BREAKING | ARTSAKH IS HISTORY / Azerbaijan won!! 🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿

[tower9]

Totally. That is beyond doubt.

While the Russians could have kept the Azeris in check if they wanted back in 2020,they are so pressed and their logistics and a lot of their weapons found to be so inferior compared to NATO ones,they need to reorganize themselves. I agree with you,the West never was going to do anything. And if you also think about it realistically,even if let's say USA or France or Sweden or whoever else wanted to help Armenians with weapons,supplies and men,how would they do that? They can't pass from Turkey,they can't pass from Iran,they likely won't be allowed to pass from Georgia because of Georgian-Turkish relations. Russians wouldn't let them pass of course. Nobody would let them land on Armenia.

And it's funny because apparently Pashinyan's government never really thought about it or they knew it and continued because they were sellouts.


Yeah but in the year that followed the war. Don't forget that!


Azeris outnumbered them in the 90s war as well. And in everything. Manpower,weapons,equipment,economy etc.

That’s the problem with these Soros Neoliberal puppets, they constantly do things against their national interests because it’s the program that was set out for them. It’s like they are robots. They literally run their countries to the ground.

 

[Trisolaran]

Well that was actually the victory. After that,they had little equipment or political will (with Pashinyan) to fight. I'm sure the Armenians would fight if they were allowed,but without the right weapons and support,they would have even more casualties. And after the war,Pashinyan didn't even try to approach the Russians to save what was left of NKR.

Pashinyan is now planning a stronger defense in Zangezur region with the demobilized Armenian Nagorno-Karabakh army ınstead of fighting a war he cannot win in Karabakh, His moves are treacherous in armenian perspective but there is nothing much he can do now, It was impossible to hold Karabakh after 2020, It make more sense to fight in Zengezur with more strong armenian army (with experienced NKR soldiers) + more open Iranian support.

 

[ziaulislam]

Totally. That is beyond doubt.

While the Russians could have kept the Azeris in check if they wanted back in 2020,they are so pressed and their logistics and a lot of their weapons found to be so inferior compared to NATO ones,they need to reorganize themselves. I agree with you,the West never was going to do anything. And if you also think about it realistically,even if let's say USA or France or Sweden or whoever else wanted to help Armenians with weapons,supplies and men,how would they do that? They can't pass from Turkey,they can't pass from Iran,they likely won't be allowed to pass from Georgia because of Georgian-Turkish relations. Russians wouldn't let them pass of course. Nobody would let them land on Armenia.

And it's funny because apparently Pashinyan's government never really thought about it or they knew it and continued because they were sellouts.


Yeah but in the year that followed the war. Don't forget that!


Azeris outnumbered them in the 90s war as well. And in everything. Manpower,weapons,equipment,economy etc.

Common please use Google

From 2:1 ratio
To 4:1
That's a huge difference and change

These are 2020-2019 numbers before the azeris-armenia war

Form twice as big to FOUR times as big
Or 200% increase

 

[Foinikas]

Pashinyan is now planning a stronger defense in Zangezur region with the demobilized Armenian Nagorno-Karabakh army ınstead of fighting a war he cannot win in Karabakh, His moves are treacherous in armenian perspective but there is nothing much he can do now, It was impossible to hold Karabakh after 2020, It make more sense to fight in Zengezur with more strong armenian army (with experienced NKR soldiers) + more open Iranian support.

What Zanzegur,the game is lost. It's over. They don't have the equipment to defend against all the drones the Azeris have gathered. They don't have the modern AA systens and EW to defend. And they'll be bombed to pieces again,no matter the brave resistance on the ground. Only if Iran sends heavy forces,then they can win.

Common please use Google

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From 2:1 ratio
To 4:1
That's a huge difference and change

These are 2020-2019 numbers before the azeris-armenia war

Form twice as big to FOUR times as big
Or 200% increase

Bro,just go on wikipedia and read about the first war. Just do it,you'll understand a lot of things instead of checking statistics on google.

That’s the problem with these Soros Neoliberal puppets, they constantly do things against their national interests because it’s the program that was set out for them. It’s like they are robots. They literally run their countries to the ground.

A friend had posted this on instagram:

 

[ziaulislam]

What Zanzegur,the game is lost. It's over. They don't have the equipment to defend against all the drones the Azeris have gathered. They don't have the modern AA systens and EW to defend. And they'll be bombed to pieces again,no matter the brave resistance on the ground. Only if Iran sends heavy forces,then they can win.


