#Breaking: Trump de-certifies Iran nuclear deal, announces more sanctions against Iran

[Hell hound]

Lol

No country in the world is allowed to make nukes.

So sir dobara try kren

dobara kiya try karna hay agar app ko esa lagta hay to bus phir iran ko equation say nikal dain app.

 

[El Sidd]

bngldsh.

Hilsa Hilsa Hilsa

dobara kiya try karna hay agar app ko esa lagta hay to bus phir iran ko equation say nikal dain app.

Iran ko equation me daal rahe hai hum backdoor diplomacy se.

Aap log News ghalat samajhte ho

 

[Śakra]

Hilsa Hilsa Hilsa

They planned this and got Trump to decertify the irani deal so they could no longer fish/import hilsa. It's always been about the hilsa

 

[El Sidd]

They planned this and got Trump to decertify the irani deal so they could no longer fish/import hilsa. It's always been about the hilsa

Dharmic Hilsa Rules

DHR

 

[AmirPatriot]

It's more complicated than that.
For one I believe it's still just a symbolic move(mostly due to his campaign promises) since Trump didn't ask Congress to re-impose sanctions against Iran immediately. Had he done that, then it would have been more serious and far-reaching.

He didn't say he will pull out of the deal either, he merely wants to add new requirements in the deal, since he thinks the deal wasn't robust enough and that it was more one sided in favour of Iran( depends on who you ask though)

Thirdly , if Trump asks Congress to re-impose economic sanctions and Congress complies then the E.U and even other powers would reluctantly have to follow suit (maybe not openly), since E.U and other world powers have farrrrrr more economic and financial stake in the U S than Iran(who is still a closed country for foreign Investors anyway). No country would want to jeopardize their economic interests in the world's largest market/economic power for a small country (economically) like Iran. So it will affect any big company in the world who has access to U.S market or links to U S financial market , and believe me it's hard to find a major country/company that doesn't. So these companies would have no Choice but to follow suit like they did in the past when Iran was under sanctions.

So we can only hope things won't get to this point. I think this deal can still work though, even with a tweek.

Boris supports the deal, that's all we need really

https://twitter.com/x/status/918910596912963586

 

[mohd497]

It's more complicated than that.
For one I believe it's still just a symbolic move(mostly due to his campaign promises) since Trump didn't ask Congress to re-impose sanctions against Iran immediately. Had he done that, then it would have been more serious and far-reaching.

He didn't say he will pull out of the deal either, he merely wants to add new requirements in the deal, since he thinks the deal wasn't robust enough and that it was more one sided in favour of Iran( depends on who you ask though)

Thirdly , if Trump asks Congress to re-impose economic sanctions and Congress complies then the E.U and even other powers would reluctantly have to follow suit (maybe not openly), since E.U and other world powers have farrrrrr more economic and financial stake in the U S than Iran(who is still a closed country for foreign Investors anyway). No country would want to jeopardize their economic interests in the world's largest market/economic power for a small country (economically) like Iran. So it will affect any big company in the world who has access to U.S market or links to U S financial market , and believe me it's hard to find a major country/company that doesn't. So these companies would have no Choice but to follow suit like they did in the past when Iran was under sanctions.

So we can only hope things won't get to this point. I think this deal can still work though, even with a tweek.

You are right about firms preference of US then iran but who will deny current prices of oil, investnents, deals that too in billions of dollars. Though iran is still in sanctions but better off then previously.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

But what about Chah Bahar? How is India now going to invest in the port?

Let's not give so much importance to few millions of investment in Chahbahar Port by Indians against Gwader Port. Chahbahar was never going to compete Gwader anyways. Coming to topic, well Trump is making a world a dangerous place and like in most of the Republican govts, a new war is surely shaping up. If it is against Iran, with the cooperation of GCC than Pakistan will also face adverse affects of it.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Boris supports the deal, that's all we need really

https://twitter.com/x/status/918910596912963586

Lol This our posh Buffon.
An idiot pretending to be a genius or a genius pretending to be an idiot? Nobody knows.
He's an embarrassment to have as foreign secretary though.

 

[El Sidd]

Lol This our posh Buffon.
An idiot pretending to be a genius or a genius pretending to be an idiot? Nobody knows.
He's an embarrassment to have as foreign secretary though.

Now you know how Pakistanis feel

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Republican govts, a new war is surely shaping up. If it is against Iran, with the cooperation of GCC than Pakistan will also face adverse affects of it.

This is good. The more that Trump goes wild. The more the real truth comes out. Our Arab loving Pakistanis will see in glorious technicolour how Saudia Arabia and GCC will line up with Trump like they are his gaybois. That from my perspective exposes the hypocracy of the religious lobby inside Pakistan. Who support KSA on one hand and decry US/Israel on the other hand. They will get to see their hated enemies [USA/Israel] in bed with their lovers [GCC].

Lol This our posh Buffon.
An idiot pretending to be a genius or a genius pretending to be an idiot?

The guy is a genius. He is a tad ecentric but sharp as a razor. Don't let his exterior fool you. I like him.

