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Breaking News: Iranian boat fired missile at US drone prior to tanker attack, US official says

Tanker was attacked by by US drone which fired at tanker, iran iraed to take out the US drone

Really? And Iran didn't say anything about it? Oh the Americans were responsible for the tanker attacks using an American reaper drone firing missiles at the tankers and we tried to shoot it down. They didn't say anything in the past few days.

To all the dumbasses that believe that Iran would be behind this attack on an oil tanker, can you please answer the following questions

1. Why would Iran attack a Japanese oil tanker?
2. What possible benefit does Iran get by attacking a civilian ship, especially considering that all the worlds eyes are on it and scrutinizing its every move?
3. Who would be the beneficiary of this attack?
4. Why would you even trust anything that the US establishment says, remember the Iraqi WMDs?

Why attack a Norwegian ship besides the Japanese? Probably don't care about the nationality of the ships. Why would anybody attacked Saudi ships or UAE's in the past? Provoke a war between Sunnis and Shiites perhaps? Are you guys true friends or enemies?
Didn't Iran threaten to close the Hormuz and reveal they are capable of attacking tankers. They've done it before during the tanker wars.
Iran benefits with rising prices and showing the world who is the boss.

You guys may attach a limpet mine 4m above water line we tend to attach it under water or just above waterline .

And this time USA admitted they had an armed Reaper drone in area . and the damage is consistent with what missile like hellfire can do and more intrstingly the japanese operator claimed a flying object hit their ship and old generation of limpet mines didn't fly I admit I'm not aware how the newer generation work.

By the way our mines are more than 40kg for God sake how some guys stand on tip of his toes stretch out and detach the magnetic explosive device of the body of the ship and do it in a wavy sea while all his friend are standing behind him ?

I guess by watching too much Marvel and DC comics.

At the beginning of the video, he wasn't stretching out on his toes. When he detached it, he suddenly went down on his knees. So its definitely heavy.
 
Seriously? There are so many flaws in your post

1. How would sanctions go away by attacking a civilian ship, infact even the countries that are hesitant to join the US sanctions will immediately toe the US line.
2. Guerilla war would mean that US already destroyed the Iranian military and is now occupying it. Which also means that the Mulla regime has lost power and has either been killed or hiding. Why in the hell would the Mulla regime want to lose power in Iran.

This might be simple for some people that have lost the ability to think logically and just blindly follow what ever uncle sam says. The reality is never that simple.

If it was an Iranian attack, the Mullahs can play the game of denial officially, but I expect that both Iran and the US knows what really happened.
As long as they can attack without proof beeing presented they are safe from the rest of the world.
The Mullah will weigh alternative outcomes, and might find an invasion followed by a guerilla war less likely, and therefore prepared to take the risk.

I have learned on PDF that the reality is very simple.
If there is an attack on the West, it is a false flag operation.
If there is an attack on Pakistan, India is behind it together with CIA and Mossad.
If someone has a punctured tire it is definitely a Mossad operation.
Russian Aircraft are better than those of the West.

kicking Yankees out, safety would come back immediately.
I was asking for a plan.
You are replying with a wet dream.
If the kicking starts, you are in trouble.
 
sounds fair enough

what is a US drone doing in the Persian Gulf?

US would not attack Iranian drone near California?

Amerika, not ok with Hong Kong doing extradition.
Amerika demands Puerto Rico to have extradition.

Amerika, not ok with a Chinese carrier fleet in Gulf of Mexico
Amerika demands China be ok with US carrier fleet or other fleet in South China Seas.

Amerika, not ok with spyplane off the coast of New York.
Amerika demands China to be ok with US spyplane off coast of China.

Amerika, not ok with military grade drones off coast of California.
Amerika demands Iran to be ok with US military drones off coast of Iran.
 
Why do we need to defeat Iran? We are a professional army who only fights for self defence not aggression. Between nice try.
you dont have the $ to fight a war against Iran.
 
you dont have the $ to fight a war against Iran.
We also never had the dollars to defeat India on February 2019 but we did it any way. If war were fought with dollars then USA would already be the winner.
Why do you think we need to defeat Iran anyway? Is there any beef between Iran or Pakistan? Nope there is no beef try focusing on USA and let us handle our own evil neighbor in East. We are already busy. Now regarding war if it comes trust me there is no enemy more furious and resilient than Pakistan in the world. Ask India we have been at war with them for more than 70 years now.
 
