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On that note..here's an analysis from a respected retired army official...
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Listen this, he was there in the meeting with IK yesterday where that letter was discussed with the journalists. He summed up the best especially his personnel assessment that US doesn't like to listen a man who has the balls to say absolutely not on their face especially a man from third world country.
Looks like she was mis-informed earliier or she bought the fake propaganda, here's her statement today.
I think you don't get my point. Suppose People are furious due to the removal of the IK Govt through external and internal conspiracies. Military's image is tarnished. (I was responding to the comment containing similar scenario)Don't keep such hopes..although adventure from eastern border is more likely now in future..The lunatics will be encouraged by the sad state of affairs on our side..they will know that they can do adventure & all it takes is a threat from uncle sam to keep our ppl in check..
Well most of us are waiting for this dust to settle. And if conspiracy against IK materializes under defenders of the nation's watch, then expect no mercy from the public. PAK Army has a hefty track record in meddling with the regimes. It's not the 20th century anymore. Either come clean or get used to be blamed and shamed. We know our enemies want the same but don't put fuel on the spark by shamelessly staying "neutral" under visibly foreign attacks. We people of Pakistan are starving to death to support and finance world's top notch military and intelligence services for which purpose! To scavenge upon our own nation! That too upon the orders of some western overlords from which our Quaid e Azam got us freedom 3 quarters of a century before. Then we would prefer to be the slaves of the original Goras rather than their lapdogs.Gentlemen, just want to remind some of us here that speaking against our army, our politics leadership, losing hope... That's exactly what our enemies want at the moment.
There is only one way to break Pakistan. That is to break it from inside using its own people, pitch institution against institution....
Let's stand united behind our current political and military leadership, let's not play into the hands of the enemies. Remember, they haven't been able to do anything by themselves.
IK like leader, we've got after a long time. Let's hope and pray he is able to bring our internal enemies to their knees, expose them as well.
A word of advice to some. Your mind is polluted to the extent that the mere mention of official secret act brings Pakistan army into your mind. Mind you, there are other civilian agencies who work on that act. But since this propaganda is being aimed at army as well, therefore, it is being dragged everywhere.
Let's hope and pray, that IK defeats all enemies, both internal and external. I would also like all of them to be exposed.
Let's not make assumptions.... Let's wait for something solid. We've not got the letter, IK has. Let's wait for him to divulge, name everyone....
Never heard of IB chief speaking on media! Or do they even have a PR department? Or do you expect Islamabad Police SHO commenting on that matter!There are other institutions and people who are silent as well. Means they are also involved?
Well most of us are waiting for this dust to settle. And if conspiracy against IK materializes under defenders of the nation's watch, then expect no mercy from the public. PAK Army has a hefty track record in meddling with the regimes. It's not the 20th century anymore. Either come clean or get used to be blamed and shamed. We know our enemies want the same but don't put fuel on the spark by shamelessly staying "neutral" under visibly foreign attacks. We people of Pakistan are starving to death to support and finance world's top notch military and intelligence services for which purpose! To scavenge upon our own nation! That too upon the orders of some western overlords from which our Quaid e Azam got us freedom 3 quarters of a century before. Then we would prefer to be the slaves of the original Goras rather than their lapdogs.
The letter is present with the top military brass as per PM and the cabinet ministers. DG ISPR could have already denied it's presence with them if that was the case.
Commando General Musharraf got mad by waiving his fist in air to threaten the people. He tried to shutdown a private TV channel but failed miserably. Ousted a sitting Chief Justice, then what's happened after that is history. It's the age of IT and social media. Even the weakest of the people like Palestinians can demoralize the mighty western backed Israelis just through social media reporting and resisting with stones and homemade rockets at best.In my experience of witnessing lock downs conducted by fauji during covid:
Logha di awaz vi ne nikal di si jado hukam chala re si.
Kindly don't copy Rana Sanaullah's words. We have already heard him before. At least Stop plagiarizing statements here. And offer a due credit to whoever said that.Amen to that!
There should NOT be an EVM without appropriate safeguards. Overseas voters don't know jack. They may get a representative or two via a constitutional amendment. But if they want to vote, they'd better come to Pakistan to vote!
Areesh, tum thaktay nahin ho? Kitna ro gai?
Lol now complaining and crying about "patwaris" being a rare breed hereIts over, IK is done. STOP complaining.
Had this forum been policed a bit better, it would not have gone over completely to PTI supporters.
Just look at the mess now. Damn it.
Nope. He is a patwari and right now he loves Army's "neutrality". A few months back were abusing the same Generals for taking sides .Army has nothing to do with politics.
WOW WOW WOW. This is why I have said in another thread you are from chu chu land or you are an establishment stooge.
Do you have any solid proof of that? Go to court and prove it then.Ah, you are much slower than I thought.
Who told you that army is with PDM? You are prisoner of your PTI bubble & it is making you see things.
Fact is that multiple generals, from Shuja Pasha onwards had bet on IK & promoted him actively (against the law & against their oath). 2018 elections were managed with the process going into high gear in 2017. So, you do not get to cry about army being this or that because you have been supporting a dispensation that was shoved down out throats by a few generals. Now that the support is gone & the regime is crumbling, you can not run around pointing fingers. Look at yourself first.
Are yiu OK?What kind of taken care of? How is it even possible!
So now you want a fully loaded J-10C on a mission to Rawalpindi? Like the botched attempt to do the same through the F-16 in the past!
Generally military is an organization whose members are brainwashed to follow a strict chain of command since day 1.
So don't expect any heroic act from junior military officials, it's never gonna happen. Our military's top brass is so much sensitive about it's image projection that it would go to any limits to preserve their sacred cow's image at any cost. I repeat at any cost!
How many were present in "Mujhay Q Nikala" rally? When PMLN was firmly in power too. A patwari remains always a patwari.He has some very motivated supporters. He also heads two governments (KP & Punjab) and three purses (Federal, KP, & Punjab). So, him filling a venue with capacity of some thousands (20-30?) is not a surprise.
Musharraf had a big rally on 12th May 2007 in Islamabad. That day MQM killed a number of people in political rally in Karachi & got severe reprisals in return by ANP cadres. So, a big rally in a government's dying days is nothing special. It happens.
OK Choozay - aap ka Gen X abbu.