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BREAKING: Saudi Arabia, UAE and Bahrain withdraw their envoys from Qatar!

MB doesn't incite violence, it is completely peaceful ideology with peaceful protests only. Al Jazeera reports the perspective that isn't seen elsewhere on Arabic media. Nothing is shameful about it, what's shameful is your propaganda campaign which is tying small clashes in Sinai between army and Egyptian bedioun with political scene in all of Egypt.
I was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood growing up, and most of my family are still supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, so please don't play this game on me... I know the Muslim Brotherhood very well, and i know their "peaceful" teachings, and their "peaceful" history. Not me, try someone else!!
 
I was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood growing up, and most of my family are still supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, so please don't play this game on me... I know the Muslim Brotherhood very well, and i know their "peaceful" teachings, and their "peaceful" history. Not me, try someone else!!

You were a member? :lol:

What's wrong with them? Why don't you stay and help reform the MB for the better? They are educated people.
 
You were a member? :lol:

What's wrong with them? Why don't you stay and help reform the MB for the better? They are educated people.
There was no hope to begin with!! The group is destroyed for good. They lost the support of the people during their one year in power. They can't survive without that support. No, they are not educated people. They rely on the support of the poor and the uneducated actually. People who call for FGM, chopping people hands, lashing, and discrimination based on sex, and religion are not educated in my book.
 
There was no hope to begin with!! The group is destroyed for good. They lost the support of the people during their one year in power. They can't survive without that support. No, they are not educated people. They rely on the support of the poor and the uneducated actually. People who call for FGM, chopping people hands, lashing, and discrimination based on sex, and religion are not educated in my book.

They don't, MB is an moderate organized group made up of many members of the Egyptian society or any society for that matter. Loo at them in Tunisia, they made history with the constitution recently. I don't know where you're gettin this stuff, and we all know during 73 war the MB was fighting Israel when it tried getting near Cairo there was resistance. Egypt is united for the most part but they don't know what to think right now, lots of MBA members are universitt students as well.
 
They don't, MB is an moderate organized group made up of many members of the Egyptian society or any society for that matter. Loo at them in Tunisia, they made history with the constitution recently. I don't know where you're gettin this stuff, and we all know during 73 war the MB was fighting Israel when it tried getting near Cairo there was resistance. Egypt is united for the most part but they don't know what to think right now, lots of MBA members are universitt students as well.
:undecided:. Are you serious about the bold sentence ?
Also, the Muslim Brotherhood in Tunisia are different than the ones in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt are Salafis and Qutobies.
 
:undecided:. Are you serious about the bold sentence ?
Also, the Muslim Brotherhood in Tunisia are different than the ones in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt are Salafis and Qutobies.

MB and salafis hate each other, you know that better than I do. Especially after Al Noor party stabbed them in their backs.
 
I don't think the Qataris are willing to give up the MB - which doesn't pose a threat to us - but Algeria is among the countries which is facing an existential threat from the MB.

Until the US gives up supporting the MB, things will not turn for good.

I don't understand why are you people asserting race into everything even politics. Thankfully, we aren't the type of people who are historically, culturally, and religiously defeated, nor have we been crushed, conquered, converted, and above all blessed by the sword. Whenever a given country puts race before its national interests, things don't end up well.

Take the Khomeini massacre for example. Right after the so-called " Islamic " Revolt Khomeini killed as many as 30 thousands Iranians for nothing but their disagreement on how should he run the country. Even during the Shah's days, Iran didn't do any better, the Shah butchered and slaughtered everyone who got into his way. Similarly, the Iranians didn't do any better these days whilst dealing with their own issues. Tens of people were shot dead during the Green Revolt by the Revolutionary Guards. Ironically, most of those who shot Iranian civilians were either Lebanese or Palestinians.

By the same token, the MMK as well as Jaish Al-Adil have never been merciful while dealing with the Iranian Regime. The latter has recently taken the responsibility for killing 14 Iranian Boarder Guards.

Now, beside on the claim you made regarding the GCC States, that they're killing one another, I wonder what would you say about the tens of thousands of Iranians who have been killed by their own fellow countrymen?

Yes, they did. The Iranian Gov't went ahead, threatening to sue the Russians:
Russia and Iran: Heading for divorce court? — RT Russian politics

Regardless of the rants by Iranians at Russia, the Russians could have cared less about what Iran is going to do about its lawsuit:

No plans to supply Iran with S-300 systems – Putin's press secretary — RT Russian politics


Having a civil disagreement is a normal code of conduct in the art of diplomacy.

With the response and the claims about GCC countries killing each other, I hardly think that we are talking to grown-ups. :lol:

Not the average Iranian! A country which failed to protect its diplomats in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Yemen is a country that doesn't deserve to exist. You may added up the border incidents as well.

