Featured Breaking : Pakistan to ban TLP officially

[jamahir]

They have hijacked pakistan. we are under massive influence of saudia. expect more bomb blasts in india because this crazy sect only wants to hurt. this is what they teach in madrassa. now i don't care about these people. they have made us small tiny insects. all this ban happened because saudia wanted it. they want only their sect in pakistan and there is so much funding, so much money. indians shouldn't blame us. you are at war against these terrorists. don't blame us.

Firstly, sincere thanks for your concern for India.

Secondly, though Saudia may provide the funding, the ideology that South Asian Muslim extremists espouse, well it is totally desi. The Tablighi Jamaat is the first step towards these people becoming more and more extremist until they turn violent. The Sri Lankan bombings in 2019 is one example of this desi extremism. The Tablighis are all over the world now. From Turkey to Southeast Asia to Europe to Africa to other places.

And open you a brothel and make you its manager so that you do what any socialist can do best

Why do you mullah supporters always involve sexual themes when you can't reply to some sensible statement ?

 

[Windjammer]

Even in the US police and govt agencies avoid taking harsh action during boiling point. They start the action when the dust starts settling down. Govt starts picking up people slowly and silently. Surety of punishment from govt security agencies and judiciary.

And then LHC comes to mind....some nuisance that US never has to face.

 

[Death Professor]

What would you advise ?

Well, have to measure pros and cons. How hard is to kick France ambassador, what will be the backlash? It can be easily justified on international stage, France is violating minority rights by forcing a burqa ban, on top of disrespecting Prophet(P.B.U.H). Banning TLP is not a wise decision, they have a huge backing, the numbers are in millions(and they are not biryani motivated, they follow an ideology). And it's not like their leadership have corruption charges or any other sort of violation of law(except what is happening right now, which is an "effect" not a cause).

This will definitely not end well for this government. Hope sanity prevails, we don't want another TTP in the making, and they have more penetration in whole Pakistan unlike TTP.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Lol, the only positive of this would come if this is used as a precedent to ban other terror outfits like PTM and so on.

But something tells me we will remain as gutless as we've been under Bajwa.

Not quite so simple.

In the case of the TLP, the government has a strong case in terms of justifying its decision by pointing to the clear evidence of violence and destruction of property by the TLP. The PTM has a lot of poisonous rhetoric, but there isn't a clear cut connection between the PTM and violence against the State (yet).

 

[Death Professor]

Not quite so simple.

In the case of the TLP, the government has a strong case in terms of justifying its decision by pointing to the clear evidence of violence and destruction of property by the TLP. The PTM has a lot of poisonous rhetoric, but there isn't a clear cut connection between the PTM and violence against the State (yet).

well, government also had a strong case when PTI attacked PTV. Things aren't black and white, one should make a judgment objectively.

 

[HAIDER]

And then LHC comes to mind....some nuisance that US never has to face.

It won't be easy for TLP protesters this time, cause they directly hit Punjab police, and calling in Rangers is very serious. I doubt anyone will be produced in LHC. TLP shot in his foot, they working in making vote bank for next election. But, it seems the party is lead by some very non-serious people.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The TLP are good men

Did any part of the TLP leadership come out and condemn the violence and destruction of property at the hands of the TLP workers?

Not sure how you call these people good men when they are violating the laws and killing people and making the lives of people miserable.

You hold a peaceful protest, don't block roads, and if your demands are not met, try to win the elections next time and bring in the kinds of policies you want. The right to hold a protest does not mean you have the right to force the State to implement your demands. If the protest works, great, if it doesn't work, go home and fight in the elections.

This whole business of threatening the State and rioting because TLP demands are not met is out and out criminal behavior.

 

[jamahir]

Jamahir pls save us from these terrorists. They want everything and they give cash on the spot which is attractive for many. finally after so many years, they have revealed their true face. mbs probably buy pakistan for a massive deal.

Well bhai, it is possible the progressives in Pakistan, like you, cannot come up with money on the scale of what the Gulfies can fund, so I would suggest going step-by-step until you have the organizational capabilities to confront the extremists. You can join those progressives who are already organized to various levels. Like Arooj Aurangzeb ( the leather jacket girl ), the Laal music band, the supporters of the late Mashal Khan etc. Even Malala since she will know of some of the organizational levels in Pakistan.

 

[newb3e]

so after handing tlp money envelope they have decided to ban tlp!

kamal genius bethay hain! no wonder bhutto is stll alive and raping Pakistan!

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

well, government also had a strong case when PTI attacked PTV. Things aren't black and white, one should make a judgment objectively.

My understanding is that the issue will go to the Supreme Court, and the government will have to support its ban decision with evidence and arguments pointing out that the TLP is a threat to security and the State, and they are going to base those arguments not just on the recent riots and violence, but the multiple previous ones as well. The State has enough evidence to paint a pattern of violence during TLP protests that they can use to justify their decision. Whether that is sufficient for the court, we will have to wait and see.

In the case of the PTI (or PMLN or PPP) while you may be able to point to isolated incidents of violence during protests in the case of all 3 parties, you cannot establish a pattern of violence and destruction.

 

[Enigma SIG]

(and they are not biryani motivated, they follow an ideology)

Biryani IS an ideology.

Religious parties should be relegated to the dustbin of history anyway.

They're a cult masquerading as a mob.

Also sexually transmitted democracy. Kill it with fire.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

so after handing tlp money envelope they have decided to ban tlp!

kamal genius bethay hain! no wonder bhutto is stll alive and raping Pakistan!

The money was for transportation costs for TLP workers after the Faizabad protest, and it points to how the State tried to use talks and peacefully resolve the issue with the TLP multiple times.

The TLP, however, has returned each time and perpetrated more and more violence through its protests, abusing the State's restraint and approach and taking it as a weakness.

 

[Invicta]

My understanding is that the issue will go to the Supreme Court, and the government will have to support its ban decision with evidence and arguments pointing out that the TLP is a threat to security and the State, and they are going to base those arguments not just on the recent riots and violence, but the multiple previous ones as well. The State has enough evidence to paint a pattern of violence during TLP protests that they can use to justify their decision. Whether that is sufficient for the court, we will have to wait and see.

In the case of the PTI (or PMLN or PPP) while you may be able to point to isolated incidents of violence during protests in the case of all 3 parties, you cannot establish a pattern of violence and destruction.

How much trust do you have with the justice system, knowing and following the Sharif debacle by LHC I have a fair feeling that this will be overturned.

 

[Death Professor]

In the case of the PTI (or PMLN or PPP) while you may be able to point to isolated incidents of violence during protests in the case of all 3 parties, you cannot establish a pattern of violence and destruction.

Don't agree with that.

My understanding is that the issue will go to the Supreme Court, and the government will have to support its ban decision with evidence and arguments pointing out that the TLP is a threat to security and the State, and they are going to base those arguments not just on the recent riots and violence, but the multiple previous ones as well. The State has enough evidence to paint a pattern of violence during TLP protests that they can use to justify their decision.

Now this is more likely to happen, and since I believe establishment like to play complicated games. Maybe, they want to create a beast of an opposition that could really give any government a tough time. Only, time will tell, but I still believe this will effect PTI in very bad way.

 

[arjunk]

TLP will soon try to attack PAF bases because JF-17 has a French Oxygen Regulation System. This is a good move.