Bro,just go on wikipedia and read about the first war. Just do it,you'll understand a lot of things instead of checking statistics on google.


A friend had posted this on instagram:

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Sad indeed Armenia had rich history and pride

But pride can sometimes be your undoing

Instead of bargaining for NK they over did it and ate up a huge portion of Azerbaijan and now we have the end result when you punch above your weight

Everyone saw it coming except Armenia

 

[tower9]

Sad indeed Armenia had rich history and pride

But pride can sometimes be your undoing

Instead of bargaining for NK they over did it and ate up a huge portion of Azerbaijan and now we have the end result when you punch above your weight

Everyone saw it coming except Armenia

When you go to Armenian boards they still don’t get it. Never seen such a clueless people with zero survival skills. No wonder they have now been quarantined into a tiny spec of eastern Anatolia where they once proliferated.

 

[Foinikas]

Sad indeed Armenia had rich history and pride

But pride can sometimes be your undoing

Instead of bargaining for NK they over did it and ate up a huge portion of Azerbaijan and now we have the end result when you punch above your weight

Everyone saw it coming except Armenia

But they did bargain and Azeris didn't accept. I did show you some of the proposals. The Armenian one was very good,but the Azeris wanted the the whole part back.

Check out something else that's interesting:

"Historians to this day debate the reason for the Kavburo's last-minute reversal.[44] Early scholarship argued that the decision was driven by a Soviet nationality policy that sought to create divisions within different ethnic and national groups.[45] In addition to Nagorno-Karabakh, the Soviets also turned Nakhichevan, a region with a large Armenian minority population, into an exclave of Azerbaijan, separated by Armenia's border. More recent research has pointed to geography, Soviet economic policy, and ensuring close relations with Turkish nationalist leader Mustafa Kemal as factoring heavily in the Soviet decision-making.[46]

The creation of the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast (NKAO) in 1923 left the region with a 94% Armenian population.[47] The region's capital was moved from Shusha to Khankendi, which was subsequently renamed Stepanakert."

When you go to Armenian boards they still don’t get it. Never seen such a clueless people with zero survival skills. No wonder they have now been quarantined into a tiny spec of eastern Anatolia where they once proliferated.

Well man it's tough.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

Totally. That is beyond doubt.

While the Russians could have kept the Azeris in check if they wanted back in 2020,they are so pressed and their logistics and a lot of their weapons found to be so inferior compared to NATO ones,they need to reorganize themselves. I agree with you,the West never was going to do anything. And if you also think about it realistically,even if let's say USA or France or Sweden or whoever else wanted to help Armenians with weapons,supplies and men,how would they do that? They can't pass from Turkey,they can't pass from Iran,they likely won't be allowed to pass from Georgia because of Georgian-Turkish relations. Russians wouldn't let them pass of course. Nobody would let them land on Armenia.

And it's funny because apparently Pashinyan's government never really thought about it or they knew it and continued because they were sellouts.


Yeah but in the year that followed the war. Don't forget that!


Azeris outnumbered them in the 90s war as well. And in everything. Manpower,weapons,equipment,economy etc.

not in weapons, equipment and economy, Azerbaijan was dirt poor in that period and they didnt really have an organised army.

 

[Foinikas]

not in weapons, equipment and economy, Azerbaijan was dirt poor in that period and they didnt really have an organised army.

They still had way more than Armenians.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

When you go to Armenian boards they still don’t get it. Never seen such a clueless people with zero survival skills. No wonder they have now been quarantined into a tiny spec of eastern Anatolia where they once proliferated.

Turks are closer to Chinese than you can imagine. Survival is something Turks and Chinese know very well

They still had way more than Armenians.

bs. armenia got all support from the collective west and russia meanwhile azerbaijan didnt even have support from turkiye. They were totally alone.

I suspect armenia will make a strong comeback soon just wait for Dan Bilzerian and Kim Kardashian to arrive on the battlefield.

 

[tower9]

Turks are closer to Chinese than you can imagine. Survival is something Turks and Chinese know very well


bs. armenia got all support from the collective west and russia meanwhile azerbaijan didnt even have support from turkiye. They were totally alone.

