Blame game after Iran women pepper-sprayed at World Cup qualifier

[jamahir]

Yes and last time i checked only i decide what sports i do. I get sponsoring, a stipendium.

People can do and watch whatever they want. Its this kind of autocratic bla bla, to believe you can decide for others...that makes me sick

I will reply tomorrow. Am logging off now.

 

[sammuel]

their Jews community forbid them any normal social participation.

If they not like it they can leave the community. Their choice. It is a free country , people can live the way they want.

Very different from the situation where they are discriminated by state laws.(Though seems this difference is beyond your grasp.)

As was in your country that only recently got out of the stone age on this issues.

With ridiculous laws where the Criminal Code allowed a rapist the exemption to avoid all investigations or legal consequences if he married his victim.



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[sammuel]

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Human Rights Watch calls on FIFA to take action against Iran on women attendance​

Human Rights Watch has called on FIFA to consider sanctioning Iran after women were locked out of a stadium. FIFA has warned Tehran against a return to its policy of barring women spectators from attending games.

Human Rights Watch (HRW) on Wednesday slammed Iranian authorities over an incident in which hundreds of women spectators were locked out of a World Cup qualifying match.

"Iranian authorities have repeatedly demonstrated they are willing to go to great lengths to enforce their discriminatory and cruel ban on women attending football stadiums," a statement on HRW's website said. "Given Iranian authorities' longstanding violations, FIFA needs to follow its own global guidelines on nondiscrimination and should consider enforcing penalties for Iran’s noncompliance."

Earlier, FIFA expressed "concerns" over Monday's incident and said it had asked the Football Federation Islamic Republic of Iran (FFIRI) for more information surrounding the match that was played not in the capital Tehran, but in the religious city of Mashhad in the north of the country.

The FFIRI has expressed concerns about possible FIFA sanctions, including exclusion from this year's World Cup.

Blame game​

"We are hearing worrying news from FIFA and the AFC (Asian Football Confederation)," Mehrdad Seraji, an FFIRI board member, tweeted on Tuesday, the day after Iran, which had already qualified for Qatar, defeated Lebanon 2-0 on Monday.

He also denied that the FFIRI bore any responsibility for the incident, tweeting that should a ban be imposed, "then those involved in the bitter incident in Mashhad are responsible."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1509229961051348994

Human Rights Watch calls on FIFA to take action against Iran on women attendance | DW | 31.03.2022

Human Rights Watch has called on FIFA to consider sanctioning Iran after women were locked out of a stadium. FIFA has warned Tehran against a return to its policy of barring women spectators from attending games.

www.dw.com

Really? Well, that's wrong. And due to western / zionist apologists at that.

As a matter of fact, a leading refomist pseudo-intellectual like Tehran University professor Sadeq Zibakalam, who's best known for clownishly avoiding to step on zionist regime flags painted on the ground of the campus, and who tried to publish a book on the conflict in Palestine in which he basically rehashes zionist narratives, famously declared that it makes him happy when the Iranian national football team loses a match, because he, as a prototypical liberal globalist, is having issues with Iranian national sentiment, which he equates to "racism" (while zionist supremacism and apartheid, seem not to be much of a problem for the subject).

Indeed, Iranian apologists of the US and zionist regimes hateir the national football team. Which, incidentally, offers an insight into the astonishing levels of freedom of speech which prevail in the Islamic Republic of Iran (which many consider as too lenient, in fact).

Yet another self-defeating contradiction in the zionist propaganda campaign against Iran. Trying to spread anti-national mindset through their fifth columnists (who will claim that patriotism is racism), and simultaneously seeking to attack the Islamic Republic in the name of Iranian national pride (for its football team). Some pathetic cognitive dissonance that it, as usual.

"Throw everything at'em, something's gonna stick" no longer works, Iranians are waking up to the reality of the NATO-zionist existential enmity against the Iranian nation.



Hahaha, football hooligans have traditionally served as instruments for NATO and the zionist regime to help ignite conflicts and large scale war crimes, subvert, destabilize and destroy nations. Former Yugoslavia and so many other examples are there to illustrate it.

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Yes, we need to keep intact and promote moral decency in the public sphere. However, in this specific case, the regulation has rather been motivated by the fact that men at football stadiums often use extremely foul language (including sexual and family insults) when singing in support of their team (or against the opposing team). Those Iranians who shed tears about this ought to learn civility and manners first.

