markets too - ET Auto

The EV industry players across the world are in a learning phase. In the software-intensive EV technology, Tata Motors sees good opportunity for India..

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Do you guys even know why china is so much scared of nano diamond batteries?
It'll reduce the dependence on lithium-ion batteries where Chinese have significant dominance globally. But the recent headlines of fire on cargo ships carrying Porsche & Audi cars have questioned about its reliability
diamond cells produce electricity in the presence of a radioactive field...
Such batteries are called Batavoltaque batteries...According to Professor Tom Scott, diamond batteries may generate microwatt power, but due to the radioactive carbon 14 in them, they live for 10 to 20 years..
Professor believes that microwatt produced from the Betavoltaic battery can power IoT devices and other devices.
Radioactive graphite forming from the nucleus wastes carries carbon 14 nucleus...These radioactive elements in the presence of Beta decay carries nitrogen 14 nucleus, anti neutrino & electron...
And these Beta electrons are a major source of electricity

 

[Daniel808]

Is The New Nexon EV Max The Game Changer That Tata Motors Needs To Fuel India's EV Transformation? - Forbes India

India's third-largest carmaker commands 96 percent of the country's electric car market. With its first-mover advantage, it is only likely to benefit once the momentum gathers pace and investments pour in

www.google.com

Tata Motors bags India’s biggest EV fleet order from cab company BluSmart | Business Insider India

Automobile giant Tata Motors has bagged India’s biggest electric vehicle (EV) fleet order of 10,000 vehicles from BluSmart Electric Mobility. As a part of the agreement, Tata Motors will deliver 10,000 XPRES T EVs to this Deepika Padukone-backed all-electric cab service company. BluSmart...

www.google.com

Tata Motors to strengthen R&D, enhance expertise in EV battery packs

Tata Motors will also collaborate with other group entities, including Jaguar Land Rover in order to enhance its capabilities.

www.google.com

Tata Motors expects 20% of PV sales from EVs in 4-5 years, eyes mature global markets too - ET Auto

The EV industry players across the world are in a learning phase. In the software-intensive EV technology, Tata Motors sees good opportunity for India..

www.google.com

Please Stop immediately

This thread is not for that crap

 

[Chat SAMOSA]

Battery and Electric Motor System is the Heart & Soul of an EV

That’s a pride for BYD to make tesla begging for their Battery & Electric Motor System

You have a lot more to learn then about innovation.

 

[Beast]

I know and not surprised. It is a battery company and supplying to Tesla is a honor

And EV battery is some high tech and crucial component of it.

 

[Chat SAMOSA]

And EV battery is some high tech and crucial component of it.

Indeed it is

 

[Beast]

You have a lot more to learn then about innovation.

Innovation is useless if cannot put into commercial business in large scale. There are plenty of so called innovation battery technology out there but when comes to commercialize and mass produced. Only BYD blade battery made it. Ion phosphate battery reduced defendant on more rare mineral like cobalt, nickel and is a big reason why EV battery prices are going down. Making EV competitive in prices to combustion petrol car while without sacrifice performance and range.

New 'Blade Battery' from China's BYD is Cheaper & Safer, is it the Future of Electric Vehicles? - News18

BYD’s “blade battery” is cheaper and safer than many EV batteries being used today as it does not make use of costly cobalt and is instead, a type of lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery.

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Even Toyota so called solid state battery can only hit market, earliest by 2025. Worst of all, it is extremely expensive and therefore available on PHEV first as cost will not increase too much due to small battery needed. By then, most of the commercial EV maybe using BYD blade battery already.

 

[Brainsucker]

I remember one of our former poster, CN Leio or something worked in BYD. So where is he now?