Turkey and China both had large empires. You do not accomplish that without knowing how the world works and living in la la land.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

Turkey and China both had large empires. You do not accomplish that without knowing how the world works and living in la la land.

exactly normally armenians are great opportunists they always side with the stronger side. This time around they messed up. Turkiye has become to strong. France doesnt even dare to act.

 

[Foinikas]

Once upon time , they did. I pressed the trigger and Ortodox boy fell like a sack of shit. Don't worry it will be like that again. Just this time no more Mr Nice guy. You will get even more.
How Radovanovic wrote 1929 in " Merriage and folklor of the Serbs "
? Lights off and then group sex? Sex for a guest as the sign of welcome. You see , I was in Greece and I saw almost all people are Kara Vlahs , the same as Serbs , so the same habit. You see it is nothing new really. The first Serbian queen was Byzantine princess Evdokia, she ended her life like a whore in Latin Cinstantinopole. Her " Ortodox " husband married Dandolos daughter and took Papal crown. The usual high moral standards of Ortodox and Oriental Christians, don't you think?

1.Who's this "Radovanovic" and this very weird stuff he supposedly wrote,that nobody has heard of?
2.And one can go to Turkey and see all people there look like Western europeans or Greek or Arap. Yes,your point is dumb.
3.Easy to throw around the word "whore" when you pretend to be a pious Muslim,eh?
4.Dandolo didn't have a daughter,assuming you are talking about Enrico Dandolo,the Doge. He had a son whose daughter married Stefan Nemanja eventually. Stefan Nemanja never took a "papal crown",he remained Orthodox.

I don't know what kind of weed you're smoking. You can hardly type or use paragraphs.

 

[tower9]

But they did bargain and Azeris didn't accept. I did show you some of the proposals. The Armenian one was very good,but the Azeris wanted the the whole part back.

Check out something else that's interesting:

"Historians to this day debate the reason for the Kavburo's last-minute reversal.[44] Early scholarship argued that the decision was driven by a Soviet nationality policy that sought to create divisions within different ethnic and national groups.[45] In addition to Nagorno-Karabakh, the Soviets also turned Nakhichevan, a region with a large Armenian minority population, into an exclave of Azerbaijan, separated by Armenia's border. More recent research has pointed to geography, Soviet economic policy, and ensuring close relations with Turkish nationalist leader Mustafa Kemal as factoring heavily in the Soviet decision-making.[46]

The creation of the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast (NKAO) in 1923 left the region with a 94% Armenian population.[47] The region's capital was moved from Shusha to Khankendi, which was subsequently renamed Stepanakert."


Well man it's tough.

We all know that the Soviets created a fucked up situation for the region when they left. The same for many empires like the British, who probably created the greatest number of intractable conflicts in the world when they left their colonies.

However, when the Armenians had the upper hand in the 90s and even until the 2000s, they should've offered to return most of the conquered region back to Azerbaijan and retain the historic Armenian areas of Nagorno Karabakh. That would have been a fair trade. However, since then the circumstances and the world has completely changed and Azerbaijan became much richer and more powerful. This alone should have made Armenia hyper concerned about the shifting balance of power, but instead they elected a Soros puppet who decided to alienate their historic benefactor and completely isolate themselves in the region, while in contrast, Aliyev was making all the right diplomatic moves to make sure that if he fought a war, it would have the blessings of the greater powers in that region.

exactly normally armenians are great opportunists they always side with the stronger side. This time around they messed up. Turkiye has become to strong. France doesnt even dare to act.

Turkey's economy has been hit hard. But diplomatically, geopolitically and militarily it is probably the strongest it has been for a long time. It is no longer just an appendage of Europe begging to get into the EU, it is acting unilaterally and independently on its own.

Honestly, the entire situation has become very dangerous for the Armenians yet like children, they live in a fairytale.

 

[Trisolaran]

What Zanzegur,the game is lost. It's over. They don't have the equipment to defend against all the drones the Azeris have gathered. They don't have the modern AA systens and EW to defend. And they'll be bombed to pieces again,no matter the brave resistance on the ground. Only if Iran sends heavy forces,then they can win.

Well at least Armenia can rely on others in defence of zengezur

They still had way more than Armenians.

Azerbaijan had no leadership during that time.. Elçibey often called Turkish help and unite Azerbaijan with Turkey and Soviet based Azeri leadership didnt like that and Azeri general Suret hüseynov withdraw his troops from frontline and drive his tanks to Baku to make coup.. It was hard times for Azeris and Armenians were more united