I never did explode a bubble. As a matter of fact, All modern terror groups are so grateful for Iran to introduced suicide bombings.

Not at all, We don't lash ourselves or blow up people or consume Karabla's muds!.

It should have the least of your worries, just make sure you won't come around.

my friend , i appreciate the article of non-sense you wrote , but seriously ! do you read the trash you write ?

i mean i've got a life and i dont wanna write articles just to prove you wrong

good luck in real life ! a real life of being mere consumer in an oil-dependent , technologically poor and scientifically retarded terrorist regime

good luck my friend .
 
MB and salafis hate each other, you know that better than I do. Especially after Al Noor party stabbed them in their backs.
Muslim Brotherhood teachings are Salafi by nature. Different political groups, but teachings are similar.
 
Egypt Withdraws Ambassador From Qatar
CAIRO — Egypt on Thursday became the fourth Arab state in two days to pull its ambassador from Qatar over its support for Islamists around the region, including the deposed Egyptian president, Mohamed Morsi, and his supporters in the Muslim Brotherhood.

After the withdrawal of envoys from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, Egypt’s statement formalizes a breach between Cairo and Doha that began shortly after the military ouster of Mr. Morsi last summer. Its move adds to Qatar’s sudden isolation in the region and at the same time reinforces the alliance binding Egypt’s new military-backed government to the other oil-rich Persian Gulf monarchies.

Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain were deeply apprehensive about the potential influence on their own populations of either democratic or Islamist leadership in Cairo. Since the Egyptian military removed Mr. Morsi, the conservative gulf states have donated billions of dollars to help support the new government, just as Qatar had spent heavily to try to prop up the previous Islamist one.

Egyptian state news media declared Thursday that most of the Arab world had now repudiated Qatar, asserting that Doha must now decide whether it would stand on the side of “Arab solidarity” or against it.

Calling the withdrawal of the five envoys a beginning attempt “to correct the path of the Qatari government,” the Egyptian government asserted that “Qatar’s problem is not with us but with the majority of the Arab countries,” state media reported. Alluding to its continuing struggle to suppress the now-outlawed Islamist opposition — characterized by the new government as terrorists — Egypt said Qatar must now choose between supporting Egypt against “the grave challenges it is facing,” or “stand on the other side and bear the consequences.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/07/w...mbassador-from-qatar.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

 
]my friend , i appreciate the article of non-sense you wrote , but seriously ! do you read the trash you write ?

We don't expect people to read or understand or comprehende our response. But since you demanded, there you have it. I'm sorry, but it isn't my fault that you lack the ability to produce a well-balanced response.


i mean i've got a life and i dont wanna write articles just to prove you wrong

You don't have to. After all, you aren't a native speaker of English and that will take you ages to come up with something to counter my response.


good luck in real life ! a real life of being mere consumer in an oil-dependent , technologically poor and scientifically retarded terrorist regime

Good luck for you too.

As long as an Iranian patient came to us seeking a treatment, I think it is fair to say that Iran has less to say about science and technology.

You didn't do any better in terms of oil dependance and technological advancement. Perhaps you might need to look into how the world is laughing at you for claiming to develop an indigenous fifth gen fighter. :lol:

my friend , i appreciate the article of non-sense you wrote , but seriously ! do you read the trash you write ?

i mean i've got a life and i dont wanna write articles just to prove you wrong

good luck in real life ! a real life of being mere consumer in an oil-dependent , technologically poor and scientifically retarded terrorist regime

good luck my friend .


We got them boy. :lol: Welcome to present

In Iran's case, it became more like of a habit. What would you say about the Banghazi attack as well? I wonder?


Iranian diplomat shot dead in drive-by shooting in Yemen in attack condemned as 'terrorist criminal act' | Mail Online
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iran diplomat shot dead in Iraq
Lebanon: Iran's embassy in Beirut hit by two explosions | World news | theguardian.com
1998 Iranian diplomats murder in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/08/01/229666.html
AFP: Iranian diplomat kidnapped, guard killed in Pakistan: police
 
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What a colossal theater. lol
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Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal bin Abdulaziz (L) and Kuwaiti First Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Sheikh Sabah al-Khaled al-Sabah (R) arrive to attend the 130th meeting of the Foreign Ministers of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) in Riyadh on March 4, 2014. (Photo: AFP- Fayez Nureldine)

By: Fouad al-Ibrahim [1]
Published Thursday, March 6, 2014

What is happening is far more than a spat and an ensuing withdrawal of ambassadors. It is a relentless war in every sense of the word, albeit a low-profile one. Neither side seems to be willing to make concessions or show flexibility. The result: The most serious crisis the Gulf Cooperation Council has witnessed so far, with repercussions that will affect the entire region, from Egypt to Syria, via Palestine and Lebanon.
Despite the fierce nature of the battle raging under the surface, the statements from the two sides were so far “softly worded.” A triple statement [2] by Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, and Bahrain was the opening salvo in the war that Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal had vowed to launch on his kingdom’s smaller neighbor Qatar, in the event its emir, Sheikh Tamim al-Thani, did not abide by the written pledge he signed in Riyadh on November 23, 2013, after mediation from the emir of Kuwait, Sheikh Sabah Al-Ahmad.

