Businessmen plan protest against govt policies

[H!TchHiker]

Fake news...even if it is true they should pay taxes or close there business if they can't sustain the competition...Gov should not be blackmailed

 

[shah_123]

Good translation... loving this rona dhona by the business community now that their ayashi is ending.

Business activities have already slowed down considerably + if the business community starts going into strikes, there will be no money (in form of taxes) for govt to do Ayashi ----

 

[proud.pakistani]

FBR corrupt officials are fully exploiting the situation by black bailing traders. I know a FBR official who is building his own lavish house which is not possible under his pay grade.

 

[blueazure]

Translation



Stop imposing tax on us.



Stop making us pay tax.



Let us smuggle and money launder unabaited.



Spend taxpayer money on our businesses to make us richer.



Fix the economy now!

mr ghazi

wunder kid of PTi, has an accounting degree from oxford

lives abroad 6000 miles away in his cozy western life

lectures us about tax and industry layoffs


oh yes, mr ghazi has a solution, all these laid off workers should learn to code Python,,

convenient, innit

Good translation... loving this rona dhona by the business community now that their ayashi is ending.

shame on you really

Okay, do you know how much taxes traders pay and have you ever dealt with fbr employees?

Those traders who are in tax net are already paying sales tax 17%+3%+3%, why you say "stop imposing tax on us"

The fbr guys are HARAM-KHORS.

do not argue with mr software 'tester '

on another thread, he was telling me that all these laid off people should learn to 'code '

another delusional PTI kid....

see the arrogance and hubris of these PTI fanboys, they are cheering the closure of industry and imposition of draconian taxes !

 

[Bouncer]

The rally on Tuesday would deliberate on available options to persuade the government to withdraw the sales tax and the condition of acquiring CNIC copy of unregistered buyers. “The options may include a shutter-down strike,” he said. Big markets of the city that will participate in the rally include Jodia Bazaar, Saddar electronics market, Tariq Road markets, main cloth market at Tower and Shershah scrap market.

This here is the issue. These guys have been enjoying a free ride for too long. These are tax thieves. Simple as that.
If PTI backs down from this demand, they loose my vote at least.

 

[blueazure]

This here is the issue. These guys have been enjoying a free ride for too long. These are tax thieves. Simple as that.
If PTI backs down from this demand, they loose my vote at least.

what free ride ?

can you please elaborate ?

it seems to me that everyone is a thief in ' new Pakistan'

!

 

[shah_123]

mr ghazi

wunder kid of PTi, has an accounting degree from oxford

lives abroad 6000 miles away in his cozy western life

lectures us about tax and industry layoffs


oh yes, mr ghazi has a solution, all these laid off workers should learn to code Python,,

convenient, innit



shame on you really



do not argue with mr software 'tester '

on another thread, he was telling me that all these laid off people should learn to 'code '

another delusional PTI kid....

see the arrogance and hubris of these PTI fanboys, they are cheering the closure of industry and imposition of draconian taxes !

Don't know specifically about Mr Ghazi, but I do have an idea that most supporting govt policies are either from rich class, uni kids, lives on Abba G's money or don't have families to support.

I await Ghazi's response, on what basis he said that traders don't pay taxes --- All those traders who are importers pay taxes at the time of custom clearance -- let me break down the taxes:
1) custom duty
2) sales tax 17%
3) Additional sales tax 3%
4) Regulatory duty
5) income tax 6%
6) Additional custom duty
7) Punjab tax
8) another sales tax@3% on sales per month
@Bouncer

 

[blueazure]

Don't know specifically about Mr Ghazi, but I do have an idea that most supporting govt policies are either from rich class, uni kids, lives on Abba G's money or don't have families to support.

I await Ghazi's response, on what basis he said that traders don't pay taxes --- All those traders who are importers pay taxes at the time of custom clearance -- let me break down the taxes:
1) custom duty
2) sales tax 17%
3) Additional sales tax 3%
4) Regulatory duty
5) income tax 6%
6) Additional custom duty
7) Punjab tax
8) another sales tax@3% on sales per month
@Bouncer

sir, you cannot import a nut bolt in pakistan sans duty. there's one for the nut and one for the bolt.

( not to mention the bribes businesses have to pay, namely, to wapda, sui etc)

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all are thieves in 'nouvelle pakistan ' . from the awam to small dukaans.. !

hang em all

 

[shah_123]

sir, you cannot import a nut bolt in pakistan sans duty. there's one for the nut and one for the bolt.

( not to mention the bribes businesses have to pay, namely, to wapda, sui etc)

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all are thieves in 'nouvelle pakistan ' . from the awam to small dukaans.. !

hang em all

You can't get things done without bribe.

The issue is that our ruling elite is totally disconnected with problems Awaam faces --- Zardari /Nawaz, what they know about hardship and now the legendary Imran Khan, what does he know about raising a family.

