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Breaking News: Iranian boat fired missile at US drone prior to tanker attack, US official says

In that case then you would`ve seen a blockade of the hormuz strait
He does not have guts for it. Khamenaist tactics is always use terror and proxy.

which not only would`ve at a stroke cut off well over half of the oil being exported from the region,but also would`ve caused real problems and disruption to all the imports that the gulf states need for their very survival.That would`ve been a far more effective act than small explosives planted on a couple of ships above the waterline.
1) Its much easier to install mine above waterline.
2) Small mine above waterline is much more effective because it can set a fire.
 
He does not have guts for it. Khamenaist tactics is always use terror and proxy.

Well,if you say so then I guess I`ll just have to take your word for that.[LOL!]:p:

1) Its much easier to install mine above waterline.
2) Small mine above waterline is much more effective because it can set a fire.

1.It may be "easy",but its far,far less effective militarily.Do you really think that the iranians are so fvcking incompetent that they couldnt emplace a mine below the waterline if they wanted to?.
2.The whole point of putting a mine below the waterline is the greatly enhanced blast effect due to the incompressibility of the water,not to mention of course the increased flooding of the vessel that results from opening the hull below the waterline.
This whole attack has the look and feel of a botched attempt at a "false flag" style pretext operation thats been carried out by incompetent military amateurs,ie one of the gulf state militaries.Certainly the small amount of easily repairable damage to at least one of the vessels suggests this possibility,oh and of course the iranians would have to be pretty damn stupid to bomb a japanese tanker right when japans pm abe was visiting iran.Indeed the timing of this alone is hugely suspicious.
 
Well,if you say so then I guess I`ll just have to take your word for that.[LOL!]:p:
Here simple example: For 40 years Khamenaistic regime hysterically screams that it will destroy Israel and liberate Jerusalem. Yet during all that time they did not dare to send ONE SOLDIER against Israel. I repeat: not even ONE SOLDIER. Even Cuba sent soldiers against Israel. While Khamenaistic regime uses only terror and proxies.

1.It may be "easy",but its far,far less effective militarily.Do you really think that the iranians are so fvcking incompetent that they couldnt emplace a mine below the waterline if they wanted to?.
Its both easy and effective.

2.The whole point of putting a mine below the waterline is the greatly enhanced blast effect due to the incompressibility of the water,not to mention of course the increased flooding of the vessel that results from opening the hull below the waterline.
Tankers have double hull. Penetrating it with small mine is very hard. Even if u make a small hole in second hull it will have zero effect on 200 meter monster.

On the other hand even small hole over waterline can create a fire and cause huge damage (what actually happened to Altair).

This whole attack has the look and feel of a botched attempt at a "false flag" style pretext operation thats been carried out by incompetent military amateurs,ie one of the gulf state militaries.
Khamenaistic terrorists are extremely incompetent. For example this Khamenaistic terrorists tried to attack Israeli ambassador in Thailand and instead blew his own legs:

saeid-moradi-an-iranian-suspected-of-involvement-in-february-2012-picture-id177187754


Or recently two Khamenaistic agents were arrested in Argentine with poorly forged Israeli passports. They were so amateurish that had lots of silly spell mistakes (even google translate would do better).

What about this?


It would be impossible even even in most retarded African country, yet happened in Khamenaistic Iran.

Anyway. Khamenai openly threatened than if US blocks Iranian oil export they will block neutral oil export from the Gulf (which is pure terrorism). They just do what they promised to do.

US already blocked more than 80% of Iranian oil export.

Certainly the small amount of easily repairable damage to at least one of the vessels suggests this possibility,oh and of course the iranians would have to be pretty damn stupid to bomb a japanese tanker right when japans pm abe was visiting iran.Indeed the timing of this alone is hugely suspicious.
Well it can be one of two:
1) Typical terrorist negotiation: buy oil from us or else.
2) They simply did not know who they are attacking (ships carried Panama and Carribean flags).

Most probably its a combination of both.
 
Speaking of guts, why does Israel always need America to fight her enemies? In the current Gulf dispute, Israel is hiding behind the US. When it was time to invade Iraq, Israel got the USA to attack Iraq. So if we're talking about guts, shouldn't Israel fight its own wars instead of getting US do its bidding?