And all this explains why Iranian woman are banned from football , how exactly ?

Ahhh to protect woman from foul language. Seems they felt protected enough as 2000 bought tickets for the game.

If your man misbehave maybe you should exclude them , not the woman.

What a lame excuse.
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[_Nabil_]

If they not like it they can leave the community. Their choice. It is a free country , people can live the way they want.

Very different from the situation where they are discriminated by state laws.(Though seems this difference is beyond your grasp.)

As was in your country that only recently got out of the stone age on this issues.

With ridiculous laws where the Criminal Code allowed a rapist the exemption to avoid all investigations or legal consequences if he married his victim.



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Hahaha, they can leave, what a joke!!! Where to go ? With 0 education and 0 ability , where to go??? To prostitution probably ..... You really don't care about your co-religious jew sisters , what a shame ....

With your lame logic, the same can be said to Iranians womens banned from entry to the stadium, they can leave the country if they don't like the rules ....

 

[Hydration]

At least we do not kiss Israeli *** like Egypt or be a colony of the US. All your dictators are a yes-sir puppet of the Americans. You even betray your Palestinian brothers.

You destroy their case and kill their brothers and occupy lands and twist the words of the prophet to make a variation of islam to further divide the middle east for your and israels own good, your not the protagnist in this story, you are only but a virus using extremism and twisting religion as a weapon

 

[_Nabil_]

You destroy their case and kill their brothers and occupy lands and twist the words of the prophet to make a variation of islam to further divide the middle east for your and israels own good, your not the protagnist in this story, you are only but a virus using extremism and twisting religion as a weapon

An Egyptian living from aids and mendicity from USA and Khalijis, selling his Gaz to Israel cheaper than to Egyptians, will starve to death from lack of water in 10 years, and schooling Iran on its policies

 

[Hydration]

An Egyptian living from aids and mendicity from USA and Khalijis, selling his Gaz to Israel cheaper than to Egyptians, will starve to death from lack of water in 10 years, and schooling Iran on its policies

1.3bn is living off aid? If it really was such a big aid wouldnt sisi let morsi stay as The us threatned if morsi was taken off they would cut the aid and yet he completed it anyway? Maybe this aid might be big to you. We aqquire israels gas for decades to come althoigh we export our own to have leverage over them if they ever object egyptian intrests we can jist prevent their gas exports by cutting off our liquifying facillities and make them swim over gas they cant sell. You should really focus on your democracy and future 5th gen stealth jet
Atleast iam revealing my nationality and not hiding behind a tunisian flag

 

[SalarHaqq]

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And all this explains why Iranian woman are banned from football , how exactly ?

It was a response to another statement. And, it shows how zionists are hardly in a position to decry anything football-related when it comes to Iran.

Furthermore, Iranian women aren't "banned from football", there are female football teams in Iran.

Ahhh to protect woman from foul language. Seems they felt protected enough as 2000 bought tickets for the game.

Yes, to protect women from foul language. In Iranian culture, women are treated with a special kind of respect which no longer exists in the secularized west.

Using inappropriate language in the presence of women is extremely frowned upon, even more so than if it is done in the presence of men.

If your man misbehave maybe you should exclude them , not the woman.

I'd be all for banning men from stadiums (and even for banning these sorts of spectacles altogether, since their main achievement is to dumb people down).

However the clubs, the football federation and basically everyone else would have a huge problem with it, since it would lead to reducing stadium attendance by an estimated 80% to 90% - given that football is and remains a male interest for the most part, and this will be the case whether or nor women are allowed into stadiums. As a consequence, the economic viability of these competitions would be affected, and they might have to be cancelled altogether (which as said, I'd personally have no issues with).

What a lame excuse.
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It is the actual reason.

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An Egyptian living from aids and mendicity from USA and Khalijis, selling his Gaz to Israel cheaper than to Egyptians, will starve to death from lack of water in 10 years, and schooling Iran on its policies

Especially ironic for a person from Egypt to try and find fault with Iran as far as the treatment of women is concerned, isn't it. Violence against women is much, much more widespread and serious in Egypt than it is in Iran.

Even in the midst of so-called "Arab Spring" demonstrations, some 80 women were raped on a daily basis in Cairo... A mass phenomenon completely unheard of in Islamic Iran.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/05/egypt-women-rape-sexual-assault-tahrir-square

Mass sexual assault in Egypt - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Hydration]

Especially ironic for a person from Egypt to try and find fault with Iran as far as the treatment of women is concerned, isn't it. Violence against women is much, much more widespread and serious in Egypt than it is in Iran.

