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Depressing but sadly your probably right.Assad stays,Assad goes,there is no more Syria.It's just a human catastrophy where the wicked will still prey on the weak regardless of the regime for years to come.Various groups will fight each other in Mad Max decorum of what was once Syria.
Sp 80% with tanks, artillery and air force are losing vs 20% with light weapons?The war in Syria is not about Shia versus Sunni. It is about secular Baathists versus Islamists. 80% of Syrians are Baathists, 20% are Islamists. You can see the dense population centers are all Baathist controlled. Islamists are mainly in the north near Turkey, the south near Jordan, the east near Anbar.
Sp 80% with tanks, artillery and air force are losing vs 20% with light weapons?
hazzy is that you?
Along with Iran.That's a stupid idea, because the only one bleeding are Syrians.
Along with Iran.
You guys invested like billions in Syria, at the end a few terrorists came and burned all your investments.
But incompetence runs in your blood. I hope the Israelis and the Americans bring you out of your misery.
Along with Iran.
You guys invested like billions in Syria, at the end a few terrorists came and burned all your investments.
But incompetence runs in your blood. I hope the Israelis and the Americans bring you out of your misery.
Im sure most pakistanis will also Laugh their *** out reading this.. I think Turkey should make Pakistan its national security adviser, Pakistan sure has alot of experience to share/teach Turkey on such 'moderate rebels'.
Meeh... its ironic how you perfectly describe Assad clans actions in 90s where they supported pkk.Turkey will learn it the hard way, just like Pakistan did. Instead of mediating the conflict, they have taken an active part to overthrow a sovereign neighboring state by supporting hardcore Jihadis. Thats as dangerous as it is foolish. They've exposed themselves to severe security threats (in the long term)
Meeh... its ironic how you perfectly describe Assad clans anction in 90s where they supported pkk.
Talking about long term security threat.
I admit our FP is going wrong, i always said that if you remember but i dont understand why everyone is taking Pakistan as an exsample in this sutiation, Its a whole another country in a different environment.Your support of takfiris is on a whole different magnitude than whatever support Assad gave to PKK, they cant be compared. The only thing ironic is that Turkey enjoyed great relations with Syria. It had a great foreign policy success in mediating between conflicts and actors. Probably as good as Iran-Syria relations at the time, with Turkey getting good share in the Syrian economy.
But now what you have is an implacable enemy state on your southern border. This in and of itself is bad, but then there is other security threats (ISIS, Nusrah). Nusrah et al may leave you alone now but can quickly turn the table. I refer to Pakistan case. They used to have strong central government and security apparatus (like Turkey) to swiftly deal with terrorists. But after supporting taliban and other elements that eroded. They are every day regretting their policies in Afghanistan.
And it is also particularly troublesome for Turkey, because Syria is a direct neighbor with a long border.
This is not how "zero problems with neighbors" was supposed to pan out.
I admit our FP is going wrong, i always said that if you remember but i dont understand why everyone is taking Pakistan as an exsample in this sutiation, Its a whole another country in a different environment.
Turkish army is more than capable to take care of any rag tag terrorist, Isis is threatening Turkey since years but no action so far except the hostage crisis to keep Turkey out.
And lets say Isis somehow manages to attack Turkey which wont happen anyway, NATO is obligated to defend in such a scenario, there goes your Pakistan analogy.
And about support, well Hafez supported pkk and Turkey is supporting fsa, tit for tat, one has to ask why they supported pkk in the first place, it was a stupidity in astronomical scale that made us clear that we wont see a friendly Syria as long as Assads have the control there.
But Turkey should go back to its previous policies of mediation.