"Britain is like an old theme park sliding into the Atlantic compared to modern China." Former Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating

[Shotgunner51]

Typical Chinese Communist who thinks being a MOD makes him above the forum rules and he can abuse the forum rules and his position, this is not China

let me tell you one thing, this is a PAKISTANI FORUM, and we hold everyone accountable

so dont go running your mouth here because I am opening up a discussion with seniors about how and why a MOD can take sides in thread when forum rules clearly state this is not allowed

We see real Pakistani as friends that's why we come to PAKISTANI FORUM, but we look down on any individuals who cheerlead for their new found host countries in the west who are exactly the monsters bombing their Pakistani motherland killing their Pakistani countrymen, I hold that individual morally accountable, is that you?

So don't go running your mouth here blaming others for taking side as if you are real PAKISTANI, go start whatever you like, typical motherland-betraying THINK TANK.

 

[Piotr]

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let me tell you one thing, this is a PAKISTANI FORUM, and we hold everyone accountable
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What do you mean by "we" ? You declared yourselve to be British not Pakistani.

 

[aziqbal]

What do you mean by "we" ? You declared yourselve to be British not Pakistani.

should you not be more concerned about the Russian military build along the Poland border?

 

[Piotr]

should you not be more concerned about the Russian military build along the Poland border?

You didn't answer to my question instead you are trying to further derail this thread. No surprise.

 

[crankthatskunk]

I am not tying "rent-seeking" to only matters of land and property.

That is simply the most obvious glaring example to make the point easier to understand for people.

The U.K.'s primary way of acquiring (note, not generating, but acquiring) wealth is the requisition of wealth by financial rent-seeking from overseas people trying to hide their money from proper recompense.

The U.K.'s secondary way of acquiring (note, not generating, but acquiring) wealth is the hilariously corrupt property market driven primarily by property speculation.

The combination of these two things are the obvious reason why the U.K. doesn't have many other significant wealth generating activities (once you count the subsidies for such activities paid for by the first two levels of rent-seeking).

Once again despite changing tags now, you still not making a valid arguments. If property investments by foreigners anything to go by, then New York city is as bad as City of London.
I am certain that corrupt thugs from around the world, chose New York as much as they chose London to stash away their hidden wealth.

Productivity index of the world.
Ireland on the top at 139 points
USA 111
UK 102
France 101
Portugal 98.8
Spain 98.3
Belgium 98
Germany 96.8
Japan 96.8

Here you go, UK better than European countries and even Japan.
Where you gonna go now!!

 

[Communism]

Once again despite changing tags now, you still not making a valid arguments. If property investments by foreigners anything to go by, then New York city is as bad as City of London.
I am certain that corrupt thugs from around the world, chose New York as much as they chose London to stash away their hidden wealth.

Productivity index of the world.
Ireland on the top at 139 points
USA 111
UK 102
France 101
Portugal 98.8
Spain 98.3
Belgium 98
Germany 96.8
Japan 96.8

Here you go, UK better than European countries and even Japan.
Where you gonna go now!!

"Productivity" is simply profit per worker.

It doesn't calculate whether it is rent seeking or wealth creation.

Having Ireland on that list makes it obvious.

The United States still makes things, the U.K. makes absolutely nothing.

You change the subject every single time and keep trying to blame me for your own changing the subject.

It's so transparent.

If every single Imperial Subject stopped existing tomorrow, it would not negatively effect wealth creation globally.

You claim to know what "rent-seeking" is, but then show so blatantly that you know nothing about what "rent-seeking" is.

Don't bother trying to troll me again, you are now blocked due to being clearly willfully and purposefully not understanding the most basic concept of this conversation.

 

[Abid123]

fake Pakistani or hijacked Chinese account , which one is it ?

Can somebody please report this guy? This must be the 4th or 5th time this guy is accusing me of being a "fake Pakistani". Are you a bot?

The guy that accuses of being a "fake Pakistani" lives in UK. How ironic. The subcontinent had the largest economy in the world before the thieves from UK came. Amounting to almost 27% of world GDP,

Also I have simple question for you. Let see how real you are. If there was a war between UK and Pakistan whose side would you be on? Don't get it twisted.

 

[crankthatskunk]

"Productivity" is simply profit per worker.

It doesn't calculate whether it is rent seeking or wealth creation.

Having Ireland on that list makes it obvious.

The United States still makes things, the U.K. makes absolutely nothing.

You change the subject every single time and keep trying to blame me for your own changing the subject.

It's so transparent.

If every single Imperial Subject stopped existing tomorrow, it would not negatively effect wealth creation globally.

You claim to know what "rent-seeking" is, but then show so blatantly that you know nothing about what "rent-seeking" is.

Don't bother trying to troll me again, you are now blocked due to being clearly willfully and purposefully not understanding the most basic concept of this conversation.

Where did i change the subject! I am only responding to what you come up next. From one jump of taxes on properties to productivity, you have jumped the ship on every occasions.

By the way ignorance is a bliss, I absolutely know what Rent-Seeking is. I am Economic post Graduate from one of the best University. It is you who have used fake arguments all along, while I supported my arguments with ground facts.
Now the new allegation that USA produce things and UK produce nothing. Tell this to any intelligent person, and he would look at you with eyes wide opened in amazement.
When I introduced the ranking in the world , you change it again, in the process belittling Ireland.
Probably you think the same for Germany and Japan. You my friend are in deep deep mire, no wonder, you are talking about blocking.
Live in your ignorance bliss, why do I care.