Even in the midst of so-called "Arab Spring" demonstrations, some 80 women were raped on a daily basis in Cairo... A mass phenomenon completely unheard of in Islamic Iran.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/05/egypt-women-rape-sexual-assault-tahrir-square

Mass sexual assault in Egypt - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Man are u that desprate to compare sexual harrasment in chaos vs everyday iran? ATleast we have legal means that prevent the harrasment and woman are allowed goverment places and parliment seats and allowed to vote unlike the iranian utopia for woman rights

 

[SalarHaqq]

Man are u that desprate to compare sexual harrasment in chaos vs everyday iran?

Compare with situations of turmoil - Iranian women don't get raped in demonstrations.

Generally speaking, the everyday situation of women in the two countries leaves little doubt as to where it is they enjoy better treatment.

ATleast we have legal means that prevent the harrasment

The results matter. By the way, in the Iranian criminal code rape is punished by death.

and woman are allowed goverment places and parliment seats and allowed to vote unlike the iranian utopia for woman rights

Some staggering disconnection from reality right there.

Female members of Majles (parliament) in the Islamic Republic of Iran:

https://www.borna.news/بخش-اجتماعی-4/642036-مجلس-نهم-رکورددار-ثبت-قوانین-ضد-حقوق-زنان-در-ایران-است-نمایندگان-زن-در-مجلس-دهم-فعالانه-عمل-می-کنند

As for voting rights, Iranian women were granted these in 1963. And have been participating in every election since the victory of the 1979 Islamic Revolution as well.

Iranian women casting their votes at various ballots including the presidential election:

I hope this will encourage you to question and independently verify from unbiased sources the rest of the disinformation you've been told about Iran.

 

[Hydration]

Compare with situations of turmoil - Iranian women don't get raped in demonstrations.

Generally speaking, the everyday situation of women in the two countries leaves little doubt as to where it is they enjoy better treatment.



The results matter. By the way, in the Iranian criminal code rape is punished by death.

Women have no legal protection against domestic violence or sexual harassment by anyone, and the constitution has no non-discrimination clause with gender as a protected category.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

What nonsense are you trying to peddle here ?

Some very few woman ( few dozens maybe , ) choose to join some extremists sect and wear silly black tents , i don't find it wise but it is there choice.

What has that got to do with the topic ?

So far the only two countries banning woman from football matches in the world ,are Afghanistan and Iran.

" House of glass " my a*s . Woman rights in Israel are more advanced than any Muslim or Arab country in the middle east.

Yours included. While Tunisia is better than other Arab countries they are still far behind.





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Organizations like Mossad hire young and "beautiful" women to sleep with men from foreign governments in order to collect intelligence. What kind of a government prostitutes their women in order to gather information yet her supporters preach about "having more rights than any Muslim or Arab country in the middle east"? Give me a break.

What the heck, their Rabbis are even condoning it.

Israeli Rabbi Blesses Honeytrap Sex For Female Spies

An Israeli rabbi has blessed the use of female spies in "honeytrap" or "honeypot" stings against terrorists, according to a study called "Illicit Sex for the Sake of National Security." The ruling by Rabbi Ari Schvat, contained in a study published by the Zomet Institute, was first reported by...

abcnews.go.com

 

[Tigers]

Iran must shed this archaic mentality

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Human Rights Watch calls on FIFA to take action against Iran on women attendance​

Human Rights Watch has called on FIFA to consider sanctioning Iran after women were locked out of a stadium. FIFA has warned Tehran against a return to its policy of barring women spectators from attending games.

Human Rights Watch (HRW) on Wednesday slammed Iranian authorities over an incident in which hundreds of women spectators were locked out of a World Cup qualifying match.

"Iranian authorities have repeatedly demonstrated they are willing to go to great lengths to enforce their discriminatory and cruel ban on women attending football stadiums," a statement on HRW's website said. "Given Iranian authorities' longstanding violations, FIFA needs to follow its own global guidelines on nondiscrimination and should consider enforcing penalties for Iran’s noncompliance."

