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Yes I am. The Syrian model is the least damaging model we can adopt. i.e don't get directly involved in removing brutal tyrants from power, but limit our involvement and in case there's an uprising/revolution like it happened in Egypt. Tunisia, Yemen and Syria against these tyrants we should take a step back and watch how things unfold, and support those fighting on the ground without getting involved directly with our own troops.I agree with most of what you're saying but "adopt the Syrian model"? Are you serious?
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Sad as it may be the UK cannot completely protect itself from these types of attacks - it can only minimise them.
Almost certainly these attacks would never have happened if the UK did not get itself involved in immoral wars in the ME over the last 20 years.
The politicians who caused these wars care more for their political careers than say 50 UK citizens blown up every decade or so.
Not-so-silent Muslims
The world stands united in its condemnation of terror. REUTERS
- Syed Raiyan Nuri Reza
- Published at 06:39 PM May 27, 2017
- Last updated at 07:21 PM May 27, 2017
We need to be rational and valiant in the face of terror
Born a Muslim and practicing the religion of Islam, I did not find myself in the least offended at Piers Morgan’s comments in his Good Morning Britain interview on the tragic Manchester terror attack, nor his words in the subsequent article he wrote for the Daily Mail in its defense.
The crux of his argument being that we, Muslims, ought to step up our game in rooting out the evil of terrorism.
Far from being offensive, I merely found his words naïve at best.
Though it is not hard to see where such sentiments are coming from. Like him, and any other human possessing a shred of human decency, I too find myself in a mess of emotions contemplating the death of the eight-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, who was among the victims of this senseless act of carnage seen in Manchester.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims of the tragedy, as hollow and empty my words may sound. Given such emotions, I do understand the need to jump to conclusions.
But like my fellow Muslims — generously called “moderate” (thank you broad-minded and unbiased media, I guess?), to distinguish us from the extremist lot — I feel it’s hard to justify such sentiments. Because the God under whose name such horrendous acts are being carried out shares nothing with the God my brothers and sisters in faith and I worship save for the name: Allah.
The vocal minority
Let it be known that we are not passive in our feeling of solidarity. Our condemnation is loud and unambiguous. Or so demonstrated Heraa Hashimi, a 19-year-old American Muslim student, as she compiled a 712-page list of Muslims speaking out against extremism.
Now, her original Google spreadsheet takes the form of an interactive website that goes by the name of muslimcondemn.com. Also, it’s worth to remember how 120 prominent Muslim scholars from across the globe have already released and signed an 18-page open letter, in Arabic at that, steeped heavily in the nitty-gritties of Islamic theology to expose the madness of ideologues, to denounce Daesh back in 2014 (I refuse to call them Islamic State for they neither are Islamic nor a state, and to call them such would only further embolden their agenda).
What of Zeeshan ul-hassan Usmani, the prominent Muslim scientist who dedicated the resources of his big data company PredictifyMe to run information analyses to revel trends and patterns among the typical Daesh recruit to help counter-terrorism efforts?
And what about Mohammed Saeed, the very imam at the local mosque which the Manchester bomber Salman Abedi attended, who at a sermon chastising terror and murder under guise of Islamic motives or political causes?
Yet Piers Morgan claimed, in his own words: “I can’t do that. No young impressionable Muslim is going to give a stuff what I, a middle-class, middle-aged white guy, has to say about their religion.
But they might care what fellow Muslims who live around them say about Islam if an alternative view is expressed with enough conviction.”
Clearly someone has not been keeping up with all that’s been going around.
What we ought to be, after the anger has passed, having wiped away our tears and whispered our prayers, is to be the precise antithesis to the cowardly terrorist scum
Raised flags, lowered expectations
Elsewhere Morgan claims: “But I refuse to believe this disgusting excuse for a human being never gave a single clue to anyone around him that he was becoming radicalised.”
Except the community did report, on five separate occasions at least, as per a Telegraph article, to authorities on the Manchester bomber’s troubling behaviour and the home secretary of UK conceded that the young man was known to intelligent services.
With investigations still being carried out, exactly why the authorities did not act on the red flags raised is still to be made clear. The truth is, the remarkable way the Muslim community acted on Salman Abedi’s act of terror cannot be hailed as an example of how Muslim community should act. It is rare for prospective terrorists to exhibit the telltale signs of radicalisation anyway.
You do not have to take it from me, biased as I might be. But do take note of the MI5. In a sophisticated analysis based on hundreds of case studies in regards to British terror activities, they conclude that there is no single pathway to violent extremism, nor do British terrorists fit any remarkable demographic profile and are indeed a collection of diverse individuals.
So what are we to report on? Raising an alarm on account of any disturbing behaviour will surely raise false flags more often than not, and to say nothing of the mindset of paranoia that it will induce in communities.
Hence, Piers Morgan, and those of similar views do not come out as begotten or racist in the least, just outright lazy, naïve, and impractical. Piers does conclude his piece and says: “Be very … angry.”
