Breaking : Putin orders start of Russian forces' withdrawal from Syria

[unleashed]

A big TUsssssssss..

 

[Jaanbaz]

Look at all the ISIS supporters getting happy.

 

[Mrc]

draw down to what? they have 30 fighters and 8 helicopters in Syria.... drawing down means? leaving couple of fighters and a helicopter?

when Russians withdraw turks and Saudis will move in for the kill.......they should

 

[Serpentine]

Hmeimim base and the Tartus base will operate as normal, it's the limited Russian ground forces and advisers that are going back.

Even if all of them were going, the result isn't bad, more than 5000 dangerous terrorists turned into fertilizer in operations of past few months.

 

[Falcon29]

Hmeimim base and the Tartus base will operate as normal, it's the limited Russian ground forces and advisers that are going back.

Even if all of them were going, the result isn't bad, more than 5000 dangerous terrorists turned into fertilizer in operations of past few months.

From what I've seen, the airbases will remain, the ground forces will be pulled out with exception of advisors and troops to guard the airbases. Russia achieved objective of enabling the survival of the Syrian government but also putting them in offensive stances rather than defensive ones on some fronts. Russia will keep some air defense systems there, and of course the naval bases as well. It would make no sense to pull out aerial assets, otherwise Syrian army is still prone to collapse, as they lack manpower to sustain opposition offensives. Russia also wanted to make sure Syria would not be used as an intermediary for gas/oil pipeline from Arab world into Europe. Because this will decrease European dependence on it for these resources, which in turn would heavily impact the Russian economy.

With that being said, there is likely another purpose here that was probably coordinated with the West. This move could be done to pressure the government to form transitional government. And warn them they will lose Russian support if they don't. I can't see how this would work, as rebels haven't nominated any representatives for them. Many rebel groups are at each other's throats as well. The approach the West is playing here is very dangerous. It's not in anyone's interest to force a minority of rebel factions to takeover government just because it may benefit Israel. This would include bombardment of both the Syrian army and other more hardline rebel groups. And it will cause mass refugee influx, possible civil war in Lebanon, more violence directed against minorities, etc....

I still do not believe Turkey and Saudi Arabia are planning military intervention, even if Russia fully pulled out. They will just arm opposition like usual.

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To add to this, West/Israel will see this as Russian weakness. The moment Russia allowed Israeli air strikes is a big redline. West is essentially Jewish colonies until the White people take control of their nations back from the Jews. So really the only player here is Jewish. Everything in the West, East, etc...it's just one player. And they will arm the opposition more to kill all Shia's and Christians, cause civil war in Lebanon. And then try getting as many Palestinians killed in the process. Then these same Jews who constructed all this, will go tell Western people that the Muslims are killing Christians and that the white people should be distracted from Jewish control of their civilizations.

So the Jews will achieve three very big objectives in coming decade:

1. Make white's a minority in Europe and US
2. Destroy all enemies of Jewish tyranny in the region
3. Get many Palestinians and minorities murdered

If the global population doesn't have a revolution against this Jewish hegemony, the world is going to hell and only Jews will reap benefits and go vacationing while Europeans, Asians and Americans will be in miserable civil wars.

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If you guys keep treating this as conspiracy theory, then everyone is going to die in the coming two decades. Unfortunately, Muslims are following a religion that is taken from Jewish creation known as Judaism. And they are brainwashed into believing achieving Jewish interests is something done for a 'God'. This is why sectarianism will never go. The Jews are having a blast. White nationalists are the last hope for humanity.

 

[Schutz]

I think the Russians got what they wanted, a bit of leverage over the West and the ability to say "look at us" we can still throw in a few punches if we need to. I think Russia is going to have to start moving its politics more towards the west now, the worlds becoming more and more hostile especially in regards to race/religion so does it look South and East towards brown skinned men and Muslims or West to its white skinned Christian neighbours/ancestors.

I doubt Russia has the ability to sustain itself for anything more than regional conflicts and even then I feel that thats pushing it but it needs a shift in politics, its got alot of enemies around it now and within its own borders, most of it is self inflicted by its poor treatment of former soviet countries and their muslim citizens but that doesent matter, alot of nations who normally would have had Russias back or atleast support from an anti American viewpoint will no longer support them because of their backing of Assad and defacto the Iranians.

