British delegation set to visit Taiwan

[MH.Yang]

What for? Is it for accessing the Mediterranean Sea?
Can't you replace those ports with Syrian and Lebanese ports?
Both Syria and Lebanon are friendly towards Russia and Iran and will welcome you happily.

1. In May this year, the Chinese and Syrian govts signed an agreement on investment and reconstruction of Syria. China will invest in ports in Syria, but it will take time.

2. China's B&R plan mainly passes through Iran, Turkey, Syria and Saudi Arabia. Not through Lebanon.

3. Piraeus port in Greece, Haifa new port and Ashdod port in Israel are controlled by Chinese capital. Although China supports Palestine, the Israeli govet and officials have never touched the Taiwan issue. China will not refuse to invest as long as it does not touch the Taiwan issue.


B&R

 

[tower9]

Threats don’t work these days, concrete action does.

Sadly, nothing will happen…..

If China was smart, they’d use this visit as a pretext for selling a huge arms package to Argentina. Sell them stealth fighters and destroyers at a cheap discount. Maybe even talk about giving them nuclear weapons.

 

[bbccdd1470]

Meh, this was predictable after the deep state’s operation to send Pelosi to Taiwan. The West is desperately trying to use Taiwan as fodder just like Ukraine.

China would be stupid to start war over this as long as Taiwan doesn’t declare independence. The trajectory is on China’s side so that is the dynamic of the situation.

Yes, even a normal person can see through that. Except it is like people keep spit on your face, you lose physically nothing but feel humiliated. Thing is China should grip this opportunity tight, turn into its own benefits like what is it now.

I see other posters said China's actions are just symbolic and nothing else, which is very short sight. Taiwan is now basically losing their control over their sea and airspace (sovereignty) , China will now do surveillance and exercise or blockage in those area regularly (who will come to visit your country if your flight can be cancel without notice). Those economic sanctions will further weaken their economy and make the people suffer more especially at the time like this when inflation is going crazy.

 

[khansaheeb]

Chinese govt are issuing more threats.

Chinese ambassador warns British MPs against visiting Taiwan

Zheng Zeguang spoke of ‘severe consequences in China-UK relations’ if politicians go to island

www.theguardian.com

The final insult that provoked the panda?

 

[tower9]

Yes, even a normal person can see through that. Except it is like people keep spit on your face, you lose physically nothing but feel humiliated. Thing is China should grip this opportunity tight, turn into its own benefits like what is it now.

I see other posters said China's actions are just symbolic and nothing else, which is very short sight. Taiwan is now basically losing their control over their sea and airspace (sovereignty) , China will now do surveillance and exercise or blockage in those area regularly (who will come to visit your country if your flight can be cancel without notice). Those economic sanctions will further weaken their economy and make the people suffer more especially at the time like this when inflation is going crazy.

This is why I think China’s leadership is autistic.

Instead of just getting pissed and drilling around Taiwan, why don’t you hit the UK in areas they are nervous about? Why not arm Argentina? They want to get the Malvinas back.

 

[khansaheeb]

It seems the British have forgotten how to talk to China.

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We cannot do this. China has ports in Israel. We need Israeli ports.

China doesn't need Israeli ports but wants Israeli ports. Israeli is the only lever China has to persuade America to negotiate. China has to militarily support regional players against Israel :Syria, Lebanon , Iraq and Jordan and if necessary help instigate hostilities. Uncle Sam will fall to its knees for Israel and surrender a deal.

 

[MH.Yang]

China doesn't need Israeli ports but wants Israeli ports. Israeli is the only lever China has to persuade America to negotiate. China has to militarily support regional players against Israel :Syria, Lebanon , Iraq and Jordan and if necessary help instigate hostilities. Uncle Sam will fall to its knees for Israel and surrender a deal.

China does not need to negotiate with the USA through Israel, Israel is only a pawn, not a chess player, China and the USA will only use their strength for dialogue.

China is only interested in Israeli ports and money, and other things do not welcome Israelis to join.

 

[tower9]

China doesn't need Israeli ports but wants Israeli ports. Israeli is the only lever China has to persuade America to negotiate. China has to militarily support regional players against Israel :Syria, Lebanon , Iraq and Jordan and if necessary help instigate hostilities. Uncle Sam will fall to its knees for Israel and surrender a deal.

That’s why I think China’s leadership is truly autistic. These things are obvious but they don’t pursue them. Instead they take out their anger on Taiwan like how the west wants and it makes them look like a tyrannical bully. Whereas if they reciprocated and supported their enemy’s enemies then they’d get more effective results.

China does not need to negotiate with the USA through Israel, Israel is only a pawn, not a chess player, China and the USA will only use their strength for dialogue.

China is only interested in Israeli ports and money, and other things do not welcome Israelis to join.

Israel is hardly the pawn. It’s more the other way around.

 

[bbccdd1470]

This is why I think China’s leadership is autistic.

Instead of just getting pissed and drilling around Taiwan, why don’t you hit the UK in areas they are nervous about? Why not arm Argentina? They want to get the Malvinas back.

Well, I think China will retaliate UK through either economic or other means, think about it UK is not USA. Also I don't think USA will go unpunished this time (economy is the US weakest point), thing is just started.

 

[MH.Yang]

Well, I think China will retaliate UK through either economic or other means, think about it UK is not USA. Also I don't think USA will go unpunished this time (economy is the US weakest point), thing is just started.

Israel is just a pawn used by the USA to control Arabs.

Although they are all American pawns, Israel's status is indeed higher than that of Britain.

For example, the USA will command Britain to touch the Taiwan issue, but never let Israel touch the Taiwan issue.

 

[bbccdd1470]

Israel is just a pawn used by the USA to control Arabs.

I always think USA is controlled by the deep state, but is deep state equal to Israel that is something I don't know about.

 

[MH.Yang]

I always think USA is controlled by the deep state, but is deep state equal to Israel that is something I don't know about.

The Israelis seem to have an advantage, but in fact there are many crises.

Islamic countries in the Middle East can lose a hundred times, but Israel will perish if it loses once. And the decline of the USA will also lead to the destruction of Israel.

If Israel equals deep state, it will not put itself in such a dangerous position.

My opinion is that Jewish plutocrats are not equal to Israel. Deep state is Jewish plutocrats, not Israel.

The plutocrats have no nationality, and the USA is just a puppet parasitized by them. If the USA dies, they will change other puppets to continue to parasitize.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

China doesn't need Israeli ports but wants Israeli ports. Israeli is the only lever China has to persuade America to negotiate. China has to militarily support regional players against Israel :Syria, Lebanon , Iraq and Jordan and if necessary help instigate hostilities. Uncle Sam will fall to its knees for Israel and surrender a deal.

Why should China persuade the US?

We can sign a secret agreement. For example, I tolerate Pelosi to go to Taiwan. You tolerate my blockade and recovery of Taiwan. The reason is ~ we are G2.

Power is still everything.

I think we mainly need Mediterranean ports. Not a port in the Middle East.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

The final insult that provoked the panda?

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I really don't think China will care about a group of backward agricultural countries.

 

[UKBengali]

If China was smart, they’d use this visit as a pretext for selling a huge arms package to Argentina. Sell them stealth fighters and destroyers at a cheap discount. Maybe even talk about giving them nuclear weapons.

"Sell" is not possible as Argentina does not have the money.

Even if China gave all that stuff for free, I doubt that Argentina could afford to maintain that kit.