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Brig (retd) Ijaz Shah has been appointed as Minister of Interior

Also after 10 years of “civilian supremacy”, the excuse for not having power has been extinguished.
 
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I’m talking about retired not in service. There’s a difference. Having military coups and having retired officers participate in the states politics are two different things.

So a man who oversaw torture of his citizens and asked questions on behalf of foreign agents and who is complicit in the pain and suffering of innocent Dr Afiya and countless death of pukhtoons, Baluch and lawers is redeemed now that he has retired?.

Is that what you are saying?.
 
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Going by that logic why did he not sent his men to Iran?

Because Iran would've whooped his a$$. How are you lacking the point here? He was made for weak countejs vulnerable to invssions. Where US could actually win. Iraq Syria Libya etc
 
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So a man who oversaw torture of his citizens and asked questions on behalf of foreign agents and who is complicit in the pain and suffering of innocent Dr Afiya and countless death of pukhtoons, Baluch and lawis redeemed now that he has retired?.

Is that what you are saying?.

Musharraf was americas man. But he wasn’t retired now was he? He did a coup. I’m talking about officers that did their job while in service then retiring and joining politics is an asset.
 
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I wish the gentleman slow and painful death, I hope if there justice in the kingdom of Allah then musharraf is an incinerator in hell.

Though I never wish death to anyone, but Mushi badmash is the biggest criminal that pakistan ever had as a ruler, he was a midget who just became a dictator due to stupidities of nawaja ganja. Mushi badmash has really done irreversible damage to pakistani society, he opened so many fronts against all sorts of pakistanis, be it people of FATA, Baloch and many many more. His damage to the paksitani society is more than the combined damage of rulers before him since the creation of pakistan. All the problems including death of 70000 pakistanis since 2001 are due to him. But people here conveniently overlook his illegitimate tenure and put the blame of current pakistani crisis only on previous two governments of pmln and ppp, yes they were bad but think what they inherited from a POS like Mushi, they inherited daily bomb blasts in almost all important cities of pakistan, attacks on military installations, rise of religious militants in Swat and FATA, the rise of militants in Balochistan and ethnic cleansing of punjabi muslims in Quetta that no one even talks. Even today 12 punjabi muslims have been isolated from a bus and killed on the spot by baloch militants. We never had any such incident in Balochistan before this POS mushi badmash came into power and started suppressing Balochs and they put all the blame on punjabi muslims and he made punjabi muslims the scapegoats and we are taking the brunt of that POS mushi policies.
 
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Though I never wish death to anyone, but Mushi badmash is the biggest criminal that pakistan ever had as a ruler, he was a midget who just became a dictator due to stupidities of nawaja ganja. Mushi badmash has really done irreversible damage to pakistani society, he opened so many fronts against all sorts of pakistanis, be it people of FATA, Baloch and many many more. His damage to the paksitani society is more than the combined damage of rulers before him since the creation of pakistan. All the problems including death of 70000 pakistanis since 2001 are due to him. But people here conveniently overlook his illegitimate tenure and put the blame of current pakistani crisis only on previous two governments of pmln and ppp, yes they were bad but think what they inherited from a POS like Mushi, they inherited daily bomb blasts in almost all important cities of pakistan, attacks on military installations, rise of religious militants in Swat and FATA, the rise of militants in Balochistan and ethnic cleansing of punjabi muslims in Quetta that no one even talks. Even today 12 punjabi muslims have been isolated from a bus and killed on the spot by baloch militants. We never had any such incident in Balochistan before this POS mushi badmash came into power and started suppressing Balochs and they put all the blame on punjabi muslims and he made punjabi muslims the scapegoats and we are taking the brunt of that POS mushi policies.
musharaf had no future perspective and was mad with power he thought he could control everything with shear force so much that he forgot that he was actually exercising on pakistanis,which led us to this point.
 
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musharaf had no future perspective and was mad with power he thought he could control everything with shear force so much that he forgot that he was actually exercising on pakistanis,which led us to this point.

The worst thing is the situation in balochistan today, there is ethnic cleansing of punjabi muslims going on there because baloch think Akbar Bugti was killed by them when it was musharraf who did that heinous crime. I remeber there were so many families from our Gujranwala living in Quetta in 80s and 90s , we used to call them Quettay walay in our neighborhood. When they used to have weddings , they used to come back to Gujranwala and sometimes Baloch and Pashtun guests from Quetta used to accompany them in their wedding events in our neighborhood. I still remember on such wedding event in 1992 when pashtun guest girls came to a wedding of one Quettay walay punjabi muslim family of our neighborhood in Gujranwala and they danced on Khuda Gawa movie songs of Amitabh bachan "rab ko yaad karun ek faryad karun", it is still fresh in my mind. And what is the situation now there is ethnic cleansing of punjabi muslims going on in Quetta and Balochistan since last 13 years and most of the punjabi muslim families have already left quetta due to safety reasons. And who has brought this genocide on punjabi muslims in balochistan, one and only mushi badmash and his policies against baloch sardars in balchistan, we punjabi muslims never had problems with saradari system of balochs but mushi had and made it an ego issue and killed akbar bugti in 2006, the brunt of which pakistan is still facing to this day.
 
