Boeing offers advanced 787 dreamliner to PIA

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Pakistan - USA
Pakistan - UK
Pakistan - Australia
Pakistan - Canada
Pakistan - South Africa

PIA does not currently fly to Australia and South Africa. The US does not allow flights originating from Pakistan to land directly on American soil.

If the Existing 777-ER order even implements this type of Seating across the plane it would be a big success in Passenger's mind

The biggest issue with Long haul flights is the stress level on congested seating

These are not economy class seating arrangements. I don't think any airline would have the entire aircraft's seating arrangement in that fashion. They would lose a lot of money

 

[Moon]

the a330-300 is meant for mid haul routes it can do long haul to but that when it get expensive to do so

It's a Mid-to-Long range, it gets expensive (less profitable) to use in shorter ranges.

the a330-300 is meant for mid haul routes it can do long haul to but that when it get expensive to do so. which is why airbus has developed variant for the 200 series only which has a incread max takeoff weight allowing for more fule and cargo.
why is the relationship between boeing and pia not good. pia was one of the first airlines or order each variant of the 777 family. and the launch customer of the 200lr.
personally i forsee huge slump in demand in about 2 years. so i wont go for anything new as lessors and the manufactures will go all out to sell airplanes. you can but used 9 year old a330s for about less than 100 million.
heck you can go online and see for your self
View attachment 326834for pia. theres 2 options here. the safe option with good returns or the risky option with very good returns.
the safe option being is buying used effecient airframes a320,737ng,a330 and 777. and when there will be a slump much younger airframes will go on the market and will be depleated in value. or the risky method and wait for the slump and wait for airlines to cancel orders from lessors leaving them with a airplane which is not making money. thus leaving them to slash the lease of the airframes at a ridiculas rate and the airframes being the best you get the saving will be huge.

I'd say, just go for A-330s, why?
Because it will still be supported by Airbus, it has sufficient modernization plans in the pipes, and so if younger airframes go on sale, it's still better for PIA to go ahead with A-330s.
777 is also an option, but it's wiser to rule out both 737 and A320, both are getting older, with few modernization plans underway. 737s have earned a bad reputation in Pakistan, after the Bhoja Air incident.

 

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I'd say, just go for A-330s, why?

This particular offer is made by Boeing so PIA has to choose between Boeing airliners

 

[Super Falcon]

Atleast 2 can be ordered they are very very fuel efficient and passenger friendly fly it to Houston Chicago you get half price of aircraft in profit yearly

 

[Moon]

This particular offer is made by Boeing so PIA has to choose between Boeing airliners

It's customer's choice lol. The letter was sent as a request for PIA to purchase.

 

[TOPGUN]

PIA does not currently fly to Australia and South Africa. The US does not allow direct flights from Pakistani airlines to land on American soil.



These are not economy class seating arrangements. I don't think any airline would have the entire aircraft's seating arrangement in that fashion. They would lose a lot of money

Who told you no Pakistani airline doesn't land in the US , did you mean other then PIA ? because PIA does my friend.

 

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Who told you no Pakistani airline doesn't land in the US , did you mean other then PIA ? because PIA does my friend.

The flights have to land in UK. Then proceed to the US. This defeats the the whole purpose of PIA going for ER version of 777. No direct flights to US. PIA had purchased these 777s to fly direct to Houston from Karachi

 

[Blue Marlin]

It's a Mid-to-Long range, it gets expensive (less profitable) to use in shorter ranges.

I'd say, just go for A-330s, why?
Because it will still be supported by Airbus, it has sufficient modernization plans in the pipes, and so if younger airframes go on sale, it's still better for PIA to go ahead with A-330s.
777 is also an option, but it's wiser to rule out both 737 and A320, both are getting older, with few modernization plans underway. 737s have earned a bad reputation in Pakistan, after the Bhoja Air incident.

well it depends on opinion and choice really. but i would like to say i like the a330 as it part british and its has a great record. the 777's has got a good record too. what else can you but other than the 737 and the a320. also leasing very old a320's is not a good idea. yes its cheaper than the a310s but you need to look ahead.

