BREAKING: Manchester Arena blast - Several dead after explosion at concert

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Here is the Cycle of war


WAR
---------------DESTROYS STABLE GOVERNMENTS
-------------------------CREATES UNSTABLE CITIES
--------------------------------------ROUGES / CITIZENS have civil war
-------------------------------------------------------CHAOS leads to extreme views
--------------------------------------------------------------Extremism expands
------------------------------------------------------------------Population demographic emerges with mental(Stress) issues

Extreme views on life and death don't come from Religion , but emerge from Ashes of fire in towns and cities.



Before Iraq was destabalized , in all honesty me as a Pakistani Muslim never even knew Iraq had Shia/Sunni population , it was 100% stable and quite normal country

In this case the guilty is from Libya, Before in France it was someone from Syria

• Seems like their is a trend related to war and crimes

Obviously people who commit Haneious crime such as one in UK recently (Act of Terrorism) are 100% guilty but unfortunately they are a product of "WAR" not religion

When many soldiers of war who after retirement in western countries become involved in crimes or murders , they are called suffering from post war disorder. So if soldiers can suffer the illness why can't folks who were children or teens or youth during the time. Eventually some of them become violent as they age. (If it is a mental disorder for soldiers why is it not same for children/youth/teens?)


Africa has been Embroiled in similar cycle of war , and now world order is pushing to destabalize Middle east , well it is already destabalized ... not thinking about it anymore


Governments who started these wars don't necessarily have a memory or recollection of their own decisions , they seem to have short term memory. After the crime is commited (or freedom as some may call it). It is quickly forgotten who started the war.

Then all the ills that come out of that decision are quickly disposed upon the religion or faith of the other party



But Islamist/Muslim debat is quite popular in media , and most government officials are also cool with that story , as it keeps their bums from being exposed

 

[Styx]

Here is the Cycle of war


WAR
---------------DESTROYS STABLE GOVERNMENTS
-------------------------CREATES UNSTABLE CITIES
--------------------------------------ROUGES / CITIZENS have civil war
-------------------------------------------------------CHAOS leads to extreme views
--------------------------------------------------------------Extremism expands
------------------------------------------------------------------Population demographic emerges with mental(Stress) issues

Extreme views on life and death don't come from Religion , but emerge from Ashes of fire in towns and cities.



Before Iraq was destabalized , in all honesty me as a Pakistani Muslim never even knew Iraq had Shia/Sunni population , it was 100% stable and quite normal country

In this case the guilty is from Libya, Before in France it was someone from Syria

• Seems like their is a trend related to war and crimes

Obviously people who commit Haneious crime such as one in UK recently (Act of Terrorism) are 100% guilty but unfortunately they are a product of "WAR" not religion

When many soldiers of war who after retirement in western countries become involved in crimes or murders , they are called suffering from post war disorder. So if soldiers can suffer the illness why can't folks who were children or teens or youth during the time. Eventually some of them become violent as they age. (If it is a mental disorder for soldiers why is it not same for children/youth/teens?)


Africa has been Embroiled in similar cycle of war , and now world order is pushing to destabalize Middle east , well it is already destabalized ... not thinking about it anymore


Governments who started these wars don't necessarily have a memory or recollection of their own decisions , they seem to have short term memory. After the crime is commited (or freedom as some may call it). It is quickly forgotten who started the war.

Then all the ills that come out of that decision are quickly disposed upon the religion or faith of the other party



But Islamist/Muslim debat is quite popular in media , and most government officials are also cool with that story , as it keeps their bums from being exposed

Here is a list of wars the US has been involved in:

Everyone from Imperial Japan, who were nuked, to Nazi Germany, who were utterly destroyed, to Korea and Vietnam.. all of whom suffered greatly, but we don't see any "extremists" from any of those countries.

Muslim countries, otoh, different story.. so the problem is clearly not just war.

Why have muslim populations affected by war not been able to make the spectacular recoveries like in the case of Japan, Germany and Korea ?

The US took in almost a million Vietnamese refugees after that war, and that community is super integrated and are flourishing, no revenge attacks, no suicide bombings, no driving over people with trucks, or flying planes into buildings.

Europe takes in refugees like these Abedis from arab/muslim countries and you get 22 dead kids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism_in_Europe_(2014–present)

Then all the ills that come out of that decision are quickly disposed upon the religion or faith of the other party

Still want to argue that Islam has nothing to do with it ?

 

[Avicenna]

I think West should think twice of interfering in muslim countries and killing our muslims like animals .
They feel pain when they are victim of atrocities but yet blame those innocent Muslims as terrorists who are victim of same enemy .

This is a very true statement.

 

[EnggineerShahjehan]

Ok so which muslim country is next in line to be bombed? Libya Agian??

 

[Avicenna]

Do you know what the word "cuck" means?



This is plain and simple disgusting. A muslim targeted little children. Thats the basic line. Nothing else matters. You either distance yourself from that or you are the problem.

