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#Breaking: Trump de-certifies Iran nuclear deal, announces more sanctions against Iran

@AmirPatriot I expect the nuclear deal will stay intact. Besides USA all the other powers will remain cool with the deal and so will USA.

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However what is happening here is the terms of the deal are being re-neogotiated.

Not really renegotiated, more like the US is making unilateral demands which no-one will support.

I think Iran is also responsible for this situation.they keep firing rockets tested new missiles.how can you test a missile when America asked you to stop? Iran just don't want to learn.iran should realize now that Arabs will never attack them so they should stop testing missiles or at least test it secretly.usa published entire photos of their new missile test several times.how can you stop Trump in this situation? Arab is not enemy,irans true enemy is only saudia Arabia and they can fight each other as much as they want but pls stop testing missiles.do trade.if you want missiles, make them in secret storage facilities.

You don't get it... the US don't want us to have missiles at all, every time we test our missiles is like we are spitting in their face... We have to test our missiles to improve them and improve our defence, and we don't compromise on our defence.
 
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Iran was in sanctions for previous 40 years. More tougher then anything now. Does that mean Iran lost something economically?
Dude, how can you even say Iran didn't lost anything economically? Last time I checked Iran GDP per capita and even nominal GDP hasn't changed drastically since the 80s compared to its peers like Turkey or even Saudi Arabia. Iran has lagged behind both of these countries which shouldn't have been the case at all.

Iran should be as wealthy(if not more wealthy) than gulf states countries to be honest. In fact Iranians standard of living should be among the best on the globe at par with not only gulf states/Israel but even the West, giving Iran has one of the largest oil and gas reserves on the planet ( I think Iran is in the top 4). However , it is not the case, there is still alot of brain drain from Iran to the West, Iranians still try to migrate abroad for a better life(there are millions of Iranians who have migrated this way since the revolution). These youths should have been the ones to build and change Iran into a major country, but many of them are still migrating abroad for a better life or even asking for asylum. This shouldn't have been the case . It's really unfortunate.
 
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I think Iran is also responsible for this situation.they keep firing rockets tested new missiles.how can you test a missile when America asked you to stop? Iran just don't want to learn.iran should realize now that Arabs will never attack them so they should stop testing missiles or at least test it secretly.usa published entire photos of their new missile test several times.how can you stop Trump in this situation? Arab is not enemy,irans true enemy is only saudia Arabia and they can fight each other as much as they want but pls stop testing missiles.do trade.if you want missiles, make them in secret storage facilities.

First of all there is nothing regarding Iran missile program in JCPOA whatsoever, even the latest UNSC resolution just calls upon Iran to not test missiles that are designed to be capable of carrying a nuclear warhead which as far as it is a request it is not mandatory and 'cause we don't possess nuke the case is closed. So Iran missile program isn't against none of the international laws or norm and completely fits to our obligations, therefore any attempt to scrap the deal by the excuse of missile program while IAEA has certified Iran fully compliance to the nuclear deal for 8 times is lame and unacceptable.
The US even has not adhered to the text of the deal let alone the spirit of the deal by putting sanctions and preventing Iran trades and business now trying to sabotage the deal by something that isn't even mentioned in the deal.

And why should we listen to a country that has history of military coup in Iran, invasion, war and regime change, cyber attack? and has occupied 2 of Iran's neighboring countries? and talk about military option? and sell 400 billions $ worth of weaponry to regional countries that were behind longest war of last century imposed on Iranian??

Maybe one day America would ask us not to defend our country, you recommend to listen?
 
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Iran already gained its lost money. Deals with airbus, boeing will remain intact. Iran will continue to export its oil in current rate. Not even the US want to jump back at $100/b.
That was also after the U.S lifted sanctions. It will be better if the deal stands to be honest.
 
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Dude, how can you even say Iran didn't lost anything economically? Last time I checked Iran GDP per capita and even nominal GDP hasn't changed drastically since the 80s compared to its peers like Turkey or even Saudi Arabia. Iran has lagged behind both of these countries which shouldn't have been the case at all.