Earlier, FIFA expressed "concerns" over Monday's incident and said it had asked the Football Federation Islamic Republic of Iran (FFIRI) for more information surrounding the match that was played not in the capital Tehran, but in the religious city of Mashhad in the north of the country.

The FFIRI has expressed concerns about possible FIFA sanctions, including exclusion from this year's World Cup.

Blame game​

"We are hearing worrying news from FIFA and the AFC (Asian Football Confederation)," Mehrdad Seraji, an FFIRI board member, tweeted on Tuesday, the day after Iran, which had already qualified for Qatar, defeated Lebanon 2-0 on Monday.

He also denied that the FFIRI bore any responsibility for the incident, tweeting that should a ban be imposed, "then those involved in the bitter incident in Mashhad are responsible."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1509229961051348994

Human Rights Watch calls on FIFA to take action against Iran on women attendance | DW | 31.03.2022

Human Rights Watch has called on FIFA to consider sanctioning Iran after women were locked out of a stadium. FIFA has warned Tehran against a return to its policy of barring women spectators from attending games.

www.dw.com

And all this explains why Iranian woman are banned from football , how exactly ?

Ahhh to protect woman from foul language. Seems they felt protected enough as 2000 bought tickets for the game.

If your man misbehave maybe you should exclude them , not the woman.

What a lame excuse.
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Human rights watch has called Israel an apartheid state. When that is brought up, Israelis give excuses.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Organizations like Mossad hire young and "beautiful" women to sleep men from foreign governments in order to collect intelligence. What kind of a government prostitutes their women in order to gather information yet her supporters preach about "having more rights than any Muslim or Arab country in the middle east"? Give me a break.

What the heck, their Rabbis are even condoning it.

Israeli Rabbi Blesses Honeytrap Sex For Female Spies

An Israeli rabbi has blessed the use of female spies in "honeytrap" or "honeypot" stings against terrorists, according to a study called "Illicit Sex for the Sake of National Security." The ruling by Rabbi Ari Schvat, contained in a study published by the Zomet Institute, was first reported by...

abcnews.go.com

kinda normal international Spy practices although rabbi blessing is definitely f-ed up even ISI honey traps Indians
although they are such Horney people its usually online chats, or made up pics and not sexual in nature (afaik but you never know what acutally happens)
anything for the country I guess

 

[lastofthepatriots]

People can wear what they like. No one forces woman in Israel what to wear or what not to wear.

If people choose to wear black that is their business - Are you able to understand the difference between choosing to wear something and being forced to wear something by the government ?



Back to topic :

Will FIFA take action against Iran as a result of this incident ?​

FIFA, the world's football governing body, issued a warning to Iran in 2019 for refusing to allow women the access to sporting venues. FIFA had warned Iran that it would be banned from all international tournaments including the World Cups if it did not allow women to enter sporting arenas.

The directive was issued after an Iranian woman named Sahar Khodayari died by suicide following an incident in which she attempted to enter a stadium while disguised as a man to attend a football match of her favourite domestic club. She was caught and was facing a six-month prison sentence.

Following the unfortunate incident, FIFA sought assurances from Iran that women will be allowed to attend matches during the 2022 World Cup qualifier games, scheduled to be contested in the country. Iran had guaranteed FIFA that women would be permitted to watch the games. On Tuesday, however, the opposite occurred, and women were once again denied access to a match. The Iranian Football Team could face a penalty or outright ban as a result of this incident

Will FIFA ban Iran from World Cup for denying entry of women into stadium during playoffs?

On Tuesday, around 2,000 Iranian women with tickets to a World Cup qualifying match between Iran and Lebanon were denied entry to a football stadium.

www.republicworld.com

The death of

Death of Sahar Khodayari​

Sahar Khodayari (Persian: سحر خدایاری; Persian pronunciation: [sæhær xodɒjɒriː]; c. 1990 – 9 September 2019),[2] also known as Blue Girl[a] was an Iranian fan of Esteghlal F.C. In March 2019, she attempted to enter Azadi Stadium disguised as a man to watch a match played by the team, against the national ban on women at such events. On 2 September the same year, she was told by the Islamic Revolutionary Court of Tehran that she may face a six-month prison sentence. After leaving court, she committed suicide by self-immolation in front of the building.[3][4] She died a week later of her injuries. Khodayari's self-immolation has generated much debate in Iran about the government's restrictions on women

Death of Sahar Khodayari - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Over a football match?

Sahar was probably mentally ill.