He does not have guts for it. Khamenaist tactics is always use terror and proxy.


1) Its much easier to install mine above waterline.
2) Small mine above waterline is much more effective because it can set a fire.
 
Here simple example: For 40 years Khamenaistic regime hysterically screams that it will destroy Israel and liberate Jerusalem. Yet during all that time they did not dare to send ONE SOLDIER against Israel. I repeat: not even ONE SOLDIER. Even Cuba sent soldiers against Israel. While Khamenaistic regime uses only terror and proxies.


Its both easy and effective.


Tankers have double hull. Penetrating it with small mine is very hard. Even if u make a small hole in second hull it will have zero effect on 200 meter monster.

On the other hand even small hole over waterline can create a fire and cause huge damage (what actually happened to Altair).


Khamenaistic terrorists are extremely incompetent. For example this Khamenaistic terrorists tried to attack Israeli ambassador in Thailand and instead blew his own legs:

saeid-moradi-an-iranian-suspected-of-involvement-in-february-2012-picture-id177187754


Or recently two Khamenaistic agents were arrested in Argentine with poorly forged Israeli passports. They were so amateurish that had lots of silly spell mistakes (even google translate would do better).

What about this?


It would be impossible even even in most retarded African country, yet happened in Khamenaistic Iran.

Anyway. Khamenai openly threatened than if US blocks Iranian oil export they will block neutral oil export from the Gulf (which is pure terrorism). They just do what they promised to do.

US already blocked more than 80% of Iranian oil export.


Well it can be one of two:
1) Typical terrorist negotiation: buy oil from us or else.
2) They simply did not know who they are attacking (ships carried Panama and Carribean flags).

Most probably its a combination of both.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
Several suspects were arrested, including Egyptian Jews and undercover Israelis. Elad and Colonel Dar managed to escape. Two suspects, Yosef Carmon and Israeli Meir Max Bineth, committed suicide in prison.:lol::lol:
Incompetent Israeli terrorists, captured during a false flag.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
Several suspects were arrested, including Egyptian Jews and undercover Israelis. Elad and Colonel Dar managed to escape. Two suspects, Yosef Carmon and Israeli Meir Max Bineth, committed suicide in prison.:lol::lol:
Incompetent Israeli terrorists, captured during a false flag.
You are so frustrated that need to recover 65 year old stories.

Speaking of guts, why does Israel always need America to fight her enemies?
Your question includes a lie. Not a single American soldier ever fought for Israel. More over, its most decisive wars Israel won without any American support.
 
You are so frustrated that need to recover 65 year old stories.


Your question includes a lie. Not a single American soldier ever fought for Israel. More over, its most decisive wars Israel won without any American support.

9/11 Commission Director: Iraq War Launched to Protect Israel: https://original.antiwar.com/emad-m...director-iraq-war-launched-to-protect-israel/

"Iraq under Saddam Hussein did not pose a threat to the United States but it did to Israel, which is one reason why Washington invaded the Arab country, according to a speech made by a member of a top-level White House intelligence group.

IPS uncovered the remarks by Philip Zelikow, who is now the executive director of the body set up to investigate the terrorist attacks on the United States in September 2001 – the 9/11 commission – in which he suggests a prime motive for the invasion just over one year ago was to eliminate a threat to Israel, a staunch U.S. ally in the Middle East.'

 
9/11 Commission Director: Iraq War Launched to Protect Israel: https://original.antiwar.com/emad-m...director-iraq-war-launched-to-protect-israel/

"Iraq under Saddam Hussein did not pose a threat to the United States but it did to Israel, which is one reason why Washington invaded the Arab country, according to a speech made by a member of a top-level White House intelligence group.

IPS uncovered the remarks by Philip Zelikow, who is now the executive director of the body set up to investigate the terrorist attacks on the United States in September 2001 – the 9/11 commission – in which he suggests a prime motive for the invasion just over one year ago was to eliminate a threat to Israel, a staunch U.S. ally in the Middle East.'
Only a total lunatic can believe that destroyed Saddam's army could pose any threat to Israel in 2003.
 