Iran should be as wealthy(if not more wealthy) than gulf states countries to be honest. In fact Iranians standard of living should be among the best on the globe at par with not only gulf states/Israel but even the West, giving Iran has one of the largest oil and gas reserves on the planet ( I think Iran is in the top 4). However , it is not the case, there is still alot of brain drain from Iran to the West, Iranians still try to migrate abroad for a better life(there are millions of Iranians who have migrated this way since the revolution). These youths should have been the ones to build and change Iran into a major country, but many of them are still migrating abroad for a better life or even asking for asylum. This shouldn't have been the case . It's really unfortunate.

yeah right like there is nooooo brain drain in united kingdom:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...n-and-replaced-with-low-skilled-migrants.html

In any case I am not iranian. Iran members can have a better answer for you on this one. By "no loss in economy" I ment there were sanctions pre jcpoa. Local industries have successfully replaced anything imported. It will remain the case jcpoa or not jcpoa or cancellation of jcpoa or anything.

But .. i must laugh at you for comparing saudi with iran. A country with indigenous products, industries. A country who is currently making space rockets, turbines, cars to a country whos economy is based on oil.


That was also after the U.S lifted sanctions. It will be better if the deal stands to be honest.

I am also in favor of the deal.
 
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I love this picture ...
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Anyway, if Iran is smart then they won't do any violation which will endorse Trump speculations of violation. Right now all there trade agreements with different countries are in good standing.
 
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First of all there is nothing regarding Iran missile program in JCPOA whatsoever, even the latest UNSC resolution just calls upon Iran to not test missiles that are designed to be capable of carrying a nuclear warhead which as far as it is a request it is not mandatory and 'cause we don't possess nuke the case is closed.

You violated the spirit of the agreement.
 
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Was the last time you checked in the 80s?

Trump is a crazy guy , he is trying to intimidate Iran to push it to take actions that would lead to a war .
Iranian government should ask their crazy stupid conservatives to shut up temporarily and leave this matter to be handled by Iranian foreign minister .

You country has been spreading terrorism for the past 35 years , I think taking a break for 4 years until Trump end his term will not harm your country .
 
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Trump is a crazy guy , he is trying to intimidate Iran to push it to take actions that would lead to a war .
Iranian government should ask their crazy stupid conservatives to shut up temporarily and leave this matter to be handled by Iranian foreign minister .

You country has been spreading terrorism for the past 35 years , I think taking a break for 4 years until Trump end his term will not harm your country .
what terrorism?
 
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You violated the spirit of the agreement.
Can you show exactly to us which part of the spirit of the agreement violated by us and then tell me which part of the text of the agreement was not violated by USA ?
 
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Well, what did they think was going to happen after making a deal with the USA.

Some people like me and many others could predict these days easily but with corrupted politicians who are sending their children to west and have power and money ( Iranian money ) , we can't do anything ... currently , they are defending the deal and admire it and mock anyone of criticize this deal and its consequences ...

If it was me , I would make nukes 10 years ago and start a nuclear race in ME and North of Africa ...

Can you show exactly to us which part of the spirit of the agreement violated by us and then tell me which part of the text of the agreement was not violated by USA ?
the problem is that an agreement is 2 sided , so if only we do our part of the agreement and other sides ( USA _ keep violating this and we do nothing , then we clearly sending this message to other side " we are weak and we are afraid of you " ....
 
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First of all there is nothing regarding Iran missile program in JCPOA whatsoever, even the latest UNSC resolution just calls upon Iran to not test missiles that are designed to be capable of carrying a nuclear warhead which as far as it is a request it is not mandatory and 'cause we don't possess nuke the case is closed. So Iran missile program isn't against none of the international laws or norm and completely fits to our obligations, therefore any attempt to scrap the deal by the excuse of missile program while IAEA has certified Iran fully compliance to the nuclear deal for 8 times is lame and unacceptable.
The US even has not adhered to the text of the deal let alone the spirit of the deal by putting sanctions and preventing Iran trades and business now trying to sabotage the deal by something that isn't even mentioned in the deal.

And why should we listen to a country that has history of military coup in Iran, invasion, war and regime change, cyber attack? and has occupied 2 of Iran's neighboring countries? and talk about military option? and sell 400 billions $ worth of weaponry to regional countries that were behind longest war of last century imposed on Iranian??

Maybe one day America would ask us not to defend our country, you recommend to listen?

you have every right to defend yourself as a nation but why are you guys testing missiles? you can test it secretly.why there is no underground storage facility? and i don't understand americans at all.i only know that only america controls EU and entire world except russia and china.i can say that it's so complex.israel and saudia don't want iran to make nuclear missiles so they are pressing americans.i think iran should improve it's relations with other muslim countries.we know saudia and iran have long historic problems and we can't do anything about it.
 
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