BNS Samudra Avijan (USCGC Rush)arrives in Chittagong to join Bangladesh Navy fleet

[Avisheik]

1. The "Padma" class patrol boats are short endurance boats that can't stay out at sea for longer then 7 days and not at high sea states. The "Hamiltons" can stay on station for more then 45 days, and at high sea states.

2. We need vessels that can be used to evacuate large groups of people from abroad. We learned a strong lesson when all the problems happened in the middle east and we didn't have the resources.

3. The actual running costs of these 2 are quite reasonable considering their age and recent refit. you cant expect to pay such low cost and expect latest tech. They were bought for a reason, and they fulfill them....you need to stop thinking about them as combat ships...they are not.

I spoke to senior BN officers when they bought the first "Hami", I thought what a stupid idea to buy old coast guard cutters and try to convert them to frigates....made no sense....it would be better to buy a single modern frigate then these. But when they explained what they were going to be used for it made sense.

I will condense as much as possible what they said to my questions...I had 2 worries a) Why buy the "Hamis"? b) Why are the Durjoy's so lightly armed? Why not just buy the same boats as Pakistan?

a) They wanted long endurance patrol boats that could be used to patrol the maritime territory at high sea states. The fact we got them cheap and can be used for evacuations was a bonus.

b) If you look at the Durjoy class you will notice that they are essentially cut down versions of the type 056 corvettes. The plan has always been to build up KSY, and the durjoys have been designed so they can be built at KSY and with the idea that this will help in building the type 056 at KSY too.

The Padma's are used for short endurance patrol (7 days) and close to the coast. The Durjoy's are meant to mid term endurance patrol's (2 weeks) and light combat. The Hami's and for long endurance patrols (over a month).

The planned actual combat vessels are, Durjoy, type 056, new frigates (either chinese or korean), future subs....etc.

The "Padma" class patrol boats are short endurance boats that can't stay out at sea for longer then 7 days and not at high sea states. The "Hamiltons" can stay on station for more then 45 days, and at high sea states.
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To my knowledge frigates, corvettes are all used for maritime patrols. And they can do so in high sea states. We are the only country, apart from philipines that has a so-called patrol frigate. Look at mynamar, indonesia, thailand. They have maritime boundaries greater than bangladesh but they do not have a designated patrol frigate with a single gun doing any patrolling. All of their ships are well armed.

Without any firepower added, this ship is a waste of space, resources and manpower.

We need vessels that can be used to evacuate large groups of people from abroad. We learned a strong lesson when all the problems happened in the middle east and we didn't have the resources.
2. Ok.....evacuations can also happen with a armed vessels as well. Look at the evacuations carried out by pakistan and india in yemen. Their specs are comparable to our own combat capable frigates.

The actual running costs of these 2 are quite reasonable considering their age and recent refit. you cant expect to pay such low cost and expect latest tech. They were bought for a reason, and they fulfill them....you need to stop thinking about them as combat ships...they are not.
3. And how long would the refits last? It is a old vessel, do you think there is much spare parts left in the market?

I expected bd to buy it and upgrade it in china, I did not expect any tech from the US. It is designated as a freaking frigate, i would expect combat capability.

No dude.... Absolutely no.... There is absolutely no point for any naval ship to be just patrolling without any offensive capacity .... That's the job of the coast guard ....

This is merely an example of BAL scums keeping BN weak as per their masters request ... The standard garbage of building up capacity for a future potent force is being used but every opportunity to aquire true offensive capacity is squandered.... A great shame

Thats exactly my point. We have a large ship which means we can place larger missiles or more weapon systems, make it one of our best armed ships in the fleet. But as of now it wasn't given any weapons upgrade.

Almost every ship in the navy carries out patrol duites in bd, and almost everyone is quite well armed. Why should it be any different for these ships?

 

[bongbang]

Why we never named any of our Ship to Baktiar Khilji.. ?

Its a hindu mythology that he was a mass murderer to cover their shame that an entire hindu kingdom fell under 18 horsemen.

He may be considered as liberator by the Muslims of Bangla with his 18 horsemen but before arriving Bangla he did atrocities in rest of India. Just imagine the scenario our ship arrived in a goodwill visit to India. And Indians will die in a panic attack seeing another Bakhtiar Khilji.

Over that, if Nadia(Khilji), Murshidabad(Siraj), Malda(Gaur) were in our boundary we could vehemently claim these as ours. But thats not the case. Rulers of Gaur and Murshidabad had influence over rest of our Bengal its not same in case of Khilji. Even after fall of Nadia, Senas kept on ruling rest of East Bengal of ours which is now BD. If you are calling about Khilji who was distantly related to us like rest of Indian Muslim rulers. I call it why not Akbar, Tipu, Shahjahan, Sher Shah etc.

 

[Nilgiri]

And Indians will die in a panic attack seeing another Bakhtiar Khilji.

Rather we will be chuckling at the lungis being aired out to dry on the clothes lines.

 

[kobiraaz]

Baktiar Khilji was a mass murderer who was fond of killing and looting in conquered land.Just because he introduced muslim rule in this country doesn't mean he was 'holy'. If we want to name anything in our country for any medieval muslim ruler then it should be Nabab Siraj-ud-daula as he was a patriot and wanted to maintain our independence and became martyr.Other most of the muslim rulers had no connection with this land or people.

Mass murderer says who? You? Who annihilated the Buddhists of Bengal? Khilji or sena dynasty?

Khilji was a common man who needed money to raise an Army. All these raids were very common in Middle ages.

And the muslim rulers dont have any connection to Bengal? Ever heard of Fakhruddin Mubarak Shah? Native of southern Bengal. Little learning is dangerous. Stop scking the balls of Sena dynasty who was from Kerala.

 

[kobiraaz]

He may be considered as liberator by the Muslims of Bangla with his 18 horsemen but before arriving Bangla he did atrocities in rest of India. Just imagine the scenario our ship arrived in a goodwill visit to India. And Indians will die in a panic attack seeing another Bakhtiar Khilji.

Over that, if Nadia(Khilji), Murshidabad(Siraj), Malda(Gaur) were in our boundary we could vehemently claim these as ours. But thats not the case. Rulers of Gaur and Murshidabad had influence over rest of our Bengal its not same in case of Khilji. Even after fall of Nadia, Senas kept on ruling rest of East Bengal of ours which is now BD. If you are calling about Khilji who was distantly related to us like rest of Indian Muslim rulers. I call it why not Akbar, Tipu, Shahjahan, Sher Shah etc.

Not bakhtiyar but khilji dynasty later conquered east bengal and turned it into their tributaries. We should promote palas and independent muslim sultans of bengal as our very own.