Here simple example: For 40 years Khamenaistic regime hysterically screams that it will destroy Israel and liberate Jerusalem. Yet during all that time they did not dare to send ONE SOLDIER against Israel. I repeat: not even ONE SOLDIER. Even Cuba sent soldiers against Israel. While Khamenaistic regime uses only terror and proxies.
Considering the nearly 2000km distance thats not really surprising,now is it?.I mean its no different for israel despite its threats I havent seen any idf forces in the persian gulf,unless they were guests of the gulfies that is[LOL!].Israel for its part seems to prefer to try and cheerlead the us into a war with iran.
Also there wouldnt be much point in just sending one soldier,now would there?.
Its not up to iran to liberate jerusalem and palestine thats up to the local population,however just as in lebanon iran can give them the tools so that they can do it themselves,oh and thats not "terrorism" or "proxies" by the way,thats aiding occupied peoples in their legitimate struggle for their right to freedom and self determination,you know just like the french resistance against the nazis or the anc against the apartheid state of south africa[israels good friend]....that sort of thing.

Its both easy and effective.
I`d hardly call a small hole that could likely just be patched in situ "effective",certainly not compared to below the waterline damage with its ramifications.

Tankers have double hull. Penetrating it with small mine is very hard. Even if u make a small hole in second hull it will have zero effect on 200 meter monster.

On the other hand even small hole over waterline can create a fire and cause huge damage (what actually happened to Altair).
LOL!
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!,In that case if it has a twin hull then exploding a mine above the waterline is going to do even far less damage than exploding it below the waterline where you have both greatly enhanced blast effect plus the flooding that will inevitably occur if it is in the engineering spaces ie engine room,not to mention that to repair damage of that nature will require dry docking at a minimum,which is both very expensive and time consuming.
You have just as much theoretical risk of fire from an underwater leak of oil,except of course plugging that leak becomes far more difficult,in addition with a hole in the bottom of the tank you cant simply pump out some of the oil until its below the level of the hole as you could do above the waterline,not to mention that pumping out the oil still doesnt stop the water from getting in.

Khamenaistic terrorists are extremely incompetent. For example this Khamenaistic terrorists tried to attack Israeli ambassador in Thailand and instead blew his own legs:
Or recently two Khamenaistic agents were arrested in Argentine with poorly forged Israeli passports. They were so amateurish that had lots of silly spell mistakes (even google translate would do better).

Still not quite as bad as this one tho eh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillehammer_affair
An innocent man mistakenly murdered by israeli assassins and if that wasnt bad enough 6 of the mossad team of 15 agents got caught by the norwegian police,even worse one of the arrested spooks was a claustrophobic and started freaking out because his cell was too small,he offered to tell the cops everything if they`d just put him in a bigger cell with windows[LOL!!]
And speaking of passports heres another zionist scandal from my neck of the woods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel–New_Zealand_passport_scandal

What about this?
Sure,tho last time I looked israel wasnt so great at building sh!t either,for instance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versailles_wedding_hall_disaster
OUCH!,Thats gotta hurt!,still thats what happens when you use a dodgy construction system and then decide to stick on another story...oh and then you go and remove the partitions that are the only thing thats taking all the extra load.....and then ignore the badly sagging floor that results.It would be impossible even in the most retarded African country, yet happened in Zionist Israel.

Anyway. Khamenai openly threatened than if US blocks Iranian oil export they will block neutral oil export from the Gulf (which is pure terrorism). They just do what they promised to do.

US already blocked more than 80% of Iranian oil export.
Yes,and when the iranians blockade hormuz and shut off the bulk of the pg oil exports then,and only then,you can say that you were right,but not just yet however.

Well it can be one of two:
1) Typical terrorist negotiation: buy oil from us or else.
2) They simply did not know who they are attacking (ships carried Panama and Carribean flags).

Most probably its a combination of both.

1.Just like the us and its economic warfare against iran then?
2.Picking ships at random to target seems like a potentially very risky idea,after all what if it turned out to be indian or chinese or chinese owned?,not to mention that this happening to a japanese owned ship right at the same time as a state visit to iran by the japanese pm seems like its one hell of a suspicious coincidence,dont you think?

Or its a combination of neither.