Our ruling elite including Imran Khan wants to follow the system of west wrt to taxation and documentation, but they don't fix the system like the corrupt fbr and they aren't ready to provide the facilities the west provides.

Also our laws are kinda copy paste from west without taking into consideration local customs/culture. ----- just to give an example, in our societies, the middle class when constructing house 3-5 marlas, they might ask brother/sister/friend for contribution or loan, sometimes they have money through kamete system --- These days fbr is asking for source of money for everything. --- I asked FBR guy if this source of money (above example) is acceptable, he replied NO.

 

[313ghazi]

mr ghazi

wunder kid of PTi, has an accounting degree from oxford

lives abroad 6000 miles away in his cozy western life

lectures us about tax and industry layoffs


oh yes, mr ghazi has a solution, all these laid off workers should learn to code Python,,

convenient, innit



shame on you really



do not argue with mr software 'tester '

on another thread, he was telling me that all these laid off people should learn to 'code '

another delusional PTI kid....

see the arrogance and hubris of these PTI fanboys, they are cheering the closure of industry and imposition of draconian taxes !

I have never been to Oxford, let alone got a degree from there. My only experience with tax is having paid it my whole life. Perhaps you could just appreciate for a moment that the only people with a problem against tax are members based in Pakistan not overseas Pakistanis.

I am not a rich man. I live a few of paychecks away from financial ruin. Yet I pay 33% on my income, 20% sales tax, an additional local tax, a fee to drive my car on the road, mandatory house and car insurance, an annual fee to own a TV, 60% of the price of my diesel is tax. My household energy bill is about 5% of my income, my diesel cost is about 10% of my income.

That's why I find it hilarious when millionaires complain about taxes. I find it confusing that those of you who aren't millionaires are even more concerned for them.

I won't presume to know your economic status, but I suspect you can afford to live your life, despite the increase in costs.

 

[shah_123]

I have never been to Oxford, let alone got a degree from there. My only experience with tax is having paid it my whole life. Perhaps you could just appreciate for a moment that the only people with a problem against tax are members based in Pakistan not overseas Pakistanis.

I am not a rich man. I live a few of paychecks away from financial ruin. Yet I pay 33% on my income, 20% sales tax, an additional local tax, a fee to drive my car on the road, mandatory house and car insurance, an annual fee to own a TV, 60% of the price of my diesel is tax. My household energy bill is about 5% of my income, my diesel cost is about 10% of my income.

That's why I find it hilarious when millionaires complain about taxes. I find it confusing that those of you who aren't millionaires are even more concerned for them.

I won't presume to know your economic status, but I suspect you can afford to live your life, despite the increase in costs.

What facilities do you get in return?

sir, you cannot import a nut bolt in pakistan sans duty. there's one for the nut and one for the bolt.

( not to mention the bribes businesses have to pay, namely, to wapda, sui etc)

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all are thieves in 'nouvelle pakistan ' . from the awam to small dukaans.. !

hang em all

One thing more,
even after custom clearance, you have to pay (chai pani) the custom officers (HARAM KHORS), these guys wait outside your Godown.

Has the revolutionary PTi govt done anything about this @Dubious

Anyone who says that there's free ride in Pakistan needs to see a doctor.

The free ride is for the ruling class(including generals)

 

[Dubious]

even after custom clearance, you have to pay (chai pani) the custom officers (HARAM KHORS), these guys wait outside your Godown.

My parents came from umrah, no jai pain
I just came from UAE few days ago, no chai pani
Last year I came from Europe, no chai pani

Behaviour of some individuals should be recorded and reported ...It is not in the their training to ask and if they do take them down

 

[shah_123]

My parents came from umrah, no jai pain
I just came from UAE few days ago, no chai pani
Last year I came from Europe, no chai pani

Behaviour of some individuals should be recorded and reported ...It is not in the their training to ask and if they do take them down

I wasn't talking about umrah or your business/leisure trip to UAE.

not some individuals, it's MOST --- even after custom clearance, importers have to bribe custom officers patrolling on roads --- you don't pay them you can't take your container, simple.

I am quite surprised at your post, either you are too innocent or you are part of the system --- I leave it to you to answer who you are.

 

[I.R.A]

My only experience with tax is having paid it my whole life.

In UK.

 

[Dubious]

not some individuals, it's MOST --- even after custom clearance, importers have to bribe custom officers patrolling on roads --- you don't pay them you can't take your container, simple.

Report them...you people pay bribe then cry we have to?!

My dad has been asked for bribery many times and he has always said you will get the money if I get a receipt otherwise it is haram.

And if they insist he says keep the item we will collect it from your boss ..which they won't coz they want cash...

not some individuals, it's MOST --- even after custom clearance, importers have to bribe custom officers patrolling on roads --- you don't pay them you can't take your container, simple.

Stop paying them and take them to court!

I am quite surprised at your post, either you are too innocent or you are part of the system --- I leave it to you to answer who you are.

You need to know who is in charge that they are afraid of...request for their boss or something ...It is something every gora would do if wronged