At the beginning of the video, he wasn't stretching out on his toes. When he detached it, he suddenly went down on his knees. So its definitely heavy.
Well I looked it several time and every time he seems stretched out to me and what you see as kneeling under the weight of the mine I see as kneeling because the boat suddenly went down and he was not in a position to keep his balance .
Also can you tell me why in a boat that usually have a crew of 3 there is 12 when they want to remove an unexploded mine and can you tell me how they put the mine 3-4 m above water line without anybody became alerted by their presence .

Really? And Iran didn't say anything about it? Oh the Americans were responsible for the tanker attacks using an American reaper drone firing missiles at the tankers and we tried to shoot it down. They didn't say anything in the past few days.
Is there any evidence that it's not a made up story from Hollywood?
The only anti aircraft equipment of those boats if they have any is a manpad and I yet to see any mq-9 that flight at an altitude of 15km can be hit by any manpad . to be honest I even doubt any boat crew would be aware of presence of such drones in the area .

If it was an Iranian attack, the Mullahs can play the game of denial officially, but I expect that both Iran and the US knows what really happened.
As long as they can attack without proof beeing presented they are safe from the rest of the world.
The Mullah will weigh alternative outcomes, and might find an invasion followed by a guerilla war less likely, and therefore prepared to take the risk.
If there is an attack you must see who benefit from it in this case KSA and UAE and Israel and some element in USA arm and oil industry benefit the most from this incident.
 
Well I looked it several time and every time he seems stretched out to me and what you see as kneeling under the weight of the mine I see as kneeling because the boat suddenly went down and he was not in a position to keep his balance .
Also can you tell me why in a boat that usually have a crew of 3 there is 12 when they want to remove an unexploded mine and can you tell me how they put the mine 3-4 m above water line without anybody became alerted by their presence .


Is there any evidence that it's not a made up story from Hollywood?
The only anti aircraft equipment of those boats if they have any is a manpad and I yet to see any mq-9 that flight at an altitude of 15km can be hit by any manpad . to be honest I even doubt any boat crew would be aware of presence of such drones in the area .


If there is an attack you must see who benefit from it in this case KSA and UAE and Israel and some element in USA arm and oil industry benefit the most from this incident.

Who benefits if no oil can be exported from the gulf unless they lift sanctions on Iran?
Does the US as a whole benefit if oil prices go up? I doubt that.
 
Iran Tried To Shoot Down U.S. Reaper Drone Near Tankers Hours Before Attacks: Report
The unmanned aircraft, which survived, was reportedly watching Iranian boats in the same general area where the attacks occurred.

Given the generally small size of Iran's various armed speed boats, it seems very likely that the weapon in question was a short-range, heat-seeking, man-portable, shoulder-fired, surface-to-air missile, commonly known as MANPADS, which stands for Man Portable Air Defense System. Iran's military and quasi-military Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) both have various types of these weapons in service, including locally produced clones and derivatives of Chinese models.

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Depending on the exact model of MANPADS, it's not clear whether it would be been able to hit a Reaper, which can fly above the engagement envelope of these short-range weapons. But the MQ-9 could well have been flying significantly within the threat range of such weapons in order to get a clearer view of what was happening below. The U.S. military flies other drones in the region that are smaller and less complex, too.

MQ-9s have certainly proven vulnerable to relatively limited air defenses, though. CNN's source also offered confirmation that Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen had shot down a Reaper over or near the Red Sea last week.

Social media accounts linked to the Houthis first began posting pictures of the wreckage of an MQ-9 online on June 7, 2019. At the time of writing, the U.S. government has not publicly acknowledged this loss. In October 2017, U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) did confirm publicly that the Iranian-supported militants had brought down another Reaper over Yemen. In both of these Yemen shoot downs, it is unclear what type of weapon the Houthis, who have access to a limited number of medium-range surface-to-air missile systems, as well as MANPADS, may have employed.



It's also not the first time Iranian forces have tried to shoot down U.S. drones flying in the region. In 2012, an Iranian Su-25 Frogfoot ground attack aircraft tried to bring down a U.S. Air Force MQ-1 Predator, leading the service to use manned fighter jets to escort them for a period. This harassment also gave added emphasis to efforts to give these unmanned aircraft their own air-to-air self-defense capability.

