Burning of Koran is CANCELLED

[gambit]

And that man is crazy. Just like the Pastor/Attention whore in Florida. Get a clue man. If your trying to apply this mans burger king Jihad to justify your anti Islam views go on ahead.

I on the other hand will hold no views towards Christianity because of a crazy pastor.

This is not about Islam, a religion. Ideas by themselves do nothing. They need the human agency to survive and to propagate. The issue here is people. So Islam means nothing to me. But since we are talking about people...

Business - The Enquirer - June 25, 1997

Nike Inc. Tuesday let the other shoe drop in a public affairs snafu festering for three months, agreeing to recall a line of shoes with a logo that a Muslim group found offensive.

The logo, meant to look like flames, resembles the word "Allah" in Arabic script. Shoes bearing the flame have been sold this summer under the names Air Bakin', Air Melt, Air Grill and Air B-Que.

In announcing its first-ever recall, Nike said it will apologize to Muslims and donate a $50,000 playground to an Islamic elementary school in the United States. In exchange, the Council on American-Islamic Relations said it will urge Muslims worldwide not to boycott Nike products.

Resembles...!!! And we have outraged muslims over a resemblance. An American muslim advocacy group assured the author of this accidental resemblance of the Arabic script that it will not suffer any economic warfare methods by the muslim community. In return, the author of the accidental resemblance was tacitly financially extorted. A recall of a product for a safety issue, not for creating a structurally defective product, but because of the potential threat of bodily harm upon the user of the product by an offended person.

So do we really need to burn a Quran to offend ANY muslim?

 

[muse]

Thats exactly what's wrong with the "sensitivity" argument -- Why should the sensitivity argument be right for you but wrong for others?

 

[Coltsfan]

Thats exactly what's wrong with the "sensitivity" argument -- Why should the sensitivity argument be right for you but wrong for others?

I think his logic is other way around. He is saying since Muslims are so sensitive about religion that even a resemblance on an ice cream cone or shoe can hurt their sentiments. They should consider feelings of 911 victim's families too.

 

[Jigs]

This is not about Islam, a religion. Ideas by themselves do nothing. They need the human agency to survive and to propagate. The issue here is people. So Islam means nothing to me. But since we are talking about people...

Business - The Enquirer - June 25, 1997

Resembles...!!! And we have outraged muslims over a resemblance. An American muslim advocacy group assured the author of this accidental resemblance of the Arabic script that it will not suffer any economic warfare methods by the muslim community. In return, the author of the accidental resemblance was tacitly financially extorted. A recall of a product for a safety issue, not for creating a structurally defective product, but because of the potential threat of bodily harm upon the user of the product by an offended person.

So do we really need to burn a Quran to offend ANY muslim?

Not about Islam ? Right.

In February, Reebok International Ltd. discontinued its Incubus women's shoes after discovering that the name referred to a mythical demon.

There you go^^.

 

[gambit]

Thats exactly what's wrong with the "sensitivity" argument -- Why should the sensitivity argument be right for you but wrong for others?

Muslims demanded that non-muslims respected muslims' religious sensitivities. And usually the non-muslims capitulated. So the question now become when will non-muslims receive reciprocity?

 

[Jigs]

I think his logic is other way around. He is saying since Muslims are so sensitive about religion that even a resemblance on an ice cream cone or shoe can hurt their sentiments. They should consider feelings of 911 victim's families too.

Does not concern the Muslim community. Take it up with the terrorist group that did it. If they are confused they can wait for the center to be built and go there for understanding.

 

[gambit]

Does not concern the Muslim community. Take it up with the terrorist group that did it. If they are confused they can wait for the center to be built and go there for understanding.

When I was in Turkey, one of my trainees patiently explained to me, during his smoke break, that refusing to convert to Islam constitute an offense to God, hence the muslim is obligated to defend God in any manner he sees fit. I asked him to try to convert me. He declined but he did not looked too happy about it. He was a sharp fella. I gave him his much deserved high grades.

 

[Jigs]

When I was in Turkey, one of my trainees patiently explained to me, during his smoke break, that refusing to convert to Islam constitute an offense to God, hence the muslim is obligated to defend God in any manner he sees fit. I asked him to try to convert me. He declined but he did not looked too happy about it. He was a sharp fella. I gave him his much deserved high grades.