Only a total lunatic can believe that destroyed Saddam's army could pose any threat to Israel in 2003.
And yet that zionazi clown nuttyahoo was cheer leading for an attack on iraq:
“If you take out Saddam, Saddam’s regime, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region…the test and the great opportunity and challenge is not merely to effect the ouster of the regime, but also transform that society and thereby begin too the process of democratizing the Arab world.”
Boy,was he ever wrong....still what do you expect from someone like that,I`m sure that in typical zionazi fashion he was quietly chortling away to himself at the thought of all of the chaos that would be unleashed...and that the americans were so stupidly gullible as to actually go ahead and do it.
What a piece of slime.:bad:
 
Considering the nearly 2000km distance thats not really surprising,now is it?
Syria is at similar distance yet more than thousand Iranian soldiers including many generals died there slaughtering Muslim civilians.

I mean its no different for israel despite its threats I havent seen any idf forces in the persian gulf,unless they were guests of the gulfies that is[LOL!].Israel for its part seems to prefer to try and cheerlead the us into a war with iran.
Israel has zero interest in conflict with Iran. Its Iran who is attacking. No one makes Tehran day in Israel no one burns Iranian flags and yelling death to Iran.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!,In that case if it has a twin hull then exploding a mine above the waterline is going to do even far less damage than exploding it below the waterline where you have both greatly enhanced blast effect plus the flooding that will inevitably occur if it is in the engineering spaces ie engine room,not to mention that to repair damage of that nature will require dry docking at a minimum,which is both very expensive and time consuming.
Small mine above the waterline caused a huge fire on tanker. If it was bellow waterline it would do nothing significant.

Still not quite as bad as this one tho eh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillehammer_affair
An innocent man mistakenly murdered by israeli assassins and if that wasnt bad enough 6 of the mossad team of 15 agents got caught by the norwegian police,even worse one of the arrested spooks was a claustrophobic and started freaking out because his cell was too small,he offered to tell the cops everything if they`d just put him in a bigger cell with windows[LOL!!]
Israel was hunting dangerous terrorist who was hiding and concealing his identity.

nd speaking of passports heres another zionist scandal from my neck of the woods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel–New_Zealand_passport_scandal
So what?

Sure,tho last time I looked israel wasnt so great at building sh!t either,for instance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versailles_wedding_hall_disaster
OUCH!,Thats gotta hurt!,still thats what happens when you use a dodgy construction system and then decide to stick on another story...oh and then you go and remove the partitions that are the only thing thats taking all the extra load.....and then ignore the badly sagging floor that results.It would be impossible even in the most retarded African country, yet happened in Zionist Israel.
Construction flaws happen everywhere.

1.Just like the us and its economic warfare against iran then?
2.Picking ships at random to target seems like a potentially very risky idea,after all what if it turned out to be indian or chinese or chinese owned?,not to mention that this happening to a japanese owned ship right at the same time as a state visit to iran by the japanese pm seems like its one hell of a suspicious coincidence,dont you think?
Khamenai openly threatened to block ALL ships. That includes Japanese Indian and Chinese.

And yet that zionazi clown nuttyahoo was cheer leading for an attack on iraq:
“If you take out Saddam, Saddam’s regime, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region…the test and the great opportunity and challenge is not merely to effect the ouster of the regime, but also transform that society and thereby begin too the process of democratizing the Arab world.”
Iraq today is way more democratic than during Saddam. It wold be way better of Khamenaistic regime was not creating its sectarian gangs there.
 
Syria is at similar distance yet more than thousand Iranian soldiers including many generals died there slaughtering Muslim civilians.


Israel has zero interest in conflict with Iran. Its Iran who is attacking. No one makes Tehran day in Israel no one burns Iranian flags and yelling death to Iran.


Small mine above the waterline caused a huge fire on tanker. If it was bellow waterline it would do nothing significant.


Israel was hunting dangerous terrorist who was hiding and concealing his identity.


So what?


Construction flaws happen everywhere.


Khamenai openly threatened to block ALL ships. That includes Japanese Indian and Chinese.


