Breaking : 4 Russian warships launch 26 missiles against ISIS from Caspian sea

[Adir-M]

Not so fast my friend...

U.S.: Russian missiles heading for Syria landed in Iran - CNNPolitics.com

LOL

 

[anon45]

Somehow I agree with you in most of the points...But, as American, our responsibilities in what's going on in the middle east are deep and wide...

There is more than enough blame to share between all involved parties, Assad, US, Russia,Saudi Arabia, Turkey, hell we can go all the way back to UK and France...

Unfortunately we can only try to avoid the dangers of known unknowns, It is easy to blame people/countries for not anticipating what can't be anticipated.

Ignoring the mistake of invading Iraq...
Our biggest responsibility was leaving Iraq in the state its weak government was in, but there are always compelling reasons.

without cia interference, afghanistan would have progressed a lot under socialism.



when was it ever aligned with ussr at government/establishment level??

rajiv gandhi saw pakistan as buffer against ussr

You mean if Russia was able to set up a successful client government? Sure, it would have progressed alot if the US was able to set up a successful client government as well. Its been in such a bad state that any government with a real economic policy would be an improvement. Unfortunately it is a tribal culture, not a national culture.

As for India, it is a fact that India has strong diplomatic, economic, military, and diplomatic ties to the USSR. I don't particularly blame India, but it is a fact.

Economy of India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Aepsilons]

Not so fast my friend...

U.S.: Russian missiles heading for Syria landed in Iran - CNNPolitics.com

Hmm are they not using precision bombs?

 

[jamahir]

You mean if Russia was able to set up a successful client government?

helped a comradely socialist government.

Sure, it would have progressed alot if the US was able to set up a successful client government as well.

sure, we saw how it progressed during usa's client government of taliban and then later with karzai... and we see the example of libya.

Unfortunately it is a tribal culture, not a national culture.

during socialist governance, cosmonaut abdul ahad mohmand went for a visit to the mir space station... despite its tribal culture, afghanistan was indeed progressing step by step in the 80's.

As for India, it is a fact that India has strong diplomatic, economic, military, and diplomatic ties to the USSR. I don't particularly blame India, but it is a fact.

receiving of subsidized weaponary and getting some industry-setup aid is different from aligning politically with the ussr/eastern-bloc.

can you give one instance of where indian establishment participated politically/militarily in conjunction with eastern bloc??

indian military participated in the korea war alongside the nato bloc ( "uno side" ) and against ussr... during the 2003 iraq invasion by usa primarily, the indian army was prepared to send 17,000 soldiers to iraq on request by white house.

Economy of India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

despite the notion of "five year plans" ( borrowed from ussr ), india remained the most capitalist society in the world... not only did one of the oldest stock exchanges in the world, the bombay stock exchange, keep operating, the social/political structure was capitalist.

the "green revolution" given in the section you quote was devised primarily by americans...
the "indian institute of technology" universities set up in various indian towns and cities were along the elite american university lines.

many industries were set up various european corporations, including by a italian businessman, quattrocchi, who was friends with rajiv gandhi... this is just a hint.

the indian paramilitary and police is presently engaged in a hidden war against the maoist guerrilas of the cpi-maoist along what the indian establishment calls "red corridor", a long strip of land from the nepal border to the southern states of karnataka and tamil nadu...

just one government force here, the crpf ( paramilitary ), numbers about 80,000 fighting against a few thousand maoists.

according to a study by a news channel, ndtv, 200,000+ farmers suicided between 1997 and 2010 because of indebtedness to various capitalist financial corporations - nationalized banks, corporate banks, microfinance institutions and the traditional private money lender... no socialism-influenced establishment would have allowed this.

many such things.

 

[BoQ77]

When you could dominate the sky and the enemy doesn't have the powerful AA system, just like Russia right now in Syria, you don't need to use cruise missiles.

Bombs are cheap and much more powerful.

So Russia did that to show the ability of their weapons, make them and their weapon buyers look strongers than it seems to be.

That promotes their weapon sale volume too.

 

[Godman]

Not so fast my friend...

U.S.: Russian missiles heading for Syria landed in Iran - CNNPolitics.com

Iran has denied those reports

 

[Dr.Thrax]

Over 1,000 Militants Surrender To Syrian Army In Last 24 Hours

Over 1000 militants surrender to syrian army in past 24 hours.Thanks russia for saving poor syrians. Shame on usa and her so called muslim puppets in the region who call them leaders of the islamic world.

Bogus source. If 1,000 rebels defected it would be worldwide news, yet only regime "sources" mentioned it and they never provided tangible evidence.

Meanwhile, 4 of the "precision missiles" of Russia landed in Iran.

 

[xperia]

Bogus source. If 1,000 rebels defected it would be worldwide news, yet only regime "sources" mentioned it and they never provided tangible evidence.

Meanwhile, 4 of the "precision missiles" of Russia landed in Iran.

Some of the american "precision" guided missiles destined for afghanistan landed in pakistan. Remember?

 

[Styx]

this map is innacurate

 

[jamahir]

this map is innacurate

took it from the easiest available source - wikipedia.

so what is the accurate one??

 

[Styx]

took it from the easiest available source - wikipedia.

so what is the accurate one??

I don't know but it's nowhere near that bad lol

 

[jamahir]

I don't know but it's nowhere near that bad lol

nothing "that bad" about it... certainly lot lot better than any saffron coloring.

 

[Styx]

nothing "that bad" about it... certainly lot lot better than any saffron coloring.

saffron or green, I couldn't care less as long as they're getting some valuable foreign investment and building infra, making it easier to do business and taking good care of our forces.

 

[Rangila]

2,500 km range, flying through Iran and Iraq

3M-54 Klub - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3M-54E Klub-S: 220km
3M-54E1/3M-14E: 300km
3M-54/3M-54T: 660km

3M-14/3M-14T: 2500km

 

[jamahir]

saffron or green, I couldn't care less as long as they're getting some valuable foreign investment and building infra, making it easier to do business and taking good care of our forces.

1. it is debatable what "building infra" means... i would speak for building ( free to public ) high-quality hospitals, schools, colleges, parks, locality-level vertical farms, drastically huge public tranportation ( bus ), drastically reduced singular transportation ( cars ) etc... others would speak for more ( useless ) software parks, private banks, car showrooms, more roads and flyovers that carry them etc... do you know how few are cancer hospitals in india??

2. "the forces" matter only when there is a progressive social/political/economic system within the borders to call worth defending... otherwise what will be defended ( like now ) - reactionaries and capitalist criminals like sks microfinance?? what india needs for the next five yeas is for the forces to turn their guns inwards and become a security force and eliminate the two types of criminals i described above.