But, if true, this latest altercation is still evidence of a significant escalation in tensions between the United States and Iran, which have been growing steadily since the beginning of May 2019. It would also be an indication of the additional evidence the U.S. government has to substantiate its claims that Iran was involved in the attacks on Front Altair and Kokuka Courageous.

CENTCOM has already released pictures of what it says is a likely dud limpet mine attached to the hull of the Kokuka Courageous, as well as a video showing Iranian forces returning to the ship to recover it hours after the attack. Japanese shipping company Kokuka Sangyo, which owns this tanker, has disputed these assertions, saying that it heard from the crew that the ship came under attack by "flying objects."


There was already the possibility that the attackers might have employed multiple weapons in the attack, either to cause damage or simply to distract from the placement of the limpet mines. Iranian forces firing a MANPADS at an American drone could also help explain the reports from the crew of the Kokuka Courageous.

Separately, another unnamed U.S. official told ABC News that Iranian fast boats had been interfering with contract salvage teams attempting to begin work on recovering the Front Altair. The Iranians have reportedly insisted that they cannot move the tanker, which is international waters.

The Iranians have already taken custody of the Front Altair crew under still suspicious circumstances. Some reports say that Iranian forces threatened the cargo ship Hyundai Dubai, which had rescued sailors initially, if it did not turn them over. Other reports just say that the Hyundai Dubai's captain felt he had no choice but to comply with the Iranian requests to transfer the crew, but do not specifically mention that he was threatened.

Whatever the case, the sailors are now in Iran and it is unclear if they are free to go. Shipping company Frontline, which owns the Front Altair, has indicated that the Iranians plan to repatriate them, but there is no indication yet of when this might occur and under what conditions.


The U.S. Navy's Arleigh Burke-class destroyers USS Bainbridge and USS Mason reportedly remain close to the area where Kokuka Courageous was attacked, possibly to prevent the Iranians from interfering with the recovery efforts there. That ship is already under tow and headed toward a port in the United Arab Emirates.

The United States, along with the United Kingdom, has blamed Iran for the attacks on the tankers. The U.S. government says it is focused on sharing the information it has in order to build a "global consensus" about Iran's culpability.

Though Iran continues to deny any involvement in the attacks, the amount of contradicting evidence only seems to be growing by the day. If this latest report proves accurate, it would add substantial weight to the case against them.

LINK: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...rone-near-tankers-hours-before-attacks-report
 
If it was an Iranian attack, the Mullahs can play the game of denial officially, but I expect that both Iran and the US knows what really happened.
As long as they can attack without proof beeing presented they are safe from the rest of the world.
The Mullah will weigh alternative outcomes, and might find an invasion followed by a guerilla war less likely, and therefore prepared to take the risk.

I have learned on PDF that the reality is very simple.
If there is an attack on the West, it is a false flag operation.
If there is an attack on Pakistan, India is behind it together with CIA and Mossad.
If someone has a punctured tire it is definitely a Mossad operation.
Russian Aircraft are better than those of the West.

Whatever you said can also apply on the US and going by its history is more than likely that it was the US that did this, remember Iraq's WMD and the Gulf of Tonkin false flag.

As for your reality part, how about
When there is an incident in the West involving a muslim it is by default terrorism
If a white guy does it, then its either a lone wolf incident or a guy with mental issues never terrorism
If there is an incident in India it is always ISI and so on

So you see the hypocrisy runs in both directions not just what you think you have learned on PDF.

Why attack a Norwegian ship besides the Japanese? Probably don't care about the nationality of the ships. Why would anybody attacked Saudi ships or UAE's in the past? Provoke a war between Sunnis and Shiites perhaps? Are you guys true friends or enemies?
Didn't Iran threaten to close the Hormuz and reveal they are capable of attacking tankers. They've done it before during the tanker wars.
Iran benefits with rising prices and showing the world who is the boss.

You are trying to portray Iran as a country run by mindless barbarians, who would just attack anyone for any reason. If Iranian regime was actually was like that then they would have killed the captured US sailors 3 years ago.

As i said previously going by history there is more likely another false flag by the US. As for Iran benefiting from rise of prices, who do you think will benefit even more than Iran if the price of oil went up. wake your hibernating brain cells and maybe you will realize that a great game is being played out here and the script writer is the same guy that wrote the script for the Iraq invasion which resulted in the death of millions of innocent people.
 