Are we to conclude that anger alone will suffice? Will it invoke the dead back to life? Heal the traumatised survivors and their loved ones? Halt the reprehensible perverts and their disgusting acts of violence?
No.
What we ought to be, after the anger has passed, having wiped away our tears and whispered our prayers, is to be the precise antithesis to the cowardly terrorist scum, hating and deluded as they are.
We have to be: Valiant. Loving. Rational.
Syed Raiyan Nuri Reza is a freelance contributor. He writes from Tehran.
http://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2017/05/27/not-silent-muslims/
The UK is not under martial law.Putin: New World Order Are In Final Stages Of Their European Masterplan
May 25, 2017 Baxter Dmitry News, World 57
As European nations mourn their dead and prepare for the next wave of “imminent” terror attacks, President Putin warns that the New World Order are in the final stages of their “70 year master plan for Europe“, and the process will only speed up from here.
“The New World Order put hornet nests in your countries,” Putin told a Kremlin tour group. “And now they are poking them.”
With France in a state of emergency, the United Kingdom under martial law with thousands of troops patrolling the streets, and Germany and Sweden suffering migrant-related breakdowns of law and order, it is hard to argue with Putin.
The New World Order’s plan to fill Western nations with radical Islamic immigrants – against the will of the citizens of these countries – and then unleash hell on earth by “poking them“, has been achieved.
Putin believes that the open border policies forced on European nations must be rejected if the continent is to have any chance of a peaceful future.
“My European brothers and sisters must reject the globalist open border policies being pushed onto them by the elite.”
There is no place for sovereign nations in the globalists’ vision of the future, according to Putin. And the Russian president pointed the finger of blame directly at the Rothschilds and their cabal of international elites.
“The Rothschild-cabal have infiltrated your government, your media, your banking institutions. They are no longer content with committing atrocities in the Middle East, they are now doing it on their own soil, desperate to complete the plan for a one world government, world army, complete with a world central bank.
“They think they can do this by terrorising you into submission. Scaring you into accepting whatever new laws they will put in place to protect you.”
Putin issued a call to arms, urging Europeans to reject the siren call of the globalists and their death cult.
“They [Europeans] must rise up against their masters, who have long since stopped serving the people, and demand their voices are heard.
“The governments of the west are no longer hiding their true intentions. You can see the horror that lies beneath their mask. Keep your eyes on them. Don’t fall for their tricks.
“Russia will not stand by and allow its European cousins to be slaughtered and dehumanised like this. The battle is over. The war has begun. Truth and justice will prevail.
http://yournewswire.com/putin-new-world-order-final-masterplan/
Lol what do you expect from a conspiracy theory news media? That's their speciality.The UK is not under martial law
True talk. I will outline RATIONAL. That's the key word. We can't let some random attacks change who we are or those of our friends we interact with.Many wise words said there. Unfortunately none from Piers Morgan. I'm a middle class white Englishman. It is a strange concept that I am excluded from anything because of who I am. I have close ties with Muslims in my area, it is normal for me to get coffee, sit and just talk with my muslim friends. Absolutely normal. I dont want an overpaid idiot such as Morgan telling me how to live my life.
The wisest words are valiant, loving, rational
Something I find hard to understand is how our government allowed the leader of a known jihadist group to prosecute our former home secretary, over MI6 involvement in his and wife's rendition to Libya in 2004 after Tony Blair signed a controversial(for the leftist .lol) agreement with Gaddafi and launched a crackdown on this islamic extremist group. I know we are a country ruled by law, but still sometimes i wonder how far we must go in this regard.I take a wider view... we can all minimise the potential. That takes cooperation between nations. Less dead people in Pakistan, Bangladesh and UK. We all benefit.
As to your comments about immoral wars, I am a little more vocal, those wars were illegal. Of course that piece of vermin Mr Blair benefited from supporting the great war on terror. So did many others. Sadly they evade prosecution.
There needs to be a full withdrawal from the UN convention on refugees immediately. Many who claim persecution in their home countries are actually being persecuted for a very good reason. If Salman's father and the rest of the "Libyan Islamic Fighting Group" had been allowed to "disappear" in one of Gadaffi's secret prisons it would have saved a lot of trouble. I believe John McCain's friend Belhaj is actually running large parts of Tripoli at the moment with money from Qatar.
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Yes I am. The Syrian model is the least damaging model we can adopt. i.e don't get directly involved in removing brutal tyrants from power, but limit our involvement and in case there's an uprising/revolution like it happened in Egypt. Tunisia, Yemen and Syria against these tyrants we should take a step back and watch how things unfold, and support those fighting on the ground without getting involved directly with our own troops.
Anyway, what policy do you think would have been best for us to adopt in Syria. You wanted our parliament to vote for airstrikes against Assad? Note as I said before that :WE ARE DAMNED IF WE GET INVOLVED(imperialism) AND DAMNED IF WE DON'T(they are turning a blind eye to brutal dictators mercilessly killing their own people because they don't care about muslims lives etc etc.lol).
So if you were P.M what action will you take to avoid being criticised and chastised by both sides? Lol