'Blue girl': Iran's football fan, denied stadium entry, dies

[Baba Google]

7th century Arabs don't get to decide the character of God.

If God is moral perfection then equality in gender and race is crucial. We are on that journey, thats what life is.

bro are you even muslim?

 

[Menace2Society]

bro are you even muslim?

Its a long answer and off topic. I am going to delete this comment.

 

[war&peace]

I can say the same for pretty much all the women in my family too, whether it's here or it's in pakistan. I don't know the women in your family so I won't comment on what they are and they aren't. But what I do know about ex-Muslims is that, the women in their families are normally still majority Muslim and if that is still the case here then I wonder why they aren't living miserable lives because according to someone like you, us Muslims just oppress women and we hate them lol.

Oh man, you poor guy. Claiming the women to be yours? There's none of that "my women" stuff with your western values tut tut...

Na man you're living a dream. I've seen ex-Muslims like you before. You guys use your imagination more than what is actually there. You lick up to the west and then hate everything about your former people. Seen plenty of this, you think you are superior or evolved or something else like that but you're nothing like that all. You don't know your environment, neither in the west or in the east.



If you are muslim and don't agree with menace2society then you beat your wife... Nice logic.

Man now you have him by his neck... now you know the source of hatred and lies.

Why do some Muslims always take the wrong side on these debates?

Its okay to take the moral stance, God is not going to hate you for it don't worry.

bro are you even muslim?

He is a qadiyani.

Its a long answer and off topic. I am going to delete this comment.

How is this off topic... you coward hypocrite spend the whole day bashing Islam and when someone asks you about your identity so call it off topic... just show a little bit of honesty and courage and reveal your true beliefs..

She wasn't mentally sick. And she was denied entry because she is a female... Yes, that's an actual law in Iran. Look it up.

If she was beaten by police then a strong action must be taken against the police man. But entry denials are normal things and even if she was denied because she was girl, there's no justification for her committing suicide.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Imagine having so little value for your life to burn yourself to death for a F#cking Soccer game. How pitiful!!!

 

[Menace2Society]

I can say the same for pretty much all the women in my family too, whether it's here or it's in pakistan. I don't know the women in your family so I won't comment on what they are and they aren't. But what I do know about ex-Muslims is that, the women in their families are normally still majority Muslim and if that is still the case here then I wonder why they aren't living miserable lives because according to someone like you, us Muslims just oppress women and we hate them lol.

Oh man, you poor guy. Claiming the women to be yours? There's none of that "my women" stuff with your western values tut tut...

Na man you're living a dream. I've seen ex-Muslims like you before. You guys use your imagination more than what is actually there. You lick up to the west and then hate everything about your former people. Seen plenty of this, you think you are superior or evolved or something else like that but you're nothing like that all. You don't know your environment, neither in the west or in the east.



If you are muslim and don't agree with menace2society then you beat your wife...

Man now you have him by his neck... now you know the source of hatred and lies.




He is a qadiyani.


How is this off topic... you coward hypocrite spend the whole day bashing Islam and when someone asks you about your identity so call it off topic... just show a little bit of honesty and courage and reveal your true beliefs..

Man now you have him by his neck... now you know the source of hatred and lies.




He is a qadiyani.


How is this off topic... you coward hypocrite spend the whole day bashing Islam and when someone asks you about your identity so call it off topic... just show a little bit of honesty and courage and reveal your true beliefs..


If she was beaten by police then a strong action must be taken against the police man. But entry denials are normal things and even if she was denied because she was girl, there's no justification for her committing suicide.

Short answer I have a belief in God but believe monotheistic teachings are corrupted by man which includes Islam. Hadith is an abomination and I have gone through authentic and so called unauthentic. The message is pure. There is a longer answer for another thread maybe.

The bashing fundamentlist Islamic thought gets is justified and it will become more intense as time goes on. This is the natural course.

 

[war&peace]

Short answer I have a belief in God but believe monotheistic teachings are corrupted by man which includes Islam. Hadith is an abomination and I have gone through authentic and so called unauthentic. The message is pure. There is a longer answer for another thread maybe.

The bashing fundamentlist Islamic thought gets is justified and it will become more intense as time goes on. This is the natural course.

@Horus why this idiot is even allowed to masquerade here

 

[Falcon29]

What's gonna happen with news like this:

1.) Anti-Islam will focus on it and take it as opportunity to bash Islam

2.) Pro-Iran fanatics will defend Iran at all costs.

...
...

The reality is media pick and choose what they want to go viral. And all media have an agenda. Al Jazeera is one of better ones for those that want news on the Arab/Muslim world. The rest of media outlets all have an agenda for the ME, like the Iranian, British and American media.