 

[mike2000 is back]

You are right about firms preference of US then iran but who will deny current prices of oil, investnents, deals that too in billions of dollars. Though iran is still in sanctions but better off then previously.

You seem to underestimate the trade and links between the U.S and other major world powers. Some billions dollars oil deals/investments in Iran is peanuts compared to the trade,links, interests that E.U, China,India, Japan, and other world powers have with the U .S. Iran is still relatively closed to foreign investors anyway, unlike say Gulf states who have a level playing field for foreign investor and among the best in terms of ease of doing business/attracting investors. These are things Iran has to sort out in the first place irrespective of sanctions or not. Since even without sanctions , there are barriers for foreign investors in Iran be it politically, financially, or in terms of laws/policies.

So if U.S confess goes ahead with re-imposing sanctions on Iran and any company involved with Iran, then believe me these companies/countries would have to follow or limit their involvement with Iran. So the thing here should be to hope Congress doesn't go ahead with sanctions.

The guy is a genius. He is a tad ecentric but sharp as a razor. Don't let his exterior fool you. I like him.

Sarcasm or?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

You seem to underestimate the trade and links between the U.S and other major world powers.

True. Compared to trade with USA the Iranian trade is worth peanuts and you would have to be bone stupid to keep the peanuts and lose the US largesse. To make matters worse Tehran in it's bizzare wisdom has spread out their fininancial leverage out across the entire world - therefore it is wafer thin. Had they instead placed all their "eggs" in one country - for example China. They might have cultivated a strong vested interest in China that could be counted on in hard times like right now. But now the mullahs have been spreading their cake from India, China, Russia, EU, USA and everything in between. So they have everybody but can't count on nobody.

Sarcasm or?

No really. I like him. Flawed but a genius. Reminds me of Churchill. Terribly flawed but still packs a punch. Right man waiting for the right time for his greatness to shine.

@AmirPatriot I expect the nuclear deal will stay intact. Besides USA all the other powers will remain cool with the deal and so will USA. However what is happening here is the terms of the deal are being re-neogotiated. In other words Americans will raise the price of this deal but expect Iran to still abide by the deal. In simple terms the Americans are playing dirty.

It';s like few years ago I sold my old car to a Slovak. We agreed on £5,000 and shook hands. Week later he came back with the car. He began to list faults in the car after having driven the car for over a week. He also began croaking on about unfair the deal was and how hard he had saved to gather the money to buy the car. He wanted to keep the car but he now wanted to re-neogitiate the terms of the original contact. You know what I told him - **** ***. But had be been Mike Tyson I might have been "tempted" to see the light of reason. This is exactly what is happening here. EU and rest will stick with the deal but USA will play wrecking ball to up the price for the deal.

 

[Hell hound]

Let's not give so much importance to few millions of investment in Chahbahar Port by Indians against Gwader Port. Chahbahar was never going to compete Gwader anyways. Coming to topic, well Trump is making a world a dangerous place and like in most of the Republican govts, a new war is surely shaping up. If it is against Iran, with the cooperation of GCC than Pakistan will also face adverse affects of it.

Competing gawadar was never a issue as i believe competition to be a healthy thing.main issue was deployment of Indian naval assets in the future.

 

[Arsalan 345]

I think Iran is also responsible for this situation.they keep firing rockets tested new missiles.how can you test a missile when America asked you to stop? Iran just don't want to learn.iran should realize now that Arabs will never attack them so they should stop testing missiles or at least test it secretly.usa published entire photos of their new missile test several times.how can you stop Trump in this situation? Arab is not enemy,irans true enemy is only saudia Arabia and they can fight each other as much as they want but pls stop testing missiles.do trade.if you want missiles, make them in secret storage facilities.

 

[mohd497]

You seem to underestimate the trade and links between the U.S and other major world powers. Some billions dollars oil deals/investments in Iran is peanuts compared to the trade,links, interests that E.U, China,India, Japan, and other world powers have with the U .S. Iran is still relatively closed to foreign investors anyway, unlike say Gulf states who have a level playing field for foreign investor and among the best in terms of ease of doing business/attracting investors. These are things Iran has to sort out in the first place irrespective of sanctions or not. Since even without sanctions , there are barriers for foreign investors in Iran be it politically, financially, or in terms of laws/policies.

So if U.S confess goes ahead with re-imposing sanctions on Iran and any company involved with Iran, then believe me these companies/countries would have to follow or limit their involvement with Iran. So the thing here should be to hope Congress doesn't go ahead with sanctions.


Sarcasm or?

Iran was in sanctions for previous 40 years. More tougher then anything now. Does that mean Iran lost something economically? Iran already gained its lost money. Deals with airbus, boeing will remain intact. Iran will continue to export its oil in current rate. Not even the US want to jump back at $100/b. Sanctions on IRGC, not sanctions on IRGC it doesn't matter. You don't want to invest in iran your lost. Iran have already shown it can live without sanctions.

US thinks of iran as its enemy. What actually US gives to its enemy:

- iraq
-afghnistan
-syria
-plane loads of cash
- airbus deal
- we are pulling out of JCPOA iran now you can enrich uranium all you want

LOL

oops i forgot to add turkey and qatar