 

[tower9]

Shiny and new doesnt mean its better. Majority of the cities that top quality of life rankings dont have skylines or shiny railway stations eg Vienna , Zurich , Munich etc. Alot of the chinese cities are extremely polluted , lack city planning amd probably does not have the same level of health/education available as it is to a british in UK.

UK standard of living is still miles higher than China. There is a reason why so many chinese immigrate there and not the other way round.

If you said this to me in 2005, I wouldn't bat an eye.

But it's simply not true anymore when you are talking about a lot of the higher tier urban areas of China. The infrastructure and planning in these cities are better than the UK and the GDP per capita when adjusted for PPP is actually comparable.

I would prefer death than to have to live in an open air concentration camp. ^^ You showed chinese cities to me before and it looks abhorrent for me. No culture, no class, no nature. It looks like a soulless and lifeless Dubai mall and outside you have living barracks. I believe we have totally different ways what we see as worthy to live in.

This is very close to where i live, the city name is Nafplio

Why would you think China, a country of 5000 years of civilization, would have cities with no culture? You are either being purposefully deceitful or just ignorant.

These cities look like they have no culture to you? Of course, you're just going to ignore any mass body of evidence presented to you and go off and keep spouting your hateful rhetoric. This is why I only consider you a hater and not a serious person.

 

[Beast]

you do realise Royal Navy has 7 x Hunter Killer Nuclear Submarines Astute Class+ 4 x SSBN of the Vanguard Class each one carrying 16 Trident missiles and Trident has done over 180 test fires since induction

meanwhile both China and Russia combined cannot reach the kind of firepower

those old Soviet submarines are not reliable and Chinese ones are not sea worthy

which is why UK can send its assets to both China and Russia while neither can send their assets anywhere close to UK

or in simple terms, we can reach you but you cant reach us

How many Chinese warship has RN sunk now since of your mighty RN warship arrived?

Just becos PLAN don't send warship to waste fuel at English channel doesn't means we don't have the capabilities to threaten UK. What has RN achieved with those trips? Why your mighty UK didn't recognised Taiwan independence?

Who is retarded now?
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Of course military secret in China is state controlled, it's privately controlled in your host country?

Sure go make a show, who use inflammatory language? You a THINK TANK?

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@The Eagle @waz @LeGenD

Please moderate this thread and take action against bad behavior.

 

[Beast]

Can somebody please report this guy? This must be the 4th or 5th time this guy is accusing me of being a "fake Pakistani". Are you a bot?

The guy that accuses of being a "fake Pakistani" lives in UK. How ironic. The subcontinent had the largest economy in the world before the thieves from UK came. Amounting to almost 27% of world GDP,

Also I have simple question for you. Let see how real you are. If there was a war between UK and Pakistan whose side would you be on? Don't get it twisted.

Well said, in PDF. There are too many of this overseas thrash who try give Pakistan a bad name. Living overseas contribute zero to lslamic Pakistan and pretend to do good for Pakistan despite working for their western christian and jews master.

@aziqbal @Khan_21

 

[lonelyman]

Why would i spend millions for a green card where my salary will be peanuts compared to where i am? Chinese treatment of muslims in xinjiang is nothing to be proud of. I wouldnt like living in such a place.

As for standard of living compre per capita , HDI , university rankings , social prosperity , health indicators and you will know who is ahead.


More highways/subways do not mean anything. Like I said before majority of the cities with highest quality of life are not shiny. Chinese cities atleast the modern ones look ugly to me. No originality just skylines. Your quality of life is not even better than countries like turkey or malaysia.

Rich in China get out first thing in the morning along with their families to US/UK /Canada/Australia.

The chinese make up most numbers for cyprus and portugese citizenship by investment programmes.

CCP propaganda will not work for me. Improve your treatment of xinjinag muslims and then come talk. Thank us for allowing you to express freedom of expression here on PDF because you dont give the same to the uighuyrs.

I dont live in UK but even I know UK per capita is $42K and China just passed 10. So thats more than 4 times. Simple google search

Talking about brainwash, the actual killers are admired, grow a spine
yes yes, USA and uk treatment of Muslims is something you are very proud of

Shiny and new doesnt mean its better. Majority of the cities that top quality of life rankings dont have skylines or shiny railway stations eg Vienna , Zurich , Munich etc. Alot of the chinese cities are extremely polluted , lack city planning amd probably does not have the same level of health/education available as it is to a british in UK.

UK standard of living is still miles higher than China. There is a reason why so many chinese immigrate there and not the other way round.

good luck living in the past

 

[Abid123]

DF-100
2000-3000 km

DF-26
5000 km

DF-21D
1500 km

From China with no love. Meet DF-100, DF-26 and DF-21D. A couple of these and "bye bye" Queen Elizabeth carrier.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

It'll be a great injustice to compare China with Britain.

Britain is a fully developed, super high-tech, advanced nation.
China is a developing nation. It has yet to be fully developed.

Yes, people get impressed with everything new and shiny that China puts up these days but this is what Britain was putting up decades or even a century ago. So, what will China's current infrastructure look like in a few decades? Will it still be shiny as today?

The most important thing which is yet to be seen is that by the time China is fully developed and Chinese people are well off, will the country remain unified as it is today? I believe China still has many societal changes, experimentations yet to go through.

Also, despite China looks new and shiny, billions of people from the developing world dream of migrating to the Britain. Nobody wants to go to China. Why?

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

... Why not learn from your neighbours Germany after world war how they developed and reset their mind set. ...

Germany had tens of thousands of British forces on its territory between 1945-2020, providing a security umbrella.

While the US provided billions after world war two so Germany could stand back up on its feet again.

Also...

London Agreement on German External Debts - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org