Featured Breaking : Pakistan to ban TLP officially

[Goritoes]

TLP is full of uneducated extremists which are far far more dangerous, they can not wave the flag of " Aam Admi aur common Pakistani " while demanding or blackmailing the state, beating police, burning cars , destroying property because State didn't give them their demands? Wow i never thought there will come a day when Protecting the honor of Prophet Muhammad SAW will cause poor Muslims their property , livelihood and even lives. What a Shame , Thank God Govt banned these Animals and barbarians, they have no place in modern society, they are disgrace to Pakistan and more Importantly they are disgrace to Islam.

 

[Old School]

Government should seriously investigate if there
are saboteurs inside the government who had secretly made deal with TLP in order to sabotage the current IK government by turnishing Pakistan's image.
Government must crack down hard on these thugs who are out there to destabilize Pakistan for their own hidden agendas.

 

[Hassan90]

So apparently none of us have a right to travel to attend a funeral without fear of arrest for doing absolutely nothing?

The police act like a gang of armed terrorists literally abducting Rizvi in the middle of day as he was on his way to pay respects to a grieving family at a funeral and you feel like the TLP isn't right in challenging his arrest and demanding his safe return?

It was only a few years ago that the PTI bore the brunt of this unhinged police brutality spearheaded by the government in charge now they're orchestrating it:

The major difference is that the TLP is defending themselves which they have every right to do lest they be murdered like those innocent Pakistani's were in 2014 during the Model Town massacre:

What about the TLP's right to protest against enemy states that are literally ridiculing Pakistani culture, actively spy on our nation with the intent to do it harm and aid other terrorist entities like India?

I would think this would be the job of the government and security establishment but apparently your dip sh*t rent-a-Generals are acting for their own personal profit rather than the nations dignity and security while the and the prostitutes you call a government are busy hosting Euro trash at ski lodges rather than resolving the nations many issues:
Pakistani army’s ‘$20bn’ business
British royalty, ex-premiers of Spain & Italy on a ski trip to Pakistan

All the while foreign spies are freed as are war criminals who intended to murder our people to protect the business interests of a few rent-a-Generals and politicians:
Pakistan drops ammunition case against FBI agent Joel Cox
Raymond Davis release: Top court asked to try civil, military leaders
Pakistan released IAF pilot Wg. Cdr. Abhinandan after India’s attack threat, claims PMLN leader

I guess we can blame that on Rizvi and the TLP?

Saad and his father have a modest house especially considering the kind of celebrity status they enjoy in the country while your rent-a-General Musharraf has corruption cases against him and owns properties well beyond his means:
Musharraf got Rs20m on retirement, bought Rs400m flats in London, UAE

Apparently selling out the country is a great side gig for the losers that make up the officer ranks of our armed forces and the nations government:
https://www.voanews.com/south-centr...officers-given-death-jail-sentences-espionage

Who hasn't the Pakistani government or military sold our nation and people to? If it isn't the US it's the Chinese or Arab despots.

But these average run of the mill Pakistani's are terrorists and a threat to the country?

So the same people that have been progressively destroying Pakistan's economy by selling our industries and development to the Chinese, selling its people and interests out to Western nations like the US illegally extraditing our civilians to be tortured abroad also hate Rizvi.



You mean the "War of Terror" that the US instigated against the innocent men and women of Afghanistan and your nitwit corrupt military leadership threw Pakistan into for a few pats on the back, an American "ally" that empowers enemy nations like India and an anti-Pakistan leadership made up of warlords and morbidly corrupt pedophiles in charge in Afghanistan?

Are we supposed to be grateful?

Turkey, a member of NATO, refused to allow its territory to be used to attack and invade neighboring Iraq in 2003 while the Iranians never allowed their territory to be used to attack and invade Afghanistan in 2001 and they weren't even on friendly terms with the Taliban.

However, the US could always count on Pakistan's rent-an-Army and later civilian government to provide room to attack and invade a neighboring Muslim state all the while asking our soldiers to bomb our own towns and villages, displace over a million of our own people and murder who knows how many more of our own while our soldiers die for a foreign nations interests.

If the shaheeds are so important to you explain to me what did the military and government leadership do to avenge the murder of 28 soldiers in 2011 at Salala at the hands of the US Armed Forces?

Nothing, they did sh*t...

Apparently "shaheeds" don't matter or exist unless it's an excuse to murder and displace our own people.

It's not me, not the TLP or anyone else that disrespects Pakistan's soldiers or police instead it's the institutions lead by trash that use them like tools and canon fodder for personal gains like it does every other man woman and child in Pakistan.

