Bogies imported from China non-functional

[ghazi52]

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Bogies imported from China non-functional​

PR technical staff working to resolve issues with the bogies imported at a cost of $149 million

BILAL GHAURI
January 03, 2023

The bogies imported from China at a cost of $149 million are unable to run on Pakistani tracks, raising questions about the efficiency and competence of officers who inspected them in China.

Sources told The Express Tribune that they needed to spend hundreds of thousands of rupees just to make the said bogies operational.

They also said that the maintenance work was being conducted at the Ski Line of Pakistan Railways.

However, they pointed out that due to improper pressure pipes, there was a risk of accidents since the brakes would not work properly.

Keeping in view all of these problems, the administration started the installation of two to two-and-a-half inches of thick pipes in the bogies here in Pakistan. These bogies were previously fitted with a 20-inch pipe.

Chief Mechanical Engineer Mohammad Haseeb said that the bogies were being technically fitted.

The 88 officers who went on a visit to China received $100 per day under TA/DA ( daily allowance ).

Bogies imported from China non-functional | The Express Tribune

PR technical staff working to resolve issues with the bogies imported at a cost of $149 million

tribune.com.pk

 

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Bogies imported from China non-functional​

PR technical staff working to resolve issues with the bogies imported at a cost of $149 million

BILAL GHAURI
January 03, 2023

The bogies imported from China at a cost of $149 million are unable to run on Pakistani tracks, raising questions about the efficiency and competence of officers who inspected them in China.

Sources told The Express Tribune that they needed to spend hundreds of thousands of rupees just to make the said bogies operational.

They also said that the maintenance work was being conducted at the Ski Line of Pakistan Railways.

However, they pointed out that due to improper pressure pipes, there was a risk of accidents since the brakes would not work properly.

Keeping in view all of these problems, the administration started the installation of two to two-and-a-half inches of thick pipes in the bogies here in Pakistan. These bogies were previously fitted with a 20-inch pipe.

Chief Mechanical Engineer Mohammad Haseeb said that the bogies were being technically fitted.

The 88 officers who went on a visit to China received $100 per day under TA/DA ( daily allowance ).

Bogies imported from China non-functional | The Express Tribune

PR technical staff working to resolve issues with the bogies imported at a cost of $149 million

tribune.com.pk

I am no salesman for China, but this seems to be a Pakistan problem. Obviously, the railcars work in China. If the gauge does not match China's standard gauge, the railcars should have been built in Pakistan so that they can be tested as soon as a few are built. Or else, the railroads should be built to China standard gauge. Honestly, how hard is it to build low speed railcars? They are no different from railcars built 100 years back.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I am no salesman for China, but this seems to be a Pakistan problem. Obviously, the railcars work in China. If the gauge does not match China's standard gauge, the railcars should have been built in Pakistan so that they can be tested as soon as a few are built. Or else, the railroads should be built to China standard gauge. Honestly, how hard is it to build low speed railcars? They are no different from railcars built 100 years back.

Thats what it’s actually saying, if you read the article.

The issue will be covered by under a million PKR.

I am no salesman for China, but this seems to be a Pakistan problem. Obviously, the railcars work in China. If the gauge does not match China's standard gauge, the railcars should have been built in Pakistan so that they can be tested as soon as a few are built. Or else, the railroads should be built to China standard gauge. Honestly, how hard is it to build low speed railcars? They are no different from railcars built 100 years back.

We have a white elephant that builds locomotives engines and boogies.

 

[jhungary]

I am no salesman for China, but this seems to be a Pakistan problem. Obviously, the railcars work in China. If the gauge does not match China's standard gauge, the railcars should have been built in Pakistan so that they can be tested as soon as a few are built. Or else, the railroads should be built to China standard gauge. Honestly, how hard is it to build low speed railcars? They are no different from railcars built 100 years back.

It depends on what problem is that, it could be Pakistani fault for not inspect properly or both Chinese and Pakistani fault, Chinese for building substandard equipment or not to spec and the Pakistani Engineer failed to notice the problem.

Not an expert in this, but it seems like this is a brake line pressure hose fault from the article and not a gauge problem. Which mostly point to the Bogey not built to standard. Because each country uses a different kind of braking system because of different rail gauge and speed limit, it should be build to spec. If not they simply not work. But on the other hand, there are chances that Pakistani give the Chinese wrong spec and the Chinese build to the wrong standard, but that would have been really incompetent on the Pakistani railway parts, because you know what you are looking for.....

Chinese train set have cause problem in Australia as well, the famous CRRC build Waratah Train were beset with problem that leads to billions dollar of remedy and delay in service, problem such as AC overheating, and don't have enough power to climb slope, and depends on who you asked, it's either Sydney Train fault or the Chinese fault.

https://www.manmonthly.com.au/news/...-problems-from-market-for-a-year-court-hears/

 

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Thats what it’s actually saying, if you read the article.

The issue will be covered by under a million PKR.


We have a white elephant that builds locomotives engines and boogies.

The factory looks like it is from 1923 or before. In contrast, this is a workshop in Japan:

 

[Deltadart]

How about firing those incompetent engineers who went to China to inspect these bogies? While we at it, get the TA/DA back from them, and and if they don't pay it back, put them in jail.

 

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India se hi le lo

Integral Coach Factory - Wikipedia

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made by desis, for desi tracks...

 

[Sliver]

The 88 officers who went on a visit to China received $100 per day under TA/DA

I am sorry - why would you need 88 people to go to inspection of a rail car? could have as well imported one rail car of the spec and tested it to the full spectrum before ordering in bulk?
that would seem most logical and obvious way to order in bulk?
did a quick google search on when this happened:

Pakistan Railways to Send 93 Coach Inspectors to China With $100 Daily Allowance

Pakistan Railways (PR), which is currently making losses worth billions of rupees, is going to send 93 of its officers and staff to China on a 22-day

propakistani.pk

93 * 100 * 22 = 204,600
sent in aug 22 - which is also during the forex crisis

 

[epebble]

I am sorry - why would you need 88 people to go to inspection of a rail car?

Holiday merrymaking on public dime? Like our Governors and legislators go to Europe and Asia to bring 'Business' and 'Investment'. Typically, for Washington State, that involves wheat and lentil (they obviously can't do much for Boeing or Microsoft - that is above their pay grade and needs the big guns from Washington D.C.). Whoever heard of 'marketing' wheat and lentil? they are basic food grains that sell by themselves based on market price.

 

[serenity]

I am no salesman for China, but this seems to be a Pakistan problem. Obviously, the railcars work in China. If the gauge does not match China's standard gauge, the railcars should have been built in Pakistan so that they can be tested as soon as a few are built. Or else, the railroads should be built to China standard gauge. Honestly, how hard is it to build low speed railcars? They are no different from railcars built 100 years back.

Yeah but to be fair the article puts the fault at the Pakistani engineers or technicians sent to pick the products and determine which ones to buy.

It's like buying the wrong socket for power outlet and assuming it will fit and all countries use the same power outlets. The guys sent were on $100USD per day and didn't do their jobs and that's the outrage of the article. $100 USD per day would be pretty high pay for Pakistan income level. Even for western countries, it is close to minimum salary.

 

[Genghis khan1]

How about firing those incompetent engineers who went to China to inspect these bogies? While we at it, get the TA/DA back from them, and and if they don't pay it back, put them in jail.

Kis Kis ko fire karo gy. Pur mulk asy hi chal raha hy.

 

[Paitoo]

This is what happens when you send 88 people for inspection instead of 8

 

[nahtanbob]

if the article is true it is incompetence on a staggering scale