Breaking: Putin warns West of “rapid and harsh” response from Russia if it crosses “red lines”

[tower9]

That is why Russia will have no choice but to become closer to Europe and even the USA.

China is the real threat to it and it should stop pretending that it is on the same level as USA or even China now. It needs to join the Europeans as it can only protect itself from Chinese expansionism by joining the Western alliance.

Young Chinese want to move to shiny cities to get rich, they don’t want to move to a Siberian outpost. The older Chinese who are used to a harsh existence are aging and dying off. Chinese are not itching to move to the bitter cold of Siberia. Even the Chinese in dongbei are moving south to escape the harsh cold. Hainan is overrun by dongbei people.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Sorry, but what Can Russia do anymore?

It has zero economic leverage and its conventional forces are falling further behind the West as it lacks money to keep up with military technological advancement.

It is only relevant anymore as it has thousands of nuclear weapons and those cannot be used here.

Rather than worry about the West, maybe it needs to focus on the near-superpower to its east, China, which will pretty soon want some parts of Siberia that Russia took from it in the 19th century.

Russia wouldn’t bother to nuke Siberia and China if it has to. Chinese will have to beat them economically

 

[UKBengali]

Russia wouldn’t bother to nuke Siberia and China if it has to. Chinese will have to beat them economically

I don't think the Chinese will even need to physically invade Siberia.

They are already making the economic and demographic shifts in that region to slowly separate the region from Russia.

Russians still have not accepted they are not a great power anymore, let alone a superpower.

 

[Bengal71]

Jokes on Putin

The west is horny for war.

Putin's word play will only make them more horny.

No.

When it comes to Russia their erections rapidly deflate.

 

[Michael Corleone]

I don't think the Chinese will even need to physically invade Siberia.

They are already making the economic and demographic shifts in that region to slowly separate the region from Russia.

Russians still have not accepted they are not a great power anymore, let alone a superpower.

Russia is the white equivalent of India now

 

[KurtisBrian]

trying to be patient. "Don't cross our RED line!' USA responds, "Where is this RED line?" Putin, "It is a SECRET! WE will decide where the RED line is!"

Much better at diplomacy and threats than the Chinese.
China, "This is the RED line." US crosses it. China, "Dang, you crossed it. Well, now this spot over here is the RED line." US crosses it. China, "Doh. New RED line here! It is real this time."

 

[Jobless Jack]

Russia is the white equivalent of India now

I assure you . Putin is not joking



One of the few politicians in the world today who can follow words with actions. Make no mistake, Russia does have the capability to do what Putin says

 

[t1000]

Young Chinese want to move to shiny cities to get rich, they don’t want to move to a Siberian outpost. The older Chinese who are used to a harsh existence are aging and dying off. Chinese are not itching to move to the bitter cold of Siberia. Even the Chinese in dongbei are moving south to escape the harsh cold. Hainan is overrun by dongbei people.

Isn't Siberia warming up?
Warm lands with very little population and loads of mineral wealth.
Sounds inviting, if you ask me.

 

[tower9]

Isn't Siberia warming up?
Warm lands with very little population and loads of mineral wealth.
Sounds inviting, if you ask me.

Spend a winter there and tell me if it's warming up.

 

[t1000]

Spend a winter there and tell me if it's warming up.

Come on now, you know it is warming up; and you are just putting up a vague strawman.
I know siberia is unbearably cold, but it is warming up; Climate data compiled over the decades show it is warming up.
And there's a lot of money under the permafrost. Money attracts man like a lamp attracts a moth.

 

[Beast]

Isn't Siberia warming up?
Warm lands with very little population and loads of mineral wealth.
Sounds inviting, if you ask me.

Lol... How many mineral wealth country become a real advance technology country?

It's a curse rather than blessing... If outer mongolia now vote to join back China, I can forsee China reject their request. We don't want to carry other burden.

 

[Jobless Jack]

Come on now, you know it is warming up; and you are just putting up a vague strawman.
I know siberia is unbearably cold, but it is warming up; Climate data compiled over the decades show it is warming up.
And there's a lot of money under the permafrost. Money attracts man like a lamp attracts a moth.

But why would the chinese need to take siberia ?

They are getting all that minerals for friendship price.

Fighting a war , removing the natives and assimilating a new region is an expensive process and rather time consuming . Also there are other regions that china is more interested in and is critical for Chinese national interest and security for example Taiwan and south Tibet. These 2 regions are more important than Siberia.

Say today if the Chinese fight war and capture Siberia. Then what ? This will break Russian federation into small states as the economic loss and humiliation of losing half the county would be to great for the current federal government of Russia to survive. These successor states will be open to western influence. The west hates China more than Russia.

So while china will gain in the short term by going to war with Russia. The long term is loss as China will have allowed the west to open another front against her in the North. Why would the Chinese allow the west this opportunity when the West already has opened a land front in the south ( CHina india border) and the south china sea? Also if The West can influence Russia, then China also loses central asia. Basically the west will be able to BOX China in from all side.

Therefore having a strong and stable Russia is of more importance than capturing frozen land for the sake of it. Looks great on map and as PR project. Serves little practical purpose and will be fatal for China in the long run if they go to war with Russia.

This is why China is friends with Russia. Both need each other. China will carry Russia on her back if necessary. But the defeat of Russia at the hands of West is disaster for China.

 

[tower9]

Come on now, you know it is warming up; and you are just putting up a vague strawman.
I know siberia is unbearably cold, but it is warming up; Climate data compiled over the decades show it is warming up.
And there's a lot of money under the permafrost. Money attracts man like a lamp attracts a moth.

So you're just using your imagination. I'm telling you the actual facts. Young Chinese want to live in the big shiny cities of modern China, they don't want to scrape out a living in the freezing barren cold of Siberia. Even the Chinese of Dongbei, who are closest to Siberia, are sick of the cold and flocking to and overrunning Hainan island in the South.

 

[pakpride00090]

Sorry, but what Can Russia do anymore?

It has zero economic leverage and its conventional forces are falling further behind the West as it lacks money to keep up with military technological advancement.

It is only relevant anymore as it has thousands of nuclear weapons and those cannot be used here.

Rather than worry about the West, maybe it needs to focus on the near-superpower to its east, China, which will pretty soon want some parts of Siberia that Russia took from it in the 19th century.

can i have a source for this ?

 

[925boy]

Jokes on Putin

The west is horny for war.

Putin's word play will only make them more horny.

JOkes on US and NATO, because when RUssia boots up, LIKE NOW, NATO turns coward. cross Russia's red lines then!! if ur so bold, go ahead! dont talk tough on PDF.
like i tell people here, there's no bluff in military issues- you are either dominant or u will get your azz beat up if u dont back down.

US army already in ukraine bruh

with how many soldiers and what capabilities? they are no match for Russia has already. how much US military capabilities propaganda have u eaten??