 

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It's customer's choice lol. The letter was sent as a request for PIA to purchase.

Nope. The letter talks about PIAs current order of 777s which have not been delivered and is giving PIA the option of converting it to Dreamliners

 

[Super Falcon]

Want to see PIA like this

5 Boeing 777 ER
5. Boeing 777 LR
2 Boeing 787- 200
5 Airbus. 330
2 Airbus 350
5 Airbus. 320

 

[somebozo]

Its time to propell into the future and the substitution deal is well worth..if PIA has to be revamped..latest aircrafts is what it needs..to compete with gulf carriers like ettihad, emirates and Qatar..

 

[razgriz19]

Did any of you keyboard warriors paid any attention to the letter? Even Boeing admits it will be hard start operating a brand new platform especially a 787. Composite aircraft repairs are extremely difficult. I don't think PIA technicians have much experience with it, a single bird strike on the airframe would cause AoG for weeks!!
Sheet metal is much easier to repair than composite. I hope they start with well rounded training first..

 

[Thorough Pro]

Letter looks fake. Very unprofessional of Boeing to address the Prime Minister instead of the President/Chairman of PIA.

View attachment 326762 Letter


written by boeing to Prime minister Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif, explaining boeing's relations with PIA and offering of 787 dreamliner to Pakistan International Airlines.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well I think , Most Pakistanis who travel long hauls their #1 Complaint is No leg room & it is so tiring to travel between destinations , not to mention the long waits

If PIA can introduce a plane such as A-380

It would really be a great game changer

Maximum room & Good Seating in place

The Boeing Dream Liner Letter / Offer looks fantastic as well it is just I personally feel more comfortable in a flight over Atlantic with 4 engines (Personal Bias)

My Top Three Recommendations for PIA would be

1- Business class seating all of plane
2- Close to Economy Price to Lock in Pakistani Customer 100%
3- Discount for People over 60 year old , Discount price for Children Under 12
so these two demographic are compelled to travel 2 times a year to Pakistan

With "Bigger" plane all of this is possible

When a person goes to search for PIA flights from Western countries it is always difficult to find booking - and the #1 Reason is lack of Crafts

 

[The Diplomat]

Depends on what PIA requirements are. If it wants 777s, why buy new when so many of them are plentiful in the used market. The 787 would fill a nice niche for PIA, as it would replace the 310, but also provide long-haul to ultra long haul flights to Europe, Asia, and even Australia.

It would be an ideal addition to PIAs fleet.

I personally love the 787, the modern look and the economical, light weight means a lot of cash to be saved.

Well I think , Most Pakistanis who travel long hauls their #1 Complaint is No leg room & it is so tiring to travel between destinations , not to mention the long waits

If PIA can introduce a plane such as A-380

It would really be a great game changer

Maximum room & Good Seating in place

The Boeing Dream Liner Letter / Offer looks fantastic as well it is just I personally feel more comfortable in a flight over Atlantic with 4 engines (Personal Bias)

My Top Three Recommendations for PIA would be

1- Business class seating all of plane
2- Close to Economy Price to Lock in Pakistani Customer 100%
3- Discount for People over 60 year old , Discount price for Children Under 12
so these two demographic are compelled to travel 2 times a year to Pakistan

With "Bigger" plane all of this is possible

When a person goes to search for PIA flights from Western countries it is always difficult to find booking - and the #1 Reason is lack of Crafts

To be very honest we can't right now, not because of cost and all that but because of our national airports. Currently no airport in Pakistan can support an A380, the new Islamabad International Airport under construction will be able to support it when built but PIA will lose cash because it can only take passengers to Islamabad and if there is less demand in Islamabad that means less cash for PIA.

Which variant are we being offered? 787-8, 9 or 10?
Lets hope it's 10!