So people should approach every kind of news without an bias and give their honest opinion.

 

[Lincoln]

But you do believe in the khilafat system of Islam, do you not?

Khilafat system died after the rightly guided caliphs. If you read history, you will find how unislamic the Khilafat system had become, greedy rulers used it to keep power to them and in their families and killed others over it. It requires ideal people like the Sahaba, but such don't really exist now.

I can say the same for pretty much all the women in my family too, whether it's here or it's in pakistan. I don't know the women in your family so I won't comment on what they are and they aren't. But what I do know about ex-Muslims is that, the women in their families are normally still majority Muslim and if that is still the case here then I wonder why they aren't living miserable lives because according to someone like you, us Muslims just oppress women and we hate them lol.

Oh man, you poor guy. Claiming the women to be yours? There's none of that "my women" stuff with your western values tut tut...

Na man you're living a dream. I've seen ex-Muslims like you before. You guys use your imagination more than what is actually there. You lick up to the west and then hate everything about your former people. Seen plenty of this, you think you are superior or evolved or something else like that but you're nothing like that all. You don't know your environment, neither in the west or in the east.



If you are muslim and don't agree with menace2society then you beat your wife... Nice logic.

I am a Muslim. And I am not saying that just because you're a Muslim, you beat your wife. And neither is he saying that.

What he is saying is that stuff like domestic violence, beating your wife, and so on, are allowed by the state due to its backward "unislamic laws."

Some time back, a wife in Saudi Arabia filmed her husband touching up an Asian maid. She took it to court with the evidence. The court instead punished her with lashes because she filmed her husband without his permission. Such are the backward laws of Saudi Arabia.

And in regards to "can't say women as 'my women' because it's the west."

You're taking that too seriously, get off your high horse.

Also just because women in your house were fortunate doesn't mean women in every house are. You, and I, both know the kind of restrictions placed on women in Saudi Arabia and Iran by laws, and in Pakistan by social norms - so lets not kid ourselves.

 

[Falcon29]

Khilafat system died after the rightly guided caliphs. If you read history, you will find how unislamic the Khilafat system had become, greedy rulers used it to keep power to them and in their families and killed others over it. It requires ideal people like the Sahaba, but such don't really exist now.



I am a Muslim. And I am not saying that just because you're a Muslim, you beat your wife. And neither is he saying that.

What he is saying is that stuff like domestic violence, beating your wife, and so on, are allowed by the state due to its backward "unislamic laws."

Some time back, a wife in Saudi Arabia filmed her husband touching up an Asian maid. She took it to court with the evidence. The court instead punished her with lashes because she filmed her husband without his permission. Such are the backward laws of Saudi Arabia.

And in regards to "can't say women as 'my women' because it's the west."

You're taking that too seriously, get off your high horse.

Also just because women in your house were fortunate doesn't mean women in every house are. You, and I, both know the kind of restrictions placed on women in Saudi Arabia and Iran by laws, and in Pakistan by social norms - so lets not kid ourselves.

We need a lot of reform, and funny thing is some thing that it is by pushing ourselves away from Islam when we already have done that and that's why we are this way. We need to drift back towards Islam, and it's not gonna happen until Allah sends a rightly guided person to lead our people. Or the best example of a Muslim there will be. And we hope that time is soon but Allah knows best. Until then, people should look at Prophet Mohammeds(SAW) character more as he was rightly guided by God and he used logic/reason to approach a lot of matters. But, his logic/reason is in tune with Islam and what God deems the truth. It's not any kind of logic/reason. The rightly guided Caliphs, all the Prophets had it, and the Mahdi will also have it.

Btw, I used to be Menace2society, I lost hope in Islam and was saying similar things. So be easy on him he is just searching and I'm confident he will come back to same conclusion I did.

 

[24 Hours]

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Sahar Khodayari, arrested for trying to enter a football stadium, set herself on fire last week outside a courthouse.

An Iranian female football fan, who was detained for dressing as a man to sneak into a football stadium, has died a week after setting herself on fire.

Sahar Khodayari self-immolated in front of a court in Tehran last week after she found out she could face a two-year sentence for attempting to enter the Azadi Stadium to watch her team play.

Khodayari was rushed to a local hospital with severe burns on 90 percent of her body and damage to her lungs. She was confirmed dead on Monday night.

The 29-year-old was arrested in March while attempting to enter the iconic stadium named Azadi (Freedom in Farsi) to watch Esteghlal FC face UAE's Al Ain in an AFC Champions League match.

Since there are no written laws barring women from entering stadiums, she was sentenced for not fully adhering to Islamic hijab laws and covering her head.