How many of our people has this institution we refer to as an Armed Forces, police and government murdered, how many have they displaced, how much damage have they done to the country's economy in the process and how many of our own laws have they violated whether holding trials when they did not have the right nor jurisdiction to hold them or illegally extraditing our own citizens abroad to be knowingly tortured?

bro your are putting a lot of these ppl to test on their hypocricy level. they are unsave-able because they are blind in their opposition to islam . mullahs are vilified because these mulhids see their way of life ..in which our elite can enjoy all the vices,the perks,the protocols of the west while also ruling and putting bullet through our ppl who want islam at the helm of the nation. they are unanimous in their opposition to muslims but are we one as muslims? i think our weakness of being divided in religious group like shia, sunni, brelvi and deobandis,have made these seculars go out in the open and show their enmity against the religious teachings. can you believe ,a nation which calls itself Islamic republic ,killing its own ppl because they demand french ambassador to be kicked out? all this is happening because of our plots demanding generals who have one feet in pakistan and other in these western nations (their kids /wives mostly live in west for studies or shopping). pakistani religious folk need to keep their own sect behind there back and help eachother when it comes to politics so that we can change this whole system.

 

[Hassan90]

TLP is full of uneducated extremists which are far far more dangerous, they can not wave the flag of " Aam Admi aur common Pakistani " while demanding or blackmailing the state, beating police, burning cars , destroying property because State didn't give them their demands? Wow i never thought there will come a day when Protecting the honor of Prophet Muhammad SAW will cause poor Muslims their property , livelihood and even lives. What a Shame , Thank God Govt banned these Animals and barbarians, they have no place in modern society, they are disgrace to Pakistan and more Importantly they are disgrace to Islam.

what are you talking about ..an average tlp molvi/mullah can talk better and is far more articulate when compared to all the politicians and military generals in our national language and its not a joke when i say that . all this crap about education of molvis being insufficient is mere a good feel thing of seculars. yes they may not know english but thats not the communication language of pakistani public .

as for your second part all of what you says they have done is just something which the state have fed . its just one side of the story . i have seen enough footage of how the police was beating and firing on ppl . and burning things so they could blame TLP. we all know how the status quo forces play their dirty games. and most of all TLP as a political party have the right to stage protest like ppp or pmln or 126 days pti dans party in islamabad. gov had no right to use force and make propaganda when ppl react against aggression , you know what is disgrace to islam ..not keeping your promise like liberal and seculars have not kept theirs.

@The Eagle @waz @WebMaster
please do something about these pseudo takfiris, they are creating a stench worse than the rotting sewer during summer!

why are your crying ? some dogs keep asking for blood of innocents here because those ppl are religious and i am not even allowed to talk in general terms ?! its again shows how fucked up things are and that there can be no debate or talks . seculars and molvi haters talk about freedom bla bla but when others want to say their opinion you want them shut or killed ,like you have done in egypt ,in algeria and countless other places to muslim voices and banned their party but when muslims reacts to seculars in violent ways you cry terrorism

 

[Enigma SIG]

can you believe ,a nation which calls itself Islamic republic ,killing its own ppl because they demand french ambassador to be kicked out?

Oh the irony.

TLP are the ones spreading chaos and HAVE killed policemen. If this isn't insurrection I am not sure what is.
Articulate molvis? Hell yeah they can articulate fanaticism at the flick of the switch. Funnily the mob following TLP isn't articulate enough to not think before killing and burning fellow Muslim's properties. Or did they think they were in fuggin France?

 

[Hassan90]

Oh the irony.

TLP are the ones spreading chaos and HAVE killed policemen. If this isn't insurrection I am not sure what is.
Articulate molvis? Hell yeah they can articulate fanaticism at the flick of the switch. Funnily the mob following TLP isn't articulate enough to not think before killing and burning fellow Muslim's properties. Or did they think they were in fuggin France?

BS ,they were blocking roads like all the parties do when they protest but hey, they are poor and weak and above all religious molvis ,so lets go and use punjab ghunda police and gullu butts to beat the shit out of them ..seculars are such a big lairs. all the burning is done on purpose by the estabelished orde to discredit TLP . TLP is going to be biggest partiy if this keeps going and every political party and generals fear that . stop all the tear bs ..everybody knows that uturn munafiq khan has lied . he did not keep his promise . what happend after that is of no matter .. btw tlp lost 2 dozen ppl ,in which there were 12 year old kid but hey you wont know that and wont bother to show your tear for that kid .

 

[Enigma SIG]

seculars are such a big lairs

Why are you in the Netherlands then lol.
For all we know TLP shot their people themselves. We all saw how the mob zeroed in the policemen in the video from Lahore; so stop with your faux indignation.

