Buddhism v Islam in Asia Fears of a new religious strife

[faithfulguy]

That is interesting to know.

Do you know that there was some study that correlatives levels of violence in a country with the percentage of Muslims.
Increasing percentage of Muslims in the overall population corresponded with increasing violence and problems in the country.

If that is the case, than India must have one of the highest percentage of Muslims in the country. Even higher than Pakistan. But that is not the case, is it. This kind of argument is a fallacy. Sure, there are Muslim terrorists and jihadist. but to correlate violence with a religion must hold true for all cases. That is, if the country has a higher percentage of Muslim like UAE, than the violence must be proportionally higher than India, which has a lower percentage of Muslims. But we all know that this do not hold. I don't see no rape protest in UAE. Guess which country has a sticky rape thread, a banned topic, in this forum.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Even you Chinese, who are Confucian, Taoist, Buddhist or agnostic, never create cultural problems in US, Canada, UK and other immigrant-oriented countries and are respected.

Confucianism is not really a religion, more of a system of ethics and philosophy.

Most overseas Chinese communities, especially the ones who immigrated a long time ago, tend to be Buddhists. Like the overseas Chinese community in Malaysia.

 

[Contrarian]

If that is the case, than India must have one of the highest percentage of Muslims in the country. Even higher than Pakistan. But that is not the case, is it. This kind of argument is a fallacy. Sure, there are Muslim terrorists and jihadist. but to correlate violence with a religion must hold true for all cases. That is, if the country has a higher percentage of Muslim like UAE, than the violence must be proportionally higher than India, which has a lower percentage of Muslims. But we all know that this do not hold. I don't see no rape protest in UAE. Guess which country has a sticky rape thread, a banned topic, in this forum.

I said percentage of Muslims to the total population. Please read carefully before posting.
Pakistan is over 90% Muslims, where as India is around 15% Muslims. Pakistan is an exponentially more violent country than India.

You dont see protests in UAE because UAE is not a democratic country at all.
Where if women who go to the police if they are raped instead get charged by the police system for 'sex outside the marriage'. You expect people to protest?

Or for that matter, Pakistan has a per capita rape rate of 20% more than India. Yet do you see Pakistani's protesting against it?
No.
Because Indians protest and try to better their system, does not mean that countries such as these are better...not even by a long shot.

Talk sense..and please read the article where these comparisons are made before commenting on it. They do make some compelling arguments.

 

[itachiii]

 

[ThinkLogic]

If that is the case, than India must have one of the highest percentage of Muslims in the country. Even higher than Pakistan. But that is not the case, is it. This kind of argument is a fallacy. Sure, there are Muslim terrorists and jihadist. but to correlate violence with a religion must hold true for all cases. That is, if the country has a higher percentage of Muslim like UAE, than the violence must be proportionally higher than India, which has a lower percentage of Muslims. But we all know that this do not hold. I don't see no rape protest in UAE. Guess which country has a sticky rape thread, a banned topic, in this forum.

LOL! Rape protest doesn't mean there are too many rapes. Sticky rape thread in enemy country's forum.

Looks like high IQ people doesn't know about stats.

Then what about countries where there is no rape protest at all and of-course those that do not have sticky rape thread in a online forum , have they become desensitized to human sufferings because it happens too often.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

That is interesting to know.

Do you know that there was some study that correlatives levels of violence in a country with the percentage of Muslims.
Increasing percentage of Muslims in the overall population corresponded with increasing violence and problems in the country.

Then that research is bull. The Increasing of any population to any concentrated area will always end badly. It doesn't have to be muslims any immigrants will do. just look at what the Irish Immigration do to the US:

Immigration: The Irish

or the more contemporary "Cholo" problem:

lean like a cholo lyrics - YouTube

If the Hindu population increases so does the potential of its population to gravitate more toward unsavory behavior.
Crime in India: Statistics (48 stats available)

Its just like Stalin said "more people more problem, no people no problem"

 

[Tshering22]

Completely agree with this.

 

[livingdead]

I think buddists are really intolerant in myanmar(and probably lanka) to minorities, muslims are not at fault there.

 

[Vinod2070]

I am surprised that there has been no backlash against the bombing of Bodh Gaya and the Bodhi Tree, which is the world's number 1 most sacred pilgrimage site for Buddhists.

If someone had bombed the foundation stone in King Solomon's Temple, or bombed the Kabaa in Mecca, you can be sure there would be war the next day.

And there was no attack on any Islamic mosques or Muslims after the Bamiyan Buddha as well.

But I guess one day the savagery will be avenged.

We have a saying: "Bakre kim maa kab tak khair manayegi", roughly meaning how long can a goat keep her lamb safe.

There will be a payback one day and regrettably, even peaceful Muslims will bear the brunt because they failed to stop and denounce their extremists in time or even worse were their silent backers.

If you look at the conflicts around the world, many of them have their roots in the colonial legacy of dividing majority-Muslim lands and/or giving them to non-Muslims (Burma, Thailand, Philippines, Palestine, Kashmir, etc.)

