Breaking: Putin warns West of “rapid and harsh” response from Russia if it crosses “red lines”

[Jobless Jack]

JOkes on US and NATO, because when RUssia boots up, LIKE NOW, NATO turns coward. cross Russia's red lines then!! if ur so bold, go ahead! dont talk tough on PDF.
like i tell people here, there's no bluff in military issues- you are either dominant or u will get your azz beat up if u dont back down.

with how many soldiers and what capabilities? they are no match for Russia has already. how much US military capabilities propaganda have u eaten??

What I meant is it is the West who is desperate for a war with Russia. Russia is the Victim here.

Putin is giving the exact rhetoric that the west wants so that they can pursue their war on Russia.

But yes I agree with you. The west will not be able to win against Russia. Russia will beat the west and survive the war .

 

[t1000]

So you're just using your imagination. I'm telling you the actual facts. Young Chinese want to live in the big shiny cities of modern China, they don't want to scrape out a living in the freezing barren cold of Siberia. Even the Chinese of Dongbei, who are closest to Siberia, are sick of the cold and flocking to and overrunning Hainan island in the South.

Climate data compiled over decades is imagination? That's a strange claim.
Anywho, regarding the chinese from dongbei moving to hainan, maybe it's true, maybe it isn't but it is strange that you fail to grasp that I'm talking about the future, as in climate warming up in the future.
Good day.

But why would the chinese need to take siberia ?

They are getting all that minerals for friendship price.

Fighting a war , removing the natives and assimilating a new region is an expensive process and rather time consuming . Also there are other regions that china is more interested in and is critical for Chinese national interest and security for example Taiwan and south Tibet. These 2 regions are more important than Siberia.

Say today if the Chinese fight war and capture Siberia. Then what ? This will break Russian federation into small states as the economic loss and humiliation of losing half the county would be to great for the current federal government of Russia to survive. These successor states will be open to western influence. The west hates China more than Russia.

So while china will gain in the short term by going to war with Russia. The long term is loss as China will have allowed the west to open another front against her in the North. Why would the Chinese allow the west this opportunity when the West already has opened a land front in the south ( CHina india border) and the south china sea? Also if The West can influence Russia, then China also loses central asia. Basically the west will be able to BOX China in from all side.

Therefore having a strong and stable Russia is of more importance than capturing frozen land for the sake of it. Looks great on map and as PR project. Serves little practical purpose and will be fatal for China in the long run if they go to war with Russia.

This is why China is friends with Russia. Both need each other. China will carry Russia on her back if necessary. But the defeat of Russia at the hands of West is disaster for China.

I agree with your points.

 

[tower9]

Climate data compiled over decades is imagination? That's a strange claim.
Anywho, regarding the chinese from dongbei moving to hainan, maybe it's true, maybe it isn't but it is strange that you fail to grasp that I'm talking about the future, as in climate warming up in the future.
Good day.

I agree with your points.

Climate change acts very slowly. Even if Siberia was warmer, would it have the big modern cities and economic opportunities that urban China has? No. Plus, young Chinese today basically live in developed country standards and this will be more so 10-20 years in the future. Why would they want to tough it out and live in Siberia? How many Americans want to live in Siberia?

 

[tower9]

Why would young Chinese want to trade this for Siberia?

For this?

How many Americans even move to Alaska? And it is in the same country. How many Canadians go to the Yukon?

Dongbei is losing population while the rest of China is booming. That tells you something. Even in their own country, Chinese are avoiding the coldest regions and going to the booming warm regions.

 

[Michael Corleone]

I assure you . Putin is not joking



One of the few politicians in the world today who can follow words with actions. Make no mistake, Russia does have the capability to do what Putin says

Sure at the cost of major defeat
Idk how many tanks he got ready but if the reserves are activated and sent to the border you know his next plan is my city lol. I’ll probably be dead lol
Otherwise it doesn’t mean much if he’s going to just send threats. Us army already started pouring in ukraine

 

[KurtisBrian]

Climate change acts very slowly. Even if Siberia was warmer, would it have the big modern cities and economic opportunities that urban China has? No. Plus, young Chinese today basically live in developed country standards and this will be more so 10-20 years in the future. Why would they want to tough it out and live in Siberia? How many Americans want to live in Siberia?

Why would young Chinese want to trade this for Siberia?

For this?

How many Americans even move to Alaska? And it is in the same country. How many Canadians go to the Yukon?

Dongbei is losing population while the rest of China is booming. That tells you something. Even in their own country, Chinese are avoiding the coldest regions and going to the booming warm regions.

this site will show you what Canadians think of the cold. I am Canadian and it still blew my mind.

Canada is a huge country. Most of it is unfit for human habitation.

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[Jobless Jack]

Sure at the cost of major defeat
Idk how many tanks he got ready but if the reserves are activated and sent to the border you know his next plan is my city lol. I’ll probably be dead lol
Otherwise it doesn’t mean much if he’s going to just send threats. Us army already started pouring in ukraine

Wont matter.

This is do or die for Russia

If nato gains control of the black sea, its over for Russia. Bye Bye. Russian fedaration will not survive as a state.

And No. The west will not win a Nuclear shootout with Russia.

will the Russian take the entire ukraine or just the eastern part ?

 

[tower9]

this site will show you what Canadians think of the cold. I am Canadian and it still blew my mind.

Canada is a huge country. Most of it is unfit for human habitation.

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Exactly my point

 

[Beast]

Those siberia far from ocean and has no easy access to them. Climate is terrible. More of a burden to take those area than asset. Even extract of oil and mineral will be more expensive than the mineral worth.

The Russian even need to rent kazakhstan place to fire their rocket to space. More or less tell u the more land doesn't translate to better. China is more interested in SCS than siberia.

Luckily we got hainan island near equator to make our trip to space easier.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Wont matter.

This is do or die for Russia

If nato gains control of the black sea, its over for Russia. Bye Bye. Russian fedaration will not survive as a state.

And No. The west will not win a Nuclear shootout with Russia.

will the Russian take the entire ukraine or just the eastern part ?

If they push beyond Donetsk which they already control half of then I’m under fire and ukraine will be forced to get serious because beyond my city it’s all flat valleys, they can steamroll to Moscow with good logistics

 

[Jobless Jack]

If they push beyond Donetsk which they already control half of then I’m under fire and ukraine will be forced to get serious because beyond my city it’s all flat valleys, they can steamroll to Moscow with good logistics

So bsically the entire ukraine ?

 

[KurtisBrian]

Even supposedly cold weather Russians seem to crowd up next to Europe, around the Black Sea or into the Ukraine. 94 million people in 4 districts covering 2.3 million km2 vs roughly 17 million km2 total. total pop 145 million
so 65% of Russian population crowds into 13% of territory controlled by Russia. Judging by the Ukraine situation, Russians seem to want more moderately warm places.

Very few people are foolish (stupid?) enough to live and slave away in the cold, harsh, boring tundra boreal hinterlands while others are partying, playing and relaxing in nice warm places.

a Howl from the North.

 

[Michael Corleone]

So bsically the entire ukraine ?

Yeah it’s under threat. Look up the video where they’re moving trains full of SPG to Crimea. I mean who knew they’re building that bridge for that purpose lol

 

[dbc]

Us army already started pouring in ukraine

there is nothing in the news? how do you know?

 

[vostok]

One day we will throw USA out of Europe, and there will be no coups and wars here.