 

[Daniel808]

NEV Sales of May 2022

https://twitter.com/x/status/1532365370471817217

https://twitter.com/x/status/1535629624406724609

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[F-22Raptor]

BYD Continues to Outpaces Tesla ​

By Glenn Dyer | More Articles by Glenn Dyer



Elon Musk’s Tesla might have seen a sharp improvement in production of electric vehicles (or New Energy Vehicles, as China classifies them, or NEVs) from its huge Shanghai plant in May, but for a third month in a row it has had to cede market leadership in China to the Warren Buffett backed BYD.

According to China Passenger Car Association data issued late Thursday, Tesla sold 32,165 Chinese-made electric vehicles in May, including 22,340 units for export.

That compares with 1,152 vehicles sold and none exported in April.
The Tesla factory halted work for 22 days beginning late March to comply with a city-wide lockdown in Shanghai.

The Association said the improvement by Tesla and BYD (a bit smaller than Tesla’s) came as NEV sales in China leapt more than 90% from depressed April to 360,000 units in May.

The improvement stood out in another weak month of total passenger car sales that nevertheless showed a solid rise from April.
Overall, passenger vehicle sales in China fell 17.3% year-on-year to 1.37 million units in May, the Association’s figures revealed.

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Global Sales Plugin EV in April 2022


Month-on-month, sales rose 29.1%, no surprise considering the dearth of activity in April when sales fell 43% because of the impact of lockdowns.
BYD Co, the automaker backed by Warren Buffett, led NEV sales with 114,183 units, up from just over 105,000 in April and just over 104,000 in March. It is the first time ever BYD has seen NEV sales of 100,000 or more for three consecutive months.

“The industry has witnessed a strong improvement in its supply chain under the current policy of ensuring production in Changchun (one of the first cities to be shut in a lockdown and a major car making centre) and Shanghai,” PCA Secretary General Cui Dongshu said during a briefing Thursday, reported by Reuters.

The PCA said it expects a continued rebound in June, given the pandemic has eased and vehicle production and sales are recovering. Both car production and sales should increase more than 10% in June versus 2021.

The Chinese government has introduced several consumer incentives around automobiles to offset the negative impact from China’s stringent pandemic control policies and waning economy growth.

The purchase tax levied on some low-emission passenger vehicles has been cut by half, and local authorities and automakers have followed with a string of incentives of their own (at the direction of the central government).
Chinese analysts say that BYD had a stockmarket value of more than $US130 billion this week, making it the third most valuable global carmaker after Tesla and Toyota.

Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway owns 7.9% of BYD, or more than $US10 billion. He paid $US232 million for the holding back in 2008.



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Global Sales Plugin EV in January-April 2022


Despite Musk’s protests about the shortage of key green minerals such as lithium, here’s another producer that is not going to be crying with the Tesla CEO.
Chile’s SQM is a global lithium major and it has just revealed a massive, near twelve-fold rise in quarterly profit thanks to the soaring prices for the metal.
Those price rises for lithium have gotten Musk all agitated and blustering – for SQM, it’s music to its balance sheet.
The company said net profit rose to $US796 million in the March quarter after revenue nearly quadrupled to $US2.02 billion.

SQM produces its lithium from brine pools in the north of the country.

The jump came on the back of a 59% surge in lithium sales volume and near seven-fold rise in prices, thanks to the global push towards electric vehicles.
SQM Chief Executive Ricardo Ramos had said in March the company hoped to hit production capacity of 180,000 tonnes of lithium in 2022 and the company said in its report that this year’s sales were now forecast expected to surpass 140,000 metric tonnes.

SQM’s board announced in April the company planned to invest $US900 million this year to increase lithium carbonate and hydroxide production capacity.

SQM and US competitor Albemarle Corp. have major projects in Chile’s Atacam salt flats, which the companies use to extract lithium from below the surface via brine pools.


SQM is in Australia in a JV with Wesfarmers in the old Kidman Resources mining and processing Mount Holland project in WA (the JV company as called Covalent).

The boom so far this year in prices has already seen SQM earn more than it did in all of 2021 and 2020 combined, while revenues in the first quarter were six times those for all of 2020.

