Breaking: Qassem Soleimani Confirmed Dead by Iraqi State Media

[Stryker1982]

Rest in peace. The Commander.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

3... the new appointed chief of al qudus force general ismail has a vast intelligence operational experience since he was looking after one or two arab countries but the most important country under his role was Pakistan, so pakistan must be careful

Pakistan has been under their radar for a long time, due three main reasons.

First, we have a large, radicalized Shia population which is loyal to Iran more than Pakistan. Currently probably 10% of our population. They have already been exploited to join radical Shia militias like Zanabiyoun in Syria, tasked with persecuting and murdering Sunnis.

Second, Balochistan in Iran is a Sunni majority area which share ethnic ties and origin from Pakistan. Iran has carried out many operations in this region but it is still largely lawless and underdeveloped. Although Pakistan does not entertain expansionist ideas, Iran accuses Pakistan of this out of fear. They have brought Indians into Chahbahar to commit terrorism on Pakistani Balochistan and are even supporting BLA terrorists who want to create an independent Balochistan including Iranian territory, but who only currently attack Pakistan and Pakistani Baloch.

Third, Iran's biggest fear in Afghanistan is coming to fruition. The Taliban are back and taking out Iran's agents and former NA allies. Iran fears Pashtoon unity on both sides of the Durand line as Pashtoons have occupied and conquered Iran in the past. For this reason, they want to weaken Pakistan and keep Afghans and Pakistanis at odds, which is the same goal as the US and India in Afghanistan.

 

[PakFactor]

This illiterate budoo doesn’t understand that China can take oil from Iran through Pakistan.china don’t need any Arab.

The Arabs have a superiority complex, their thought process revolve around the thought they run every thing due to the oil they pump out. Not knowing they are as you put it earlier just vessels to be pumped by others.

Besides Oil and Real Estate they have no economic value to the world — with the advent of new tech, Smart cars etc the world wouldn’t need them as much. Soon Russia with upcoming pipelines would slowly increase export and Middle East imports will taper off, but if you try and explain it to them they refuse to see the reality.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

The Arabs have a superiority complex, their thought process revolve around the thought they run every thing due to the oil they pump out. Not knowing they are as you put it earlier just vessels to be pumped by others.

Besides Oil and Real Estate they have no economic value to the world — with the advent of new tech,
Smart cars etc the world wouldn’t need them as much. Soon Russia with upcoming pipelines would slowly increase export and Middle Ease imports will taper off, but you explain it to them they refuse to see the reality.

That's all in your mind

 

[Melkor]

US is arming, funding and training the Kurds who have blown thousands of Turkish soldiers and civilians into pieces. Meanwhile you host US bases. Then you come here and talk about Iran lol.

1212 Turkish citizens have been annihilated by the Kurds between 2015-2019. The Kurds are receiving funds, arms, and training by your American masters that you host. But sure come here and brag about US killing an Iranian general in Iraq.

Mate... Who isn’t arming the Kurds these days. Not sure that the lack of us holding the US accountable is the same as your top soldier being bombed and you being powerless to respond. We’ve hit back at the PKK plenty. The world had a utter meltdown not so long ago about our operation against them the Iranian Government included. The one main difference is that we don’t chant death to America every 5 minutes and we don’t tweet BS like “you can’t do anything” and open ourselves to utter humiliation.

 

[kingQamaR]

That's all in your mind

With all that oil money with gods blessing all you’ve managed do with it. buy up useless haram hotels and pay exhorted land prices in London to build there housing flats for them. Be embarrassed you’ve achieved nothing nothing in engineering or tech industry of your own.

 

[Melkor]

Why? Turkey is not our enemy. Why should we care about what Turkey does in Syria. You should care about your American masters you host helping the Kurds annihilate 1212 of your countrymen between 2015-2019 meanwhile you continue to host the said masters. Then you come here and talk shit about an Iranian general killed in Iraq


You started it amk

We’ve leveraged a lot from the US over the years via Incirlik. Don’t downplay or ignore what a massive significance that has in our relationship with them not to mention ensuring the Russians don’t try anything. Their support of the PKK is infantile in the overall history of our relations. Iran has been licking European and Russian arse against us since the times of Shah Ismail if I remember correctly.

 

[ziaulislam]

Qatar is part of the GCC and their military is closely aligned to the GCC military command. Military exercises and intelligence are shared on a daily/weekly/monthly basis and Qatar already hosts the largest US base in the region (CENTCOM headquarters). The joint small Qatar-Turkish base is no threat for KSA and is a sitting duck. In fact Qatar does not pose a threat to KSA and never will or has. What this is about is complicated regime disagreements and foreign policy that this thread is not intended for.