These measures included: recalling ambassadors; closing down land borders; preventing Qatari airliners from using Saudi airspace; and expelling Qatar from the GCC and the Arab League in agreement with Egypt.The pledge in question contained written promises that Qatar would stop backing the Muslim Brotherhood and giving the group’s leaders from Egypt and Saudi sanctuary in Doha; end support for the Houthis in Yemen; and refrain from doing anything detrimental to the stability of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the United Arab Emirates, for example by supporting individuals affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood or opposition groups seeking regime change in these countries.The wording of the joint statement was not too sharp, with a long introduction about the need for cooperation – a term that was repeated frequently throughout the text – before concluding with the decision to recall the three Gulf countries’ ambassadors from Doha.
The statement made public an element that was previously missing in the analysis of pan-Gulf relations, namely, the backdrop against which the Gulf security pact was established, with the aim of “agreeing on a path and approach…within the framework of a unified policy.” In other words, what is desired is to reestablish Saudi hegemony over the GCC, and this is exactly the issue that is at the heart of the dispute between Qatar and Saudi Arabia in particular.
The joint statement paused at the meeting held in Kuwait on February 17, 2014, under the auspices of Kuwait’s Emir Sheikh Sabah Al-Ahmad, attended by the emir of Qatar and the foreign ministers of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).
So what happened exactly during that meeting?
Gulf sources said that Saud al-Faisal seemed strained during the meeting, and was curt in addressing the Qatari head of state. Faisal made direct accusations against Qatar of threatening the security of Saudi Arabia and Egypt by backing the Muslim Brotherhood, claiming that Qatar had turned into a haven for and a supporter of anyone wishing to destabilize Egypt and the Gulf, including the Houthis in Yemen.
Faisal, in the same bellicose tone, read a list of punitive measures in the presence of the emirs of Kuwait and Qatar and GCC foreign ministers, to be implemented in the event Qatar did not abide by the pledge mentioned earlier. These measures included: recalling ambassadors; closing down land borders; preventing Qatari airliners from using Saudi airspace; and expelling Qatar from the GCC and the Arab League in agreement with Egypt.
Political sources close to Saudi Arabia blamed the former Emir of Qatar Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani for what happened, because of his support for the Muslim Brotherhood even after the impeachment of former President Mohammed Mursi. Doha was generally silent over the Saudi media escalation that preceded the decision to withdraw the ambassadors.
The emir of Kuwait had asked Riyadh to postpone the decision to implement punitive measures until his efforts to mediate and resolve the dispute are concluded. For their part, the Qataris did not want the dispute to come to a head, but at the same time, they rejected the logic of dictates meant to force Doha to alter its foreign policy, relations with other countries, and attitudes on major regional, Arab, and international issues.

This is what the toned-down statement issued by the Qatari government tried to convey, by framing the dispute in a specific scope. The statement said,
“The move made by the brothers in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Bahrain has nothing to do with the interests of the Gulf peoples, their security, and their stability, but is rather linked to differences over issues that exist outside the countries of the GCC.”
Worth paying attention to is the fact that the Saudi-Qatari dispute is not confined to the reasons stated in the joint statement. In truth, there are profound differences between the two dating back to at least 1913, when Abdul Aziz, founder of the modern Saudi state, decided to annex Qatar to the Ahsa province, after occupying it. Abdul Aziz did not recognize Qatar’s borders until two years later, under pressure from Britain.
Although an agreement over the borders was signed between Qatar and Saudi in 1965, the latter sent its military forces over the border in September 1992, and seized al-Khafous border post. After a military coup was thwarted in Qatar in 1995, the Qatari government revealed that the Saudi government was involved in collaboration with the Murra clan in Qatar. Hundreds of the clan’s members were stripped of their Qatari passports and many were deported.
There were intermittent periods of calm between Doha and Riyadh, followed by periods of tension. This happened for example when Qatari TV channel Al-Jazeera carried in 2002 a documentary about the history of Saudi Arabia, and interviewed Saudi and Gulf figures who explicitly criticized King Abdul Aziz. At the time, Saudi withdrew its ambassador from Doha, Hamad Saleh Taimi, for six years.
Normal relations between Riyadh and Doha were resumed after the former Qatari emir visited Saudi Arabia and met with the late Crown Prince Sultan in March 2008, and a new Saudi ambassador was dispatched to Doha. Before, during the period of estrangement between Saudi and Qatar, the latter forged broad alliances with Syria, Iran, and resistance movements in Palestine and Lebanon, and became an influential regional actor, brokering reconciliations in Lebanon, Yemen, Palestine, and elsewhere in the Arab world. This contradicted Saudi Arabia’s vision of itself as being the leader of the Gulf’s foreign policy.
At any rate, disputes erupted again between Riyadh and Doha, on the back of their divergent positions regarding the Israeli assault on Gaza between December 2008 and January 2009. Qatar wanted to convene an emergency Arab summit in Doha to produce a unified Arab position and put pressure on the UN Security Council to force the Israelis to end their aggression, but Saudi Arabia boycotted the summit.
In May 2010, relations improved again. The former emir of Qatar agreed to the Saudi king’s request to pardon a number of Saudis involved in the 1995 coup attempt.
With the start of the Arab Spring, what could be described as an alliance of necessity formed between Qatar and Saudi, and the rest of the GCC, to counter the repercussions of the popular protests, which began to get too close to the Gulf for comfort. Then with the outbreak of the crisis in Syria, Qatar and Saudi Arabia initiated a phase of unprecedented cooperation and coordination, in support of the Syrian opposition’s efforts to topple the regime. At the same time, Qatar supported the Muslim Brotherhood-led administration in Egypt, much to the chagrin of Saudi and the United Arab Emirates.
There are two things that perhaps best sum up the serious nature of the Saudi-Qatari dispute.