SQM reported net income in 2021of $US585.5 million, up from US$164.5 million in 2020.

Revenues increased by more than 144% to $US936.1 million in 2021 compared to $US383.4 million in 2020.

The 5th BMX auction from Pilbara Minerals last month helps explain the surge in earnings by SQM.

The auction priced lithium at just under $US6,000 a tonne (and just over $US6,000 adjusted for quality differences).

That price was up more than $US4,700 a tonne in less than a year, which helps explain the complaints from Elon Musk and others about rising costs of battery minerals and a shortage of supply.

https://www.sharecafe.com.au/2022/06/10/byd-continues-to-outpace-tesla-in-china/

BYD

Looks like Tesla days in China is number. The blow will be even deepen once BYD seal comes into sales in few month time.

@Hamartia Antidote @F-22Raptor

If I were you, better dump Tesla stock and pick BYD ,just like Warren Buffett.

Warren Buffett , indeed is a great investor with great foresight.

You do realize the only reason BYD is ahead is because Tesla Shanghai was completely shut down in April and in May was still not up to full production pre lockdown right? And the fact you still have to use PHEVs to prop up BYD numbers says it all. BYD sold 53K pure EVs in May. Tesla does not sell PHEVs.

We also need to remember Berlin and Texas are still in early stages of ramping. It usually takes a full year to reach full production.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Even Tesla choose to using BYD's Blade Battery on their cars

BYD to Supply Batteries to Tesla 'Very Soon' - Report​

Teslas made in China could soon feature battery packs made by rival automaker BYD, although it's unclear when these cars will come online.

10 June 2022, 6:40 am


It seems as though BYD will not only be a rival to Tesla, but also one of its suppliers.

According to Reuters, Lian Yubo, a BYD executive vice president and the company’s former head of engineering, told China’s state-run English-language TV news network CGTN, “We are now good friends with Elon Musk because we are preparing to supply batteries to Tesla very soon”.
Neither company has confirmed the executive’s remarks, and it’s unclear when BYD’s batteries will begin showing up Tesla vehicles.

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  BYD Seal

It has also yet to be confirmed what battery type BYD will produce for Tesla, but it’s possible it will be the Blade lithium-iron-phosphate (LFP) battery BYD launched in 2020.
At present the sole global supplier of LFP batteries is Chinese battery rival CATL. Tesla currently installs LFP batteries in Model 3 sedans and Model Y crossovers built at its Shanghai factory.

Tesla’s Australian arm sources the Model 3 from Shanghai, and will do the same for the Model Y, which is yet to be available locally but was recently spotted on the back of a car carrier in Victoria.

LFP batteries are cheaper to produce, safer in the event of an accident, and minimise the use of rare earth metals, such as nickel and cobalt.
On the flip side, LFP battery packs are less energy dense than the nickel-based lithium-ion units installed in made-in-the-USA Tesla models.

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  BYD Han

BYD’s Blade LFP batteries are currently fitted to the company’s own Han electric sedan and Tang crossover.

Although a number of BYD’s early vehicles gained notoriety for their Toyota-inspired designs, the company now has partnerships with Mercedes-Benz and Toyota.
Recently BYD announced it had ended production of non-electrified vehicles, concentrating solely on plug-in hybrids and EVs.

Locally BYD’s importer is hoping to have 20 dealers nationwide by 2024, and increase its EV lineup to eight vehicles.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/byd-to-supply-batteries-to-tesla-very-soon-report




BYD's Blade Battery

Indeed

BYD's Blade Battery Explained

Inside BYD's Ultra-Safe Blade Battery Factory | BYD​

I'm worried about reputational damage to BYD if a Tesla has an accident or something. They might blame BYD.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

As a car driver,

LOL! Well congrats I guess. Welcome to the modern world.