All I can say is that negotiations are ongoing and that I will soon expect a breakthrough. The foreign minister of Qatar was in KSA not long ago. Remember that Qataris are basically Saudi Arabians. 99.9% of all the locals are originally from KSA, including the ruling family. They are our brethren and we consider each other as one people. This was never a people-people conflict, we always considered it a sham (the people).

Khashoggi was clearly a butched operation (probably they wanted to take him home to prevent him from using the Washington Post as a medium to attack KSA and convince him to stop) with the involvement of Saud Al-Qathani (not a popular figure among people, now luckily removed), anything else makes no sense, nor has KSA a history of killing regime critics, for starters Khashoggi was a patriot and far from an enemy, contrary to mainly Saudi Arabians in exile (Arab world and West) who are broadcasting filth from London, Washington DC., Paris etc.

Relations are not as bad even though they are not ideal. For instance KSA is not involved in Libya, we consider both sides to be equally bad and on loan and given the history of our Libyan brethren, they will never accept long-term foreign interference.

Problem is that Erdogan is aligned with the MB sect/organization and obviously it is hard to trust Erdogan 100% fully when the MB's goal is to remove every Arab regime and replace it with MB people. That is also where the Turkish-Egyptian hostility originates from. In the eyes of Egypt you are hosting wanted people/terrorists who are broadcasting from Turkey.

The MB will never gain power in the Arab world, even if the current regimes are removed (they will like any other regime) the people won't put the MB in power. It is a mostly Egyptian organization that has failed everywhere else even whey had democratic means to run for politics.

Erdogan has had a very erratic foreign policy in recent years. From a policy of no hostility and enemies to creating enemies left and right.

But yeah, no regime is perfect and they all commit mistakes, what is important is people to people relationship, history, civilizational, religious, linguistic, culture, custom etc. influences and simple geopolitics.

BTW speaking about Qatar, I celebrated their victory in the Asian Football Championship last January. Just like Qataris celebrated the Asian Champions League victory of Al-Hilal.

Recently we had a game in the Arabian Gulf Cup as well in Qatar with fans from both countries and zero problems.

I think that by 2020, unless foreign powers try to prevent this, a resolution will be found. That is my hope at least and that of every Saudi Arabian and Qatari that I know.

A very immature move by arab world to isolate qatar ..how can they compete if theh are going to fight on non issues..
Mean while iran took yemen and all of syria back and has eyes on bharain

 

[Akasa]

So? You step foot on foreign land thinking you own it, this is how you'll get sent back

I wonder how many of those carcasses Soleimani sent back in boxes. Probably all of them.

No one cares what happens in that private little world that exists only in your head. Since when did a joint naval exercise obligate China or Russia to defend an Iranian general in Iraq? But you'll get your wish - that talking orange tumour you call a president will invade Iran, and then China and Russia will turn it into a meat grinder you never get out of. Remember what Iran did to you in Iraq and understand that China and Russia will do it to you in Iran a thousand times worse. Just like they did back in Vietnam.

Ah, the bad old days are coming back.

Oh, and happy new year, "Sino"soldier. It's the first year of India's superpowerdom.

https://twitter.com/x/status/268147222116454401

Now that India has surpassed China and is challenging America, how do you feel?

Ah right, when out of arguments, always resort to attacks on myself and my supposed country of origin (it isn't India, by the way).

And we're still waiting for that "meat grinder" plan that the Chinese and the Russians have for us, even though both countries are oddly silent these days.

 

[mangekyo]

IRGC Rejects US Call for Proportional Response, Promises Severe Revenge for Gen. Soleimani
By
IFP Editorial Staff
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January 4, 2020 - 06:58


A senior Iranian military official says the United States should be awaiting severe revenge for the assassination of top Iranian commander Qassem Soleimani.



Deputy Commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Brigadier General Ali Fadavi said vengeance for the assassination of top Iranian General Qassem Soleimani is sure to take place.

“The Americans should be waiting for that severe revenge; that vengeance is not to be taken by Iran only. …The great resistance front covering a vast geographical area stands ready to take revenge, and that is sure to happen,” said the top commander.

“They resorted to such means as diplomacy this morning [Friday] and even told us ‘if you want to take revenge, do it in a way that’s proportional to what we did; but they cannot decide anything [for us],” he added.

“That will take place at the most opportune time and in the best manner possible,” he added.