Her family posted bail a day later but since the incident happened on the weekend, she had to spend three more days in jail.

Her family said the experience deteriorated Khodayari's mental health as she had a history of battling bipolar disorder and had attempted suicide before.

#BlueGirl

Khodayari was dubbed "blue girl" by Iranians on social media for the blue colour of her team's jersey.

Following the incident, thousands expressed outrage over a persisting stadium entry ban for women.

"One day, one of the capital city's largest stadiums will be called blue girl," journalist Mohammad Mosaed wrote on Twitter. "A day when even if we are not around, our grandchildren will remember what a difficult path we went through to achieve our most basic human rights."

Romina, a 32-year-old football fan who asked not to be fully identified, said Khodayari's case was an extreme one and she could empathise with what drove her to taking her life.

"This is extremely frustrating," she told Al Jazeera. "Maybe I would do the same, or at least think about doing it, if I loved something so much and I was told loving it would entail severe repercussions like going to jail that would impact the rest of my life".

An Iranian Twitter user wrote: "Why can a 9-year-old girl get married but a girl in her 20s can't go to the stadium?" in reference to a recent high-profile case involving a child marriage that was annulled after massive public backlash.

Several football clubs, including Esteghlal, also sent in their condolences to the family of the deceased football fan.

Iranian football legend Ali Karimi joined a chorus demanding the public to boycott all stadiums until the government allows women to enter.

Italian club AS Roma posted its logo in blue and yellow - changed from its traditional colours of yellow and red - on its Persian Twitter account in solidarity with Khodayari.

Meanwhile, Farhad Majidi, former Esteghlal stalwart-turned-head-coach of the Iran national under-23 team, published a picture of an empty Azadi stadium, writing, "Dear Sahar, Azadi's stands will forever yearn to see you".

FIFA slammed for complacency

Iranian women have been prohibited from entering stadiums since the early 1980s.

Despite years-long efforts, including an ultimatum that Iran would be banned from FIFA which expired in July, the world football governing body has failed to compel Iran to allow them in.

Currently, Iran only allows women to enter select national football games. This is despite the fact that last year President Hassan Rouhani promised Gianni Infantino, FIFA president, during a Tehran visit that women would soon be granted full entry into stadiums.

In their online reactions, angry and frustrated Iranians tagged and mentioned FIFA for continuously failing to open stadiums to Iranian women.

"Infantino has not applied FIFA human rights policy to stop these abuses. It was predictable decades of women protesting Iran's stadium ban could end in catastrophe," tweeted Minky Worden, director of global initiatives at the New York-based Human Rights Watch.

FIFA statutes address non-discrimination, equality and neutrality, stating that discrimination of any kind against, among other things, gender "is strictly prohibited and punishable by suspension or expulsion".

"We are aware of that tragedy and deeply regret it," a FIFA statement said.

"FIFA convey our condolences to the family and friends of Sahar and reiterate our calls on the Iranian authorities to ensure the freedom and safety of any women engaged in this legitimate fight to end the stadium ban for women in Iran," it added.

In a series of tweets, President Rouhani's deputy for women affairs Masoumeh Ebtekar described her efforts to follow up on Khodayari's case, saying the issue of allowing women to enter stadiums is being reviewed by the government and the judiciary.

But a deep distrust in the government and the ruling establishment means that many Iranians do not think that even the painful death of a young woman could shake the country's decision makers.

"Some officials say all the nice words when the going gets tough, but we've all seen worse and it hasn't always led to positive change," a 30-year-old football fan told Al Jazeera on condition of anonymity.



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...-denied-football-stadium-190910170109925.html

Iran should at the very least provide women's only sections in the football stadium. That being said, are Iranian men allowed to watch women's sports in the stadium?

 

[New World]

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Sahar Khodayari, arrested for trying to enter a football stadium, set herself on fire last week outside a courthouse.

An Iranian female football fan, who was detained for dressing as a man to sneak into a football stadium, has died a week after setting herself on fire.

Sahar Khodayari self-immolated in front of a court in Tehran last week after she found out she could face a two-year sentence for attempting to enter the Azadi Stadium to watch her team play.

Khodayari was rushed to a local hospital with severe burns on 90 percent of her body and damage to her lungs. She was confirmed dead on Monday night.

The 29-year-old was arrested in March while attempting to enter the iconic stadium named Azadi (Freedom in Farsi) to watch Esteghlal FC face UAE's Al Ain in an AFC Champions League match.

Since there are no written laws barring women from entering stadiums, she was sentenced for not fully adhering to Islamic hijab laws and covering her head.

Her family posted bail a day later but since the incident happened on the weekend, she had to spend three more days in jail.