Battery and Electric Motor System is the Heart & Soul of an EV

That’s a pride for BYD to make tesla begging for their Battery & Electric Motor System

Well right now that 100K plug in cars BYD sold in May is made up mostly of hybrids since apparently BYD customers don't trust BYD's 100% battery car models. As their #1 selling EV Han only has ~12K in sales and their Dolphin only ~4K.

Mark my word, tesla would soon copy BYD Rotating Information System and Smart lightning’s on

LOL! Oh Tesla copying?

When did BYD start installing a rectangular information system on a pedestal like that in the first place instead of in the dash? I will tell when Tesla did ...back before 2016...where was a screen like that in a BYD model back then??? BYD has been selling cars since at least 2003...and has had plenty of opportunities...please show us all when it first got the idea to pull the screen out of the dash and mount it like that.

2016 picture of a Tesla Model 3

Let's take a looky at the interior of the showpiece BYD Tang back in 2016/2017.

The answer is BYD is ALREADY doing the copying.

 

[Beast]

Well right now that 100K plug in cars BYD sold in May is made up mostly of hybrids since apparently BYD customers don't trust BYD's 100% battery car models. As their #1 selling EV Han only has ~12K in sales and their Dolphin only ~4K.



LOL! Tesla copying?

When did BYD start installing a rectangular screen like that in the first place? I will tell when Tesla did ...back before 2016...where was a screen like that in BYD model back then???

2016 picture of a Tesla Model 3

LOL.. Typical tactics trying to claim Chinese consumer dont trust BYD then why BYD sales triumph Tesla overall? Stop with your BS of using Tesla 3 sales. How many model BYD has compare to Tesla 3? We dont look at single model but overall sales. If BYD has 3 model like Tesla, surely BYD Han can still easily triumph anything Tesla throw.

You do realize the only reason BYD is ahead is because Tesla Shanghai was completely shut down in April and in May was still not up to full production pre lockdown right? And the fact you still have to use PHEVs to prop up BYD numbers says it all. BYD sold 53K pure EVs in May. Tesla does not sell PHEVs.

We also need to remember Berlin and Texas are still in early stages of ramping. It usually takes a full year to reach full production.

HAHAHA... Dont blame Shut down when your stupid planning and foresee failed. Everybody in China affects by shutdown. BYD is just too smart and their product offer is simply too good. Loser will always come up with excuse to comfort their losses.

 

[F-22Raptor]

LOL.. Typical tactics trying to claim Chinese consumer dont trust BYD then why BYD sales triumph Tesla overall? Stop with your BS of using Tesla 3 sales. How many model BYD has compare to Tesla 3? We dont look at single model but overall sales. If BYD has 3 model like Tesla, surely BYD Han can still easily triumph anything Tesla throw.


HAHAHA... Dont blame Shut down when your stupid planning and foresee failed. Everybody in China affects by shutdown. BYD is just too smart and their product offer is simply too good. Loser will always come up with excuse to comfort their losses.

Tesla only has one factory in China. Even in May it was still not in full production. Clearly, if you only have one factory and its shutdown, sales and production will collapse. But this is only temporary.

Its coming off a record Q1 in deliveries and earnings. Teslas dominance is only beginning.

 

[Beast]

Tesla only has one factory in China. Even in May it was still not in full production. Clearly, if you only have one factory and its shutdown, sales and production will collapse. But this is only temporary.

Its coming off a record Q1 in deliveries and earnings. Teslas dominance is only beginning.

Self delusion when number tells another story. Thick face story spinner. Tesla are slowly collapsing. Its lead it will never regain. BYD is the champion from now on!

 

[F-22Raptor]

Self delusion when number tells another story. Thick face story spinner. Tesla are slowly collapsing. Its lead it will never regain. BYD is the champion from now on!

Record deliveries and earnings in Q1. Early ramp in Berlin and Texas. Tesla is collapsing?

I’m saving your post for future reference