Burning of Koran is CANCELLED

[DESERT FIGHTER]

That's hardly the right attitude You then become the monster that he makes you and other good Muslims out to be.

Not me dude the extremists!

 

[Awesome]

Muslims have their own countries. The US went to war in Bosnia to prevent muslims from being slaughtered by Christians there. Spare me.

18 years on, that seems highly unlikely any more. Muse didn't say US is inherently an evil country, he questioned what it has been "reduced to". Of course other US interests were a driving factor as well.

 

[CardSharp]

I don't think everyone in any nation agrees on anything.

What might be right reason for you may not be right reason for someone else.

Lets not get in the discussion of "right" and "wrong" all over again here.

There's not a spectrum of reasons for this particular issue really. Both reasons for opposing the Koran burning are "right". One is out of concern for the troops and the other is out of concern for a harmonious American society that includes Muslims.

But concern for the troops does not exclude those who couldn't give a flying F about inclusiveness and for a lack of a better word "multi-multiculturalism"

 

[gambit]

It doesn't seem the event is cancelled as a confirmed thing, we'll have to see. Again, the event seems to have been cancelled to protect American troops, not out of any love for the Muslims.

Soooo...'Death to America' is love talk? Thanks for the enlightenment.

 

[WAQAS119]

And yet we see an overseas muslim claiming victimhood in the US where hate crimes against Jews outnumber against muslims by 10-1.

Is their any credible source or same Paranoid and Propaganda articles similar to posted below!!!!

Example:::

Western News Articles when Non-muslim is involved in Crimes:

Western News Articles when Muslim is involved in Crimes:

 

[TruthSeeker]

The root of the problem (raaq aur reesha) of the problem is that not only does the US populace think that it is OK to be an enemy of Islam, sections of the US government and media are similarly convinced that it's OK to be enemies of Islam and in particular of US Muslims.

I disagree with the part about US Muslims. Until 9-11 most Americans did not even think about US Muslims either + or -. The heart of the US common man's attitude about Islam comes from the fact that a good many of the USA's enemies in the world (excepting Hugo C. and Kim Jong Il) are Muslim. Why? I think because of Israel. I believe that the USA's irrational support of Israel makes the USA the enemy of many Muslims, and then, many Muslims the enemies of the USA. Absent the conflict over Israel, the USA populace would go back to ignoring Islam and Muslims as anything that concerned them.

As for the Quran burning, I deplore it. Did you hear the story about all the Dari-language Bibles the US Air Force burned in Afghanistan? Seems they were shipped to Bahgram by some US church at the request of an airman there. He didn't know of the strict US military prohibition against distributing Christian literature in Afghanistan. The US Air Force burned them so they wouldn't leak out into Afghanistan and the USA be blamed for trying to convert Muslims to Christianity. So the US Government burned dozens of bibles, on purpose!!

 

[muse]

Gambit

News flash -- US is also a Muslim country - US Muslims are Americans - you don't have to like it -- and you don't have to respect this either -- it's just reality, the more you fight it, the more it becomes real in the psyche of the nation, the more Americans get to know US Muslims and Islam in the US, so for my money, bring it on.

 

[Awesome]

I think there is at least a partial consideration for Muslims but you are probably largely right. Not everyone oppose this hate rally for the right reasons.

It might be that its completely supposed to be out of respect for the Muslims, but they haven't made an effort trying to convince us of it.

 

[CardSharp]

Muslims have their own countries. The US went to war in Bosnia to prevent muslims from being slaughtered by Christians there. Spare me.

That is one of the reasons I admire America. While most nations pay lip service to higher ideals, it is the only one who has for better or worse acted upon them. If you read S. Huntington's Clash of Civilizations, it lists Bosnia as one of the few inter-civilizational acts of support in recent history.

BUT these ideals may be shifting....

It might be that its completely supposed to be out of respect for the Muslims, but they haven't made an effort trying to convince us of it.

It's not... As it is evidence by the way the talking heads have approached the issue.

 

[Awesome]

Soooo...'Death to America' is love talk? Thanks for the enlightenment.

Enlightenment? Explain? Haha which light bulb just switched on?

 

[gambit]

Enlightenment? Explain? Haha which light bulb just switched on?