 

[Hassan90]

for ppl who says ppl were dying in ambulances

https://www.facebook.com/mabubakar.siddiq.79/posts/3181264148812961

the driver of this ambulance said on the record that he got the order to stay there by our dirty liberal establishment and even sami ibrahim , who is one and the only pakistani journalist who had the courage to say some truth ,confirmed this on his show . so anybody believing government version is just being dishonest.

https://www.facebook.com/mabubakar.siddiq.79/posts/3179523402320369

 

[Hassan90]

Why are you in the Netherlands then lol.
For all we know TLP shot their people themselves. We all saw how the mob zeroed in the policemen in the video from Lahore; so stop with your faux indignation.

there is alot of difference in secularism of these nations and our brownsahibs secularism . whites unlike our seculars or liberals are not dishonest against ppl living in their own country while our seculars sell there whole nation and ppl for couple of dollars and are mostly barbaric to their subjects(sisi,assad,musharraf,saddam etc ) our seculars are anti religious while these seculars dont give a shit(mostly) . our seculars have the itch to show there loyalty to foreigners while these seculars are loyal to there own nation and ppl. our seculars only come one street when its about dancing naked or demanding sex and gay right while here seculars come one street for all the injustice being done to anybody . so in that sense these secular are blessing for their ppl and our seculars are a liability to the nation and its ppl .

 

[Enigma SIG]

there is alot of difference in secularism of these nations and our brownsahibs secularism . whites unlike our seculars or liberals are not dishonest against ppl living in their own country while our seculars sell there whole nation and ppl for couple of dollars and are mostly barbaric to their subjects(sisi,assad,musharraf,saddam etc ) our seculars are anti religious while these seculars dont give a shit(mostly) . our seculars have the itch to show there loyalty to foreigners while these seculars are loyal to there own nation and ppl. our seculars only come one street when its about dancing naked or demanding sex and gay right while here seculars come one street for all the injustice being done to anybody . so in that sense these secular are blessing for their ppl and our seculars are a liability to the nation and its ppl .

That's quite a mouthful yo.
Chill out, stop seeing things in black and white. Being secular and liberal aren't always mutually exclusive. You can be a person of faith while being secular.

 

[Hassan90]

That's quite a mouthful yo.
Chill out, stop seeing things in black and white. Being secular and liberal aren't always mutually exclusive. You can be a person of faith while being secular.

not when you are secular in an islamic nation .. when you are born in islamic nation then you look for help from foreign nations as a secular person ,to mantain secular lifestyle.. and you can mantain that only by being ruthless to any religous party or person and play dirty games(assad,sisi,saddam ,musharraf etc again_).

its not seculars fault ,they were just born in the wrong place and unfortunately ppl have to be butchered so a tiny percentage of total population(seculars )can rule over the nation and take decisions for its ''welbeing''.

 

[Saifullah]

That's quite a mouthful yo.
Chill out, stop seeing things in black and white. Being secular and liberal aren't always mutually exclusive. You can be a person of faith while being secular.

Yup you can be Hindu, Christian or Buddhist etc but a momin cannot be a secular according to the teachings of Islam. You have plain ayats of Quran and quite many Ahadis mentioning it. History of our Prophet (SAW) and lifes of companions tell us the story that their stance was otherwise.

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And lets see for how much more time members of this forum can be dishonest and not put information of other side as well regarding this dharna.

 

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[PakCan]

Anyone who thinks that TLP is a Islamic organization needs to really reexamine their faith. This is pure fitnah in the name of Islam, trying to impose their will on the state. This is not liberal VS Islam, this is trying to save the country from mullahism. Pakistan is a Islamic nation that just has Muslims and Islam is slowly disappearing. We really need to build strong foundations from holy Qur'an and Sunnah if we are to survive as a Islamic country. Great move by the state, need to be consistent now.

 

[AbuzarIlyas]

This is a step taken on personal wish of PM or probably COAS or on the advise of some ministers in the cabinet but not a legal way to do this.

The TLP is registered in ECP. They honor the constitution of Pakistan and their forefathers were those who participated with QUAID E AZAM in Pakistan Movement. Labelling them as "terrorists" on the basis of few unproven videos and images is a sheer political revenge, and if Gen Bajwa and Gen Faiz are on same page with IK in this issue, then it is again a blunder in making where you are labelling your supporters in War against Terrorists as terrorists. We are still dealing with the mess created by wrong policies of Zia and Musharraf. It will be another wrong step in the history of Pakistan.

Second thing, the suppression of voice on mainstream media, social media urges them to record their protest on roads. No media uses their name even when they get 2.5 million National Assembly and 5.5 million provincial assemblies votes. If there were videos and images regarding violence, the govt should have taken the matter to the court and through proper channel but in Pakistan, the govt is becoming a fascist party where everyone is bad except the PTI, its ministers and its supporters.

This is a bad patch in the history of Pakistan where courts, ECP every institution is being bypassed to drill the political opponents.

Bad move, this will harm them in the long run. They are not PTM, TLP has HUGE support.

These ulema and awam of Ahle Sunnat issued fatawas in support of Pakistan Army in a 15 years long fierce war against TTP. Dozens of Sunni madaris were hit by suicide blasts and thousands of molvis died for their love for Pakistan and Pakistan Army. This is a biggest mistake the establishment is making against their ideological supporters.