General Fadavi underlined that all people around the world as well as many countries in the Middle East hate US officials.

“Soon we will see that the Americans will not be there in the region,” he said.

General Fadavi noted that the US has suffered defeats in the Middle East region.

“The Americans, with all their regional and trans-regional allies, suffered defeats in all cases in the West Asia region; these defeats were so big that they seriously began to think of resorting to official terrorists such as ISIS and al-Qaeda,” he noted.

 

[dani92]

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Rest in peace. The Commander.

Many people who took pictures with him got killed like jihad mughanyia, issam zahrddim, and many others. Imad mughanyia son in law was also killed.

IRGC Rejects US Call for Proportional Response, Promises Severe Revenge for Gen. Soleimani
By
IFP Editorial Staff
-
January 4, 2020 - 06:58


A senior Iranian military official says the United States should be awaiting severe revenge for the assassination of top Iranian commander Qassem Soleimani.



Deputy Commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Brigadier General Ali Fadavi said vengeance for the assassination of top Iranian General Qassem Soleimani is sure to take place.

“The Americans should be waiting for that severe revenge; that vengeance is not to be taken by Iran only. …The great resistance front covering a vast geographical area stands ready to take revenge, and that is sure to happen,” said the top commander.

“They resorted to such means as diplomacy this morning [Friday] and even told us ‘if you want to take revenge, do it in a way that’s proportional to what we did; but they cannot decide anything [for us],” he added.

“That will take place at the most opportune time and in the best manner possible,” he added.

General Fadavi underlined that all people around the world as well as many countries in the Middle East hate US officials.

“Soon we will see that the Americans will not be there in the region,” he said.

General Fadavi noted that the US has suffered defeats in the Middle East region.

“The Americans, with all their regional and trans-regional allies, suffered defeats in all cases in the West Asia region; these defeats were so big that they seriously began to think of resorting to official terrorists such as ISIS and al-Qaeda,” he noted.

I think the Americans want peace after they killed suleimani who killed many american soldiers instead of toppling the entire iranian regime.

 

[OldTwilight]

Many people who took pictures with him got killed like jihad mughanyia, issam zahrddim, and many others. Imad mughanyia son in law was also killed.


I think the Americans want peace after they killed suleimani who killed many american soldiers instead of toppling the entire iranian regime.

There wont be any peace ...

 

[kingQamaR]

as much as I try to condemn Americans actions. I’m still troubled with this Iranian generals purpose in Iraq spending time with rogue Iraqi militia against Iraqi citizens protesters! it can not never be okay for a foreign state to have it’s own regime vowing for power against Iraqi state?

 

[Alpha BeeTee]

The Arabian Peninsula is one area of the Arab world.

Pakistan's main importance for China is to act like a counterbalance to India which is China's biggest rival (potentially) in the neighborhood. We are talking about a country with a smaller economy than tiny UAE. Let us not get ahead of ourselves despite the nature of this forum.

Other than that China is mostly energy dependent on the GCC/Arab world and to gain inroads to Africa, Middle East, Western Asia and Europe, they need the key strategic location of the Arab world, which is of far greater importance than Pakistan, with all due respect.

Pakistan is important, but not anywhere near as important as the entire Arab world which far exceeds Pakistan in size, population, economy, resources and strategic location. Even the Chinese Muslims naturally gravitate towards the Arab world due to religious reasons alone hence communist China wanting to have religious ties that continue to this day of course strictly guarded within the Chinese context but it is nevertheless telling that they keep sending their religious clerics and people abroad to Arab nations to study Arabic and enhance business ties. This is mainly done by the Hui community.

They even have Arabic state TV channels.

In any case, it is complete and utter delusion to think that Gwadar will be a threat when Gwadar is a Chinese invention and the same Chinese wants to connect it with the already existing and much larger ports in the GCC/Arab world. For the goods to even reach Africa, Europe, West Asia etc. they need to travel though our waters and ports hence a natural symbiosis in the future if Gwadar becomes a success.

As a Pakistani, I agree with your analysis. Unfortunately, many Pak folks are blinded by nationalism and keep their eyes wide shut to the harsh realities. I personally think the only thing keeping us from calling shots in the world today is the pathetic and screwed economy. And unlike the Arabs, we weren't lucky enough to be born with a golden spoon in our mouth. Oil has done wonders for Arabs.
We had great pottential but ... ah!

 

[dBSPL]

Headline of Pro-Eurasianist Aydınlık: "All our martyr, all our security"

its shameful