That is a great story. I am surprised you gave him high grades rather then looking down on him or maybe you didn't let that part get in the way. When i served my conscription we had a debate over signing the donation of our organs to the state if we were killed. We decided to do it since it would count as charity and a requirement of our religion.

 

[gambit]

In February, Reebok International Ltd. discontinued its Incubus women's shoes after discovering that the name referred to a mythical demon.

There you go^^.

Who worshiped the Incubus? What Reebok did was out of embarrassment, not because anyone felt religiously persecuted. Sometime ago a processed food company recalled boxed fish because the box was labeled with the word 'codpieces'...

Codpiece - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A codpiece (from Middle English cod, "scrotum") is a covering flap or pouch that attaches to the front of the crotch of men's trousers and usually accentuates the genital area.

Am quite certain that no men were offended.

 

[Jigs]

Who worshiped the Incubus? What Reebok did was out of embarrassment, not because anyone felt religiously persecuted. Sometime ago a processed food company recalled boxed fish because the box was labeled with the word 'codpieces'...

Codpiece - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Am quite certain that no men were offended.

Would this not constitute a culture clash ? Are you not respectful of this ? Nike was and Reebok. This type of stuff happens with companies all the time. If your drawing the comparison between this and a mosque and 9/11 attacks i do you lose you there.

Look!
All he wanted to do is ask simple questions. They wouldn't even let him stand there.

 

[muse]

I think his logic is other way around. He is saying since Muslims are so sensitive about religion that even a resemblance on an ice cream cone or shoe can hurt their sentiments. They should consider feelings of 911 victim's families too.

So were that particular group of Muslims "Right", or Correct" to be so "sensitive"?

Poor gambit does not have a leg to stand on - if they were "right" to be so "senitive", then there will be no end to their sensitivity -- and if they were wrong...?

It's a total non-issue, private property, freedom of religion - you like it? great, you don't like it? great -- it has nothing to do with like or dislike - in the US no one religious group gets to tell the other religious groups what they may or may not build on their own private property - the end -- But no.... Show the entire world that the US population after 9 years of warring on Muslim populations abroad has not had it's fill, there are Muslims at home to war upon.

The External affairs of a country are a reflection of the internal - at war at home, at war abroad. This must not be how the US is seen, it must not be what the US is -- there are much tougher days ahead for the US, it must be busy tearing away at itself while other challenges to it's way of life go unhindered.

 

[gambit]

So were that particular group of Muslims "Right", or Correct" to be so "sensitive"?

In their minds, they were in the 'right'...And that was all that mattered.

Poor gambit does not have a leg to stand on - if they were "right" to be so "senitive", then there will be no end to their sensitivity -- and if they were wrong...?

Yes...??? And if they were wrong...???

It's a total non-issue, private property, freedom of religion - you like it? great, you don't like it? great -- it has nothing to do with like or dislike - in the US no one religious group gets to tell the other religious groups what they may or may not build on their own private property - the end -- But no.... Show the entire world that the US population after 9 years of warring on Muslim populations abroad has not had it's fill, there are Muslims at home to war upon.

The External affairs of a country are a reflection of the internal - at war at home, at war abroad. This must not be how the US is seen, it must not be what the US is -- there are much tougher days ahead for the US, it must be busy tearing away at itself while other challenges to it's way of life go unhindered.

Oh...Here we go again with the victimhood mentality...

 

[TaimiKhan]

Well they may have canceled their program, but a lot of damage has already been done. May be not as much damage as the actual burning would have done, but it has already provided the fuel to the fire.

 

[rumit]

Obama said that his (pastor) plan in grave danger the lives of young men and women serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I think he (pastor) was very lucky to cancel his scheme, otherwise it would be one more salvo to make boom like 9|11.

 

[fallstuff]

I understand that gun culture is an integral part the US but I don't buy the necessity reasons you gave.

My original post was more to address the inherent racism in the Confederate Ante-bellum, lost cause culture.

You got to know the people that live in the country. You do not know nor do you understand what people consider as threats and vulnerabilities.

I do not freak out at the sight of The Confederate battle flag. My neighbor has one in his house. Very common sight in the South. These days the flag has little to do with slavery/segregation representation and more to do as a symbol of Southern values/pride and intrusion of Northern influences.