 

[alarabi]

For the first time since 2000, Putin decided to decrease defense budget for 5% due to the the deep drop in oil prices.
Putin knows that Iran can't pay the bill too because Iran hasn't payed the bill of s300 so how about sharing the expenses of war in Syria. From this move I can tell that Putin is smarter than Iran and obviously he cornered Iran in Syria along with Assad and Hezbullah. Let see if they can hold on alone )

 

[C130]

ROFL, /slow clapping.
I said it before, Russia is impoverished and can't sustain lengthy operations, at least not on the level of USA or Saudi Arabia. I wan't to see Syrian faces now, especially the ones who doubted Saudi achievements in Yemen. At least we sustained consistent pressure that culminated in liberation of most of Yemeni lands and the surrender and submission of the Houthis.

Poor poor Russia and their nut huggers.

I suspect the planes and crews are at their limit, but Putin can always send in new planes and crews to take over for another 5 months.

this is an invaluable opportunity for Russia to test it's weapons and tactics. they just don't want to get bogged down in a long war.

 

[Beyonder]

From what I've seen, the airbases will remain, the ground forces will be pulled out with exception of advisors and troops to guard the airbases. Russia achieved objective of enabling the survival of the Syrian government but also putting them in offensive stances rather than defensive ones on some fronts. Russia will keep some air defense systems there, and of course the naval bases as well. It would make no sense to pull out aerial assets, otherwise Syrian army is still prone to collapse, as they lack manpower to sustain opposition offensives. Russia also wanted to make sure Syria would not be used as an intermediary for gas/oil pipeline from Arab world into Europe. Because this will decrease European dependence on it for these resources, which in turn would heavily impact the Russian economy.

With that being said, there is likely another purpose here that was probably coordinated with the West. This move could be done to pressure the government to form transitional government. And warn them they will lose Russian support if they don't. I can't see how this would work, as rebels haven't nominated any representatives for them. Many rebel groups are at each other's throats as well. The approach the West is playing here is very dangerous. It's not in anyone's interest to force a minority of rebel factions to takeover government just because it may benefit Israel. This would include bombardment of both the Syrian army and other more hardline rebel groups. And it will cause mass refugee influx, possible civil war in Lebanon, more violence directed against minorities, etc....

I still do not believe Turkey and Saudi Arabia are planning military intervention, even if Russia fully pulled out. They will just arm opposition like usual.

.....
.....

To add to this, West/Israel will see this as Russian weakness. The moment Russia allowed Israeli air strikes is a big redline. West is essentially Jewish colonies until the White people take control of their nations back from the Jews. So really the only player here is Jewish. Everything in the West, East, etc...it's just one player. And they will arm the opposition more to kill all Shia's and Christians, cause civil war in Lebanon. And then try getting as many Palestinians killed in the process. Then these same Jews who constructed all this, will go tell Western people that the Muslims are killing Christians and that the white people should be distracted from Jewish control of their civilizations.

So the Jews will achieve three very big objectives in coming decade:

1. Make white's a minority in Europe and US
2. Destroy all enemies of Jewish tyranny in the region
3. Get many Palestinians and minorities murdered

If the global population doesn't have a revolution against this Jewish hegemony, the world is going to hell and only Jews will reap benefits and go vacationing while Europeans, Asians and Americans will be in miserable civil wars.

....
....

If you guys keep treating this as conspiracy theory, then everyone is going to die in the coming two decades. Unfortunately, Muslims are following a religion that is taken from Jewish creation known as Judaism. And they are brainwashed into believing achieving Jewish interests is something done for a 'God'. This is why sectarianism will never go. The Jews are having a blast. White nationalists are the last hope for humanity.

Damn..you just hit the bullseye.... only if Arabs were smart enough to comprehend the gravity of Jewish Evil. Many in Europe understand it more than people assume but they are too insignificant to make any difference. I believe only way to offset the balance of this grand design is arm Iran/Hezbollah/Syria with some nukes...and hit Israeli financial interest worldwide constantly aka de-dollarization.

 

[That Guy]

Sry but i dont see any concessions that Russia archieved against west, Syria is at the beginning of the Russian operations again, lets see if SAA is gonna be able to hold the captured areas.
The Russian base was not questioned to begin with so no archievement there either.

The Russian base would have been brought up, if western backed rebels won out, as a Russian base would be against US strategic interests.