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Though I never wish death to anyone, but Mushi badmash is the biggest criminal that pakistan ever had as a ruler, he was a midget who just became a dictator due to stupidities of nawaja ganja. Mushi badmash has really done irreversible damage to pakistani society, he opened so many fronts against all sorts of pakistanis, be it people of FATA, Baloch and many many more. His damage to the paksitani society is more than the combined damage of rulers before him since the creation of pakistan. All the problems including death of 70000 pakistanis since 2001 are due to him. But people here conveniently overlook his illegitimate tenure and put the blame of current pakistani crisis only on previous two governments of pmln and ppp, yes they were bad but think what they inherited from a POS like Mushi, they inherited daily bomb blasts in almost all important cities of pakistan, attacks on military installations, rise of religious militants in Swat and FATA, the rise of militants in Balochistan and ethnic cleansing of punjabi muslims in Quetta that no one even talks. Even today 12 punjabi muslims have been isolated from a bus and killed on the spot by baloch militants. We never had any such incident in Balochistan before this POS mushi badmash came into power and started suppressing Balochs and they put all the blame on punjabi muslims and he made punjabi muslims the scapegoats and we are taking the brunt of that POS mushi policies.

We want a well thought out operation in Baluchistan, intelligence based but pro active, Afghan border completely sealed and cleansing to start to hunt down the mercenaries.

Bring jobs bring sense of hope and belonging, but pay back the bank roller with same coin, not Afghanistan though go for the snakes head go for south side of enemy and jab away.

More Baluch are in sindh and Punjab then actual Baluchistan.

Every Pakistani has a right to live and work in any corner of Pakistan, this incident is just a revenge for the drubbing delivered by the PAF, the pain,humiliation & loss of credibility.

You can rent an Afghan but not buy one that much is true, So why are we not renting, another force beside the Taliban perhaps.

We need to improve our vision and counter strategy.

The worst thing is the situation in balochistan today, there is ethnic cleansing of punjabi muslims going on there because baloch think Akbar Bugti was killed by them when it was musharraf who did that heinous crime. I remeber there were so many families from our Gujranwala living in Quetta in 80s and 90s , we used to call them Quettay walay in our neighborhood. When they used to have weddings , they used to come back to Gujranwala and sometimes Balochi and Pashtun guests from Quetta used to accompany them in their wedding events in our neighborhood. I still remember on such wedding event in 1992 when pashtun guest girls came to a wedding of one Quettay walay punjabi muslim family of our neighborhood in Gujranwala and they danced on Khuda Gawa movie songs of Amitabh bachan "rab ko yaad karun ek faryad karun", it is still fresh in my mind. And what is the situation now there is ethnic cleansing of punjabi muslims going on in Quetta and Balochistan since last 13 years and most of the punjabi muslim families have already left quetta due to safety reasons. And who has brought this genocide on punjabi muslims in balochistan, one and only mushi badmash and his policies against baloch sardars in balchistan, we punjabi muslims never had problems with saradari system of balochs but mushi had and made it an ego issue and killed akbar bugti in 2006, the brunt of which pakistan is still facing to this day.

Relax nothing before Pakistan, what has happened has happened, we move on but we want accountability and justice from top to bottom.

Baluch are Patriotic Pakistanis never doubt that, Baluchistan is not just Baluch, it’s vastly populated by Pukhtoons so good numbers of my tribe reside there too, there had never been serious ethnic issues.
 
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So a man who oversaw torture of his citizens and asked questions on behalf of foreign agents and who is complicit in the pain and suffering of innocent Dr Afiya and countless death of pukhtoons, Baluch and lawers is redeemed now that he has retired?.

Is that what you are saying?.
How is Afiya innocent and wasn’t she arrested in Afghanistan? What does Ijaz Shah have to do with that and which innocent’ Pakhtun & Baloch did he cause suffering to?

And if there is any merit to these allegations, he should be prosecuted for any crimes he committed. Without a conviction, these are just allegations.
 
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He is good choice hot vast experience in interior affairs
 
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