Whatever you said can also apply on the US and going by its history is more than likely that it was the US that did this, remember Iraq's WMD and the Gulf of Tonkin false flag.

As for your reality part, how about
When there is an incident in the West involving a muslim it is by default terrorism
If a white guy does it, then its either a lone wolf incident or a guy with mental issues never terrorism
If there is an incident in India it is always ISI and so on

So you see the hypocrisy runs in both directions not just what you think you have learned on PDF.



You are trying to portray Iran as a country run by mindless barbarians, who would just attack anyone for any reason. If Iranian regime was actually was like that then they would have killed the captured US sailors 3 years ago.

As i said previously going by history there is more likely another false flag by the US. As for Iran benefiting from rise of prices, who do you think will benefit even more than Iran if the price of oil went up. wake your hibernating brain cells and maybe you will realize that a great game is being played out here and the script writer is the same guy that wrote the script for the Iraq invasion which resulted in the death of millions of innocent people.

Which is whataboutism.
It was argued that Iran had no reason to attack,
and I argued that they do.
You argue that the US and other have reasons which is derailing.

And no, the West has decision criteria for determining if a guy is a terrorist.
Anders Breivik in Norway met that criteria and so did the guy in New Zealand,
Other white terrorist include Provisional IRA, Rote Armee Fraktion, Baader Meinhof.
Your racist theory debunked...

Just another method to deflect from all the terrorist acts made by Muslims.
There are cases where the press initially has speculated about terrorist acts as a possibility, but later concluded it was not. If the Muslims meet the criteria, they are branded terrorists, if they do not meet the criteria, they are not.
 
Which is whataboutism.
It was argued that Iran had no reason to attack,
and I argued that they do.
You argue that the US and other have reasons which is derailing.

And no, the West has decision criteria for determining if a guy is a terrorist.
Anders Breivik in Norway met that criteria and so did the guy in New Zealand,
Other white terrorist include Provisional IRA, Rote Armee Fraktion, Baader Meinhof.
Your racist theory debunked...

Just another method to deflect from all the terrorist acts made by Muslims.
There are cases where the press initially has speculated about terrorist acts as a possibility, but later concluded it was not. If the Muslims meet the criteria, they are branded terrorists, if they do not meet the criteria, they are not.

Your argument on Iran having reasons to attack are frankly childish. Here are the facts

1. In 2015 US and Iran with the support of the international community agreed on deal where Iran will limit nuclear activities and will allow international observers. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33521655
2. US then unilaterally throws out the deal in mid 2018 and places sanctions on Iran for no valid reason. 3. Even the European allies of the US were against US withdrawal from the deal.
4. US then dispatches a carrier strike force to the region, a sign that it wants to escalate tensions with Iran.
5. As for the price of oil that you are using to blame this on Iran, here is a price chart
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Price of Oil was on the decline until the US broke the deal and the prices started to rise again.

Here is a chart of Oil prices for year 2019

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notice the prices are on the rise after the sanctions on Iran are placed but started declining at the start of June.

6. Here is an article about how much Oil Iran is exporting now, let me summarize it for you because i doubt you will even read it. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-in-may-but-not-to-zero-sources-idUSKCN1S911W

According to this report Iran's oil export has halved to 1Mil barrels per day and by May 2019 they expect it to go down to about 200k to 600k BPD and will continue to decline.

7. Iran's oil production has also drastically decreased. Another chart for you
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7. Guess which country came forward to make up for the decreased oil available from Iran? Hint, its a very close ally of US and most of the oil companies there are of US origin.

Conclusion: The attack on a civilian ship blamed on Iran will only benefit the US and its close allies but not do anything for Iran.

And no, the West has decision criteria for determining if a guy is a terrorist.
Anders Breivik in Norway met that criteria and so did the guy in New Zealand,
Other white terrorist include Provisional IRA, Rote Armee Fraktion, Baader Meinhof.
Your racist theory debunked...

Just another method to deflect from all the terrorist acts made by Muslims.
There are cases where the press initially has speculated about terrorist acts as a possibility, but later concluded it was not. If the Muslims meet the criteria, they are branded terrorists, if they do not meet the criteria, they are not.

Just watch this video and you will be able to see the hypocrisy.


Below is an example, i can get you so many more if you wish

1. Dylann Roof, shoot and killed 9 black church-goers and the news article says "church shooter"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.980dbeff570b
 

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