Iraq today is way more democratic than during Saddam. It wold be way better of Khamenaistic regime was not creating its sectarian gangs there.
Sis, If we want to close strait, we would close straits of Tiran to Israeli ships not strait of Hormoz which Iranian ships cross.
For that reason our argument about Mossad is behind Tanker attacks is stronger.
 
You are trying to portray Iran as a country run by mindless barbarians, who would just attack anyone for any reason. If Iranian regime was actually was like that then they would have killed the captured US sailors 3 years ago.

As i said previously going by history there is more likely another false flag by the US. As for Iran benefiting from rise of prices, who do you think will benefit even more than Iran if the price of oil went up. wake your hibernating brain cells and maybe you will realize that a great game is being played out here and the script writer is the same guy that wrote the script for the Iraq invasion which resulted in the death of millions of innocent people.

Don't need to portray them as mindless barbarians when you saw what they did during the Tanker wars. You should ask them. The Iranian regime is not dumb enough to execute U.S. military personnel. They even returned them in few hours later because they know war will come if they didn't release them soon.

Well I looked it several time and every time he seems stretched out to me and what you see as kneeling under the weight of the mine I see as kneeling because the boat suddenly went down and he was not in a position to keep his balance .
Also can you tell me why in a boat that usually have a crew of 3 there is 12 when they want to remove an unexploded mine and can you tell me how they put the mine 3-4 m above water line without anybody became alerted by their presence .


Is there any evidence that it's not a made up story from Hollywood?
The only anti aircraft equipment of those boats if they have any is a manpad and I yet to see any mq-9 that flight at an altitude of 15km can be hit by any manpad . to be honest I even doubt any boat crew would be aware of presence of such drones in the area .

Boat crew not aware? How about now? You guys try to shoot down a drone and now you actually shot down a drone again.


If there is an attack you must see who benefit from it in this case KSA and UAE and Israel and some element in USA arm and oil industry benefit the most from this incident.

And Iran themselves claim they will show who is boss and you saw what just happened. Shoot down drones watching the Hormuz and attacking tankers.
 
Nobody
the ones that matter benefit


Not with Manpad

even if it was flying at 20000 feet or even 18000 feet instead of 50000 feet it was outside man-pad reach ,even if it was flying at 14000 feet it was outside the reach
Mithaq-2 has a range of 5km and flight ceiling of 4km
these factors aside the people on the boat had no way of being able to detect the presence of the drone unless they were looking at sky and were actively searching for the drone . so this id another BS usa story

explain what , can you enlighten us on that , how a manpad that was fired several hours ago if true could distract the crew from cause of explosion ?
Here:

"According to our assessment, a modified Iranian SA-7 surface-to-air missile attempted to shoot down a U.S. MQ-9, at 6:45 a.m. local time, June 13, over the Gulf of Oman, to disrupt surveillance of the IRGC attack on the M/T Kokuka Courageous," CENTCOM spokesperson Lt. Col. Earl Brown told ABC News this past Saturday.

Link: https://gizmodo.com/everything-we-know-about-the-u-s-spy-drone-shot-down-b-1835679194

again another unnamed official , how convenient .
Unnamed official in American language = official of an intel agency whose identity cannot be disclosed in public.

Update in this link: https://news.usni.org/2019/06/17/an...-proving-iranian-involvement-in-tanker-attack

@BHarwana
@raptor22
@925boy
@zectech
@Cthulhu

Still think IRGC is not doing anything, and US is lying? As I mentioned earlier, surveillance equipment does not lie.
 
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Unnamed official in American language = official of an intel agency whose identity cannot be disclosed in public.

Update in this link: https://news.usni.org/2019/06/17/an...-proving-iranian-involvement-in-tanker-attack

@BHarwana
@raptor22
@925boy
@zectech
@Cthulhu

Still think IRGC is not doing anything, and US is lying? As I mentioned earlier, surveillance equipment does not lie.

They don't want to be seen what they are doing in the Straits. Attempting to shoot down one drone and shot down another.
 
They don't want to be seen what they are doing in the Straits. Attempting to shoot down one drone and shot down another.
True, but the cat is out of the bag now. Updated my previous post.

Sad to see IRGC behaving like an rogue militia now. Much of the world trying to fix matters between US and Iran (Japanese PM even visited Iran), but IRGC just blew it.
 
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