That pathetic loser was cared for in UK, fed there. He and his family lived there like parasitic leeches, protected by idiots who believed in that multi culti nonsense.

I thank god evry day that Italy was not hit yet. I know our secret service works hard to prevent this evry day.

I did think about what i would do if that would hit one of my family and loved ones. I could not live with that. I would chose Vendetta. And i dont just say that. I could not rest until justice was served.

Teach us what cuck means you little Italian Trumptard....

I'm sick of you right wing people be it Indians, Italians, whatever.....latching on to this alt-right jargon.

Enough with the Islam/Muslim bashing. And Solomon2, you sir are an intellectual troll of the highest order.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Teach us what cuck means you little Italian Trumptard....

I'm sick of you right wing people be it Indians, Italians, whatever.....latching on to this alt-right jargon.

Enough with the Islam/Muslim bashing. And Solomon2, you sir are an intellectual troll of the highest order.

You are a cuck. You dont need an explanation.

And who are you to say "enough"? We have freedom of speech. Dont we?

So far no one could explain me here:

Why dont Vietnamese blow themself up?

Why see we no Shinto terrorism?

Why has Europe zero problems with Vietnamese, Indian or Chinese migrants?

We can all agree a specific group has a massive problem.

So far we see zero self critizism. According to them evrything is super good and all that what is not good is caused by others. There is zero self reflection. There is zero ability to look inwards.

All we got as explanation here was foreign wars. Weather, and Burger Kings price model.

Can anyone here from this specific community maybe label 3 points within his own community that lead to such problems? It would be something interesting to actually see some inside critique.

@waz

 

[flamer84]

I find it insulting to the memory of the victims to say Islam or muslims have nothing to do with these acts.Islam and muslims have everything to do with it.

 

[Mamluk]

I find it insulting to the memory of the victims to say Islam or muslims have nothing to do with these acts.Islam and muslims have everything to do with it.

I find it insulting that you say Muslims have something to do with it. I haven't done anything.

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I guess they deserved it then.

Fueling Islamophobia with fake Hadith.
@waz this scum definitely needs a permanent ban.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

I find it insulting that you say Muslims have something to do with it. I haven't done anything.

And thats exactly the problem. You havent doe anything to prevent this. Its accepted in your group. Your silence is thundering applause. Silence is agreement.

But lets try again. Can you tell me 3 bad habits in your religion?

Any form of self critique? What do you think is inherit into your customs that promotes this behavior.

So far all i see is that you isolate yourself from it. All those murderers are civilized in your specific macro group. So what do you think is there?

 

[Mamluk]

And thats exactly the problem. You havent doe anything to prevent this. Its accepted in your group. Your silence is thundering applause. Silence is agreement.

Why should I do anything? The war is between you and Middle Easterners. It's not my war. I have nothing to gain - I don't get anything (money or resources) out of either the West or the ME.

 

[flamer84]

I find it insulting that you say Muslims have something to do with it. I haven't done anything.



Fueling Islamophobia with fake Hadith.
@waz this scum definitely needs a permanent ban.

Stop twisting my words,I didn't say all muslims but I won't burry my head in the sand and won't see radical Islamic ideology which inspires these acts.Islam or that the perpetrators come from the muslim community.There is a problem with Islam and muslim communities.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Why should I do anything? The war is between you and Middle Easterners. It's not my war. I have nothing to gain - I don't get anything (money or resources) out of either the West or the ME.

What should the west do?

Lets say we place security on Top 1.

We see there are zero attacks in POland, Hungary, Slovenia and Czech republic.

What is the difference?

And if we adress this difference, should we follow Poland for example in its approach? Poland doesnt allow muslims in.

You and others here say its not Muslims and Islam. But strangely Poland and the other nations i mentioned seem to have no problem regarding that. Explain it to me. If it is no Problem in Islam, how comes we dont see monsters smashing with trucks into people in Warsaw?

 

[Mamluk]

Stop twisting my words,I didn't say all muslims but I won't burry my head in the sand and won't see radical Islamic ideology which inspires these acts.Islam or that the perpetrators come from the muslim community.There is a problem with Islam and muslim communities.

Wrong again. There is a problem with people from certain region. But that region houses only 19% of all Muslims.

You are at war with that region. So you need to put immigrants belonging to that region under surveillance.

It doesn't look like the terror attacks are stopping anytime soon because it seems the ME vs West conflict will continue. But we non-ME Muslims are not responsible for that. The burden is on your leaders and on ME leaders to stop the wars in ME. They call the shots, not us.

 

[Styx]

Fueling Islamophobia with fake Hadith.

open your copy of sahih al bukhari (5590) and sunnah ibn majah (4020) and check.

you can check online too:
https://sunnah.com/urn/52420

https://sunnah.com/urn/1291200

 

[Mamluk]

open your copy of sahih al bukhari (5590) and sunnah ibn majah (4020) and check.

you can check online too:
https://sunnah.com/urn/52420

https://sunnah.com/urn/1291200

No one reads those fake Hadith.