You overlook the rapine, savagery, slavery and genocides perpetrated by the Islmaic onvaders on people everywhere.

Those are the roots.

And there is going to be a payback.

What goes around comes around.

I know that for you "degree of force" doesn't matter. What has to happen, has to happen.

The British did Hinduism a huge favor by giving it a united country. Otherwise, it is 100% guaranteed that the various regions in India would have been looting, raping and pillaging each other as they had been doing for the last 3000 years.

It is good to see your feelings for people who saved your ancestors from Islamic bigots when they ran to our lands escaping them.

You asked for "evidence" once that this is what the Islamic refugees always do, they turn on their kaffir saviours. You didn't have to look far for the evidence.

The nearest mirror would have done nicely.

You keep on making the demands on the kaffirs and may be that will work in the near term. The long term is another matter.

India's partition was a reward to the Muslims (especially the league clique) for being loyalists.

Yes, we are happy about it. We are rid of people we didn't want.

That doesn't mean that there will never be any justice and payback.

 

[doppelganger]

@Vinod2070 sir good to see you alive again. I thought we had lost you forever.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

I think buddists are really intolerant in myanmar(and probably lanka) to minorities, muslims are not at fault there.

Quote from the Dalai lama:

The Dalai Lama recently spoke with Channel 4 News, passionately discussing the violence against the Rohingya in Burma.

U Wirathu was mentioned, and the Dalai Lama clearly stated that not only is he wrong in his despicable actions, but that all individual life, according to Buddhist Monk traditions, but must be valued and honored. "Buddhists must recognize that different people follow different religions...and we must respect all life."

Seriously people who actually believe that Wirathu and his gangs are Buddhists must be high on something.

 

[Vinod2070]

There is no Muslim land.. Muslim were/are invaders. Just because Muslims uproot the locals it will become Muslim land.. Pakistan, BD were Hindu land invaded by Islam. Israel was Jews land invaded by Muslims. Iran is persian land invaded by Muslims..

don't claim something which is not your

That is where these people tie themselves in knots all over.

They keep on making demands on non Muslims and then they go and show their real colors in one second.

Just because Muslims are majority in one tiny corner of a country doesn't mean they deserve a separate country of their own. Where does one stop? Every muslim majority district should be declared a new independent country then!

Whats so special about Muslims? Can't they co exist with others?

Asking the wrong person.

Global Islamists do think they are special and the non Muslim "dhimmis" are expected to behave in just one way as far as they are concerned.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

@Vinod2070, what I don't understand is that the Dharmic religions spread easily and successfully (and without violence) in the past few thousand years. Like Buddhism to East Asia.

But due to having it easy for so long, they became complacent and lowered their guard. Now they are on the back foot, and for some reason Abrahamic religions are surging, due to Western and Middle Eastern money.

 

[Grevion]

The only reason I see is Muslims take their religion too seriously, which becomes a ploy for the Mullahs to take advantage of.

As for the hate part, hate begets hate, Muslims out of habit hate anything Non Muslim which comes back as hate in return.

As for mentioning it as western propaganda, please give due credit to non Westerners to have at least some intelligence to know whats right and whats not.

As far As Indian Muslims are concerned their are a majority who will keep a balanced approach for nation over religion where nation always tend's to come first before anything else except some areas where sentiment for religion have been exploited too much......

Musallam Iman=musalman has become a far fetched reality for today's Muslim world....

 

[Vinod2070]

@Vinod2070, what I don't understand is that the Dharmic religions spread easily and successfully (and without violence) in the past few thousand years. Like Buddhism to East Asia.

But due to having it easy for so long, they became complacent and lowered their guard. Now they are on the back foot, and for some reason Abrahamic religions are surging, due to Western and Middle Eastern money.

I agree that we had a lean period.

But I don't think we are on the back foot now. In fact, these are interesting times for the Dharmic civilizations. May be an extended inflexion point after which there is no turning back.

For too long has the savagery gone unpunished which has made some people very complacent and cocky.

They have the gall to call their savagery a "gift" and claim that the "degree of force" used on the forced converts "didn't matter".

Then they make such strange demands on the non Muslims in their own countries.

It will all come back to haunt. It is a matter of time.

Very surprised at your post. @Developereo
Since when did Myanmar, Thailand, Philippines become Muslim majority lands?
Muslims are a minority in all three countries. Why should Muslims rule them?


As a matter of fact that they did not give so much.

A hundred different people from different royalties wanted different kingdoms and countries once they sensed that the British flag was waning.

The leaders of India's independence movement convinced, coerced, bribed, threatened a whole lot so that they remained with India as a whole when british left.

And after British left, there were still scores left who had to be cajoled and threatened before they agreed to merge with India.

Even after all of that military means had to be used in a few cases before they joined with India.

It was not the benevolence of British, but the determination of Indians.

These are all minor details.

People with a fixed mindset don't let facts much bother their mind.