Her family said the experience deteriorated Khodayari's mental health as she had a history of battling bipolar disorder and had attempted suicide before.

#BlueGirl

Khodayari was dubbed "blue girl" by Iranians on social media for the blue colour of her team's jersey.

Following the incident, thousands expressed outrage over a persisting stadium entry ban for women.

"One day, one of the capital city's largest stadiums will be called blue girl," journalist Mohammad Mosaed wrote on Twitter. "A day when even if we are not around, our grandchildren will remember what a difficult path we went through to achieve our most basic human rights."

Romina, a 32-year-old football fan who asked not to be fully identified, said Khodayari's case was an extreme one and she could empathise with what drove her to taking her life.

"This is extremely frustrating," she told Al Jazeera. "Maybe I would do the same, or at least think about doing it, if I loved something so much and I was told loving it would entail severe repercussions like going to jail that would impact the rest of my life".

An Iranian Twitter user wrote: "Why can a 9-year-old girl get married but a girl in her 20s can't go to the stadium?" in reference to a recent high-profile case involving a child marriage that was annulled after massive public backlash.

Several football clubs, including Esteghlal, also sent in their condolences to the family of the deceased football fan.

Iranian football legend Ali Karimi joined a chorus demanding the public to boycott all stadiums until the government allows women to enter.

Italian club AS Roma posted its logo in blue and yellow - changed from its traditional colours of yellow and red - on its Persian Twitter account in solidarity with Khodayari.

Meanwhile, Farhad Majidi, former Esteghlal stalwart-turned-head-coach of the Iran national under-23 team, published a picture of an empty Azadi stadium, writing, "Dear Sahar, Azadi's stands will forever yearn to see you".

FIFA slammed for complacency

Iranian women have been prohibited from entering stadiums since the early 1980s.

Despite years-long efforts, including an ultimatum that Iran would be banned from FIFA which expired in July, the world football governing body has failed to compel Iran to allow them in.

Currently, Iran only allows women to enter select national football games. This is despite the fact that last year President Hassan Rouhani promised Gianni Infantino, FIFA president, during a Tehran visit that women would soon be granted full entry into stadiums.

In their online reactions, angry and frustrated Iranians tagged and mentioned FIFA for continuously failing to open stadiums to Iranian women.

"Infantino has not applied FIFA human rights policy to stop these abuses. It was predictable decades of women protesting Iran's stadium ban could end in catastrophe," tweeted Minky Worden, director of global initiatives at the New York-based Human Rights Watch.

FIFA statutes address non-discrimination, equality and neutrality, stating that discrimination of any kind against, among other things, gender "is strictly prohibited and punishable by suspension or expulsion".

"We are aware of that tragedy and deeply regret it," a FIFA statement said.

"FIFA convey our condolences to the family and friends of Sahar and reiterate our calls on the Iranian authorities to ensure the freedom and safety of any women engaged in this legitimate fight to end the stadium ban for women in Iran," it added.

In a series of tweets, President Rouhani's deputy for women affairs Masoumeh Ebtekar described her efforts to follow up on Khodayari's case, saying the issue of allowing women to enter stadiums is being reviewed by the government and the judiciary.

But a deep distrust in the government and the ruling establishment means that many Iranians do not think that even the painful death of a young woman could shake the country's decision makers.

"Some officials say all the nice words when the going gets tough, but we've all seen worse and it hasn't always led to positive change," a 30-year-old football fan told Al Jazeera on condition of anonymity.



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...-denied-football-stadium-190910170109925.html

Say Welcome to the Persian Spring.

 

[mangekyo]

She wasn't mentally sick. And she was denied entry because she is a female... Yes, that's an actual law in Iran. Look it up.

Men aren’t allowed entry to women’s matches either, should I go set myself on fire ?

That being said, are Iranian men allowed to watch women's sports in the stadium?

No. Men can’t watch women’s games either. But it only becomes sexist when it’s about women

 

[24 Hours]

No. Men can’t watch women’s games either. But it only becomes sexist when it’s about women

Men's sports are certainly more popular among spectators than women's sports. That being said, I do believe both men and women should be allowed to watch the opposite sex play.

 

[mangekyo]

Men's sports are certainly more popular among spectators than women's sports. That being said, I do believe both men and women should be allowed to watch the opposite sex play.

Yes they should be allowed, but they are not, that’s just how it is. My point is, it’s not a sexist law and it’s not a discriminatory law like the western media portrays it.

 

[Lincoln]

Yes they should be allowed, but they are not, that’s just how it is. My point is, it’s not a sexist law and it’s not a discriminatory law like the western media portrays it.

But it's a sexist law. You're restricting based on gender. Also female matches aren't that famous or popular, so it isn't a fair comparison.