It's not the SAA that are going to be holding captured areas, it's Iranian backed groups, especially hezbullah.

As for Ukraine, the only concession they could have archieved was removing of sanctions or recognizing Crimea as part of Russia which also didnt happen and the Ukraine question is still not solved while Russian economy is taking a nose dive.

Or, you know, asking the US to back off, and stop making a stink of the Ukrainian situation. You can bet that the US is going to start taking a more diplomatic tone with regards to Ukraine from now on.

Seeing how Russia was bombing grain silos and claiming it was isis oil or carpet bombing of areas told me already that this operation was bound to fail.
The reason why Russia is pulling out is because they cant fund the operation any longer if you ask me.

They can fund it, but like I said, it was never to support Assad, they were in it for themselves alone.

 

[Timur]

Damn..you just hit the bullseye.... only if Arabs were smart enough to comprehend the gravity of Jewish Evil. Many in Europe understand it more than people assume but they are too insignificant to make any difference. I believe only way to offset the balance of this grand design is arm Iran/Hezbollah/Syria with some nukes...and hit Israeli financial interest worldwide constantly aka de-dollarization.

you are crazy beyond imagination..

hezbiran and iran with nukes is more wicked than israel can ever be.. would you give IS nukes? I see you as you see me if I would want to give IS nukes ..

insane thats absolutly insane ..

 

[Beyonder]

you are crazy beyond imagination..

hezbiran and iran with nukes is more wicked than israel can ever be.. would you give IS nukes? I see you as you see me if I would want to give IS nukes ..

insane thats absolutly insane ..

Awww how cute a Jew lover

Awww how cute a Jew lover

Anyway, I consider Iran/Hezbollah as a much needed Antidote against Israeli apartheid.

 

[Falcon29]

Damn..you just hit the bullseye.... only if Arabs were smart enough to comprehend the gravity of Jewish Evil. Many in Europe understand it more than people assume but they are too insignificant to make any difference. I believe only way to offset the balance of this grand design is arm Iran/Hezbollah/Syria with some nukes...and hit Israeli financial interest worldwide constantly aka de-dollarization.

We need to keep spreading awareness. Most people in the world are heavily brainwashed. But, the American people are going through the phase where either Jews will dominate eternally or they will revolt against the Jews. Just look at Donald Trump, the Jews know his movement and popular base understand the whole game going on. And if they win, they will cut the head off the snake. This is why right now in the US, there is so much anti-Trump propaganda, like on a severe level. They are also inciting violence against his supporters. They are now threatening to charge Donald Trump as well. And soon they will be threatening to kill anyone who supports him. Because Jewish domination of America is at threat.

This is American people's last chance to save their country but also global humanity. If it means civil strife, we(the good people) will do everything in our hands to struggle against the Jewish establishment, we will put up a fight definitely.

Awww how cute a Jew lover


Anyway, I consider Iran/Hezbollah as a much needed Antidote against Israeli apartheid.

It took me a while to see if some people are just anti-Iran/Hezbollah or more than that. I realized that they are indeed Jew lovers or people who submit to the Jew and want them to have total control. There needs to be global revolution against the Jew, believe it or not , it will be sparked in the United States of America. Since Jews invested most of their energy here. It will blowback on them.

The issue is stupid minorities like Muslims who are being used by the Jew to be a force against white people. Jews will use these moron minorities as cannon fodder.

 

[boomslang]

WTF... What objective Russian achieved? who will save their little dictator now? already Hizbollah is under pressure from Arabs...

Good days ahead for ISIS.. bad days ahead for world peace..

They are ALL our enemies so let them keep knocking the shit out of each other. Like a Giants vs. Cowboys game to an Eagles fan.

...If I am not wrong, many had forecasted end of american life after the collapse of Lehman brothers (and many others) and the great recessions... but look now, it is only the US who has came out even stronger than before....

If I had a nickle every time douche bags here said our end was near, I would be wasting my time on this site. I'd be diving off of my island in the Caribbean.

 

[dadeechi]

Russia may be shying away to fight, now that Pakistan entered the ring through Raheel Sharif and the table has been turned. Pakistanis are the masters of proxy war and Russia knows it from the Afghan experience.

Tough luck to Iran and Syria now to confront Pakistan supported by 34 nation coalition.


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