That 'Death to America' is supposed to make US swoons for muslims.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Military burns unsolicited Bibles sent to Afghanistan

May 22, 2009 -- Updated 0624 GMT (1424 HKT)

(CNN) -- Military personnel threw away, and ultimately burned, confiscated Bibles that were printed in the two most common Afghan languages amid concern they would be used to try to convert Afghans, a Defense Department spokesman said Tuesday.

The unsolicited Bibles sent by a church in the United States were confiscated about a year ago at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan because military rules forbid troops of any religion from proselytizing while deployed there, Lt. Col. Mark Wright said.

Such religious outreach can endanger American troops and civilians in the devoutly Muslim nation, Wright said.

"The decision was made that it was a 'force protection' measure to throw them away, because, if they did get out, it could be perceived by Afghans that the U.S. government or the U.S. military was trying to convert Muslims," Wright told CNN on Tuesday.

Troops at posts in war zones are required to burn their trash, Wright said.

The Bibles were written in the languages Pashto and Dari.

This decision came to light recently, after the Al Jazeera English network aired video of a group prayer service and chapel sermon that a reporter said suggested U.S. troops were being encouraged to spread Christianity.

The military denied that earlier this month, saying much in the video was taken out of context.

"This was irresponsible and dangerous journalism sensationalizing year-old footage of a religious service for U.S. soldiers on a U.S. base and inferring that troops are evangelizing to Afghans," Col. Gregory Julian said.

The military says a soldier at Bagram received the Bibles and didn't realize he wasn't allowed to hand them out. In the Al Jazeera video, which shows the Bibles at the prayer service, an unnamed soldier says members of his church raised money for them.

The chaplain later corrected the soldier and confiscated the Bibles, Wright said.

Military officers considered sending the Bibles back to the church, he said, but they worried the church would turn around and send them to another organization in Afghanistan -- giving the impression that they had been distributed by the U.S. government.

That could lead to violence against troops or U.S. civilians, Wright said.

Al Jazeera English, a Qatar-based international news service, said its reporters tried to get a response from military officials for its story but were unable to do so.

The U.S. military air base at Bagram is home to thousands of troops from all branches of the U.S. military. The vast majority of the troops do not leave the base and are in various support roles for U.S. troops across Afghanistan.

Military burns unsolicited Bibles sent to Afghanistan - CNN.com

 

[Peregrine]

The saddest part is that the so called Muslim world has not demonstrated any united defiant stance against the vile intentions of this pastor. Shame on OIC & on all the Islamic states!!!!!!!!!!
And as for this pastor, his worth is no more than a loony person who spits at the sky, but it falls right back at his face, it is times like this which make me feel proud of my religion which actually forbade me from resorting to these despicable acts.

 

[CardSharp]

I disagree with the part about US Muslims. Until 9-11 most Americans did not even think about US Muslims either + or -. The heart of the US common man's attitude about Islam comes from the fact that a good many of the USA's enemies in the world (excepting Hugo C. and Kim Jong Il) are Muslim. Why? I think because of Israel. I believe that the USA's irrational support of Israel makes the USA the enemy of many Muslims, and then, many Muslims the enemies of the USA. Absent the conflict over Israel, the USA populace would go back to ignoring Islam and Muslims as anything that concerned them.

As for the Quran burning, I deplore it. Did you hear the story about all the Dari-language Bibles the US Air Force burned in Afghanistan? Seems they were shipped to Bahgram by some US church at the request of an airman there. He didn't know of the strict US military prohibition against distributing Christian literature in Afghanistan. The US Air Force burned them so they wouldn't leak out into Afghanistan and the USA be blamed for trying to convert Muslims to Christianity. So the US Government burned dozens of bibles, on purpose!!

Many good points, but like I mentioned earlier in the thread, my first exposure to hatred for Islam happened in the late 90's when I was around 10+ years old with some white Christian friends. That was before 9/11 and when many Islamic nations supported GWI and the settling of account with Saddam.

 

[Coltsfan]

Gambit

News flash -- US is also a Muslim country - US Muslims are Americans - you don't have to like it -- and you don't have to respect this either -- it's just reality, the more you fight it, the more it becomes real in the psyche of the nation, the more Americans get to know US Muslims and Islam in the US, so for my money, bring it on.

Well in that case why don't US Muslims accept the western principles of free speech and accept the right of this crazy Pastor to burn Qurans?

You can not cherry pick what privileges to take and what to reject.