Bin Jassim allegedly said that Saudi Arabia would unravel at his hands, claiming that Qatar would one day seize the Qatif, an eastern province in Saudi Arabia. The first is a leaked phone conversation between Qatar’s former Foreign Minister Hamad bin Jassim with former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi in January 2011, in which they purportedly discussed the partition of Saudi Arabia. Bin Jassim allegedly said that Saudi Arabia would unravel at his hands, claiming that Qatar would one day seize the Qatif, an eastern province in Saudi Arabia. Bin Jassim also said that King Abdullah is only a front, and that the actual ruler was Saud al-Faisal, adding that after the king dies, Saudi would be partitioned. The former Qatari foreign minister described the regime in Saudi Arabia as “antiquated,” revealing that the U.S. and Britain had asked him to report on the situation in Saudi Arabia, and told him of their intentions to topple the monarchy there, albeit expressed fear of the alternative, which could be the undesirable Islamists.
The second is a provocative statement made by Saudi intelligence chief Bandar bin Sultan, who said Qatar was “300 people and a television channel, not a country.” The statement was made at a time when Saudi Arabia moved to take over the Syrian issue from Qatar and Turkey, and to plan and finance a military coup – with popular support – in Egypt on June 30, 2013, dealing a severe blow to Qatar’s ally, the Muslim Brotherhood. The new administration of Egypt subsequently broke with Qatar over its support of deposed President Mohammed Mursi and his Muslim Brotherhood-led regime.
The Saudi-Qatari dispute rose to new heights, especially after a Friday sermon delivered by Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who is close to the rulers in Doha, in which he railed against the Emirati position regarding events in Egypt after Mursi’s ouster. Subsequent Saudi threats did not work in dissuading Qatar from continuing its policy in Egypt, whose events Doha believes are a coup led by the military and backed by Saudi and the Emirates.
Now that Saudi, the Emirates, and Bahrain have implemented the first of their threats against Qatar, the latter is expected to respond by declaring its commitment to its pledge. If Qatar sticks to its guns, however, the other side is expected to retaliate further, and indeed, judging from the language of the Qatari statement, Doha does not seem to be caving in.
No doubt, Qatar faces immense challenges. But the small Gulf emirate has many cards that it can play in more than one place, for example by repositioning itself politically, and resolving differences with the countries it was once allied to. In the end, the unstable and rapidly shifting situation in the region and the world opens the door to many possibilities.
 
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After all, you aren't a native speaker of English and that will take you ages to come up with something to counter my response.

my friend , youre so young and hot headed . your blindness and nationalism makes you look like an idiot who posts non-sense

why should i "counter you" , who are u to be even considered a challenge ?

i'm so glad that majority of saudiz and other PG arabs are like u ! because when youre busy wrapping bomb around a car , we're sending sats to space , finding cure for AID Syndrome , building missiles capable of vaporizing riadh and .........

lets compare the iranian members to arab ones for example !!!

i'm a med student , resurgentiran is a neurologist , ostad & serpentine & s00r3na are engineers from one of the worlds best universities in iran , ..........................................................

oh man this is gonna be a long list !! forget it !!

BUT what abt you ? you and al-hassani and juba are no one but terrorist supporters who are obsessed with this site and always try to post rubbish material 24/7

i have nothing to add my friend
 

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