Blackwater's Pakistan mission (and related news)
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Agreed..... Although I heard they don't get Visas, they just bypass the system and get in on special flights.
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That looks like a common typical Job Application form for any company. Whats all the fuss about, i filled up a job application for a bank a couple of months ago where there was an option of selecting various languages which included, Hindi, Punjabi, Urdu, Mandarin etc as well, does that mean that the bank wants to infiltrate our regions, seriously stop making a mountain out of a mouse hole. Every Intelligence, defense or military job application wants to know how many and what type of languages you speak, its very common and even the Canadian Intelligence has this option as well.
With that being said we all know how Pakistan is cynical towards the Americans and rightfully so, after all more than 60% of the nation believes American to be a bigger threat than any other country in the world so the idea of Blackwater coming to Pakistan to do God knows what is obviously not going to hold well with Pakistani's.
Nonetheless all the articles that i have read have been sketchy with yellow journalism and have failed to logically prove anything. Regardless of the source of the rumours, the suspicion the US is building a secret army with or without Blackwater help riled US embassy staff into flat denials. Ambassador Anne Patterson accused one of Shireen Mazari’s columns to be “wildly incorrect” and said without doubt Blackwater was not operating in Pakistan. Moreover, after the upcoming expansion of the US embassy there would be between 15 and 20 Marine guards, not 1,000.
It muddies the waters that Xe themselves would not respond to a request for comment from the Times. The News, meanwhile, has abandoned all obvious journalistic ethics by failing to cite the source of any of its assertions. How a “a lady anchorwoman” doubles as a informant on the movement of US troops beats me.
I myself am in no place to say whether the company is building bombs, running milk rounds or selling ice cream in Pakistan. You can understand why, with a history of US-backed military coups, why conspiracy theories have such a high currency. But that doesn’t mean the media itself should present such gossip, without fact checking, as news. What does the Jang Group think it will gain by spreading mis-information? And how are Pakistani’s meant to make decisions like who is to run their country, when the media are no better informed than the average taxi-driver?
With that being said we all know how Pakistan is cynical towards the Americans and rightfully so, after all more than 60% of the nation believes American to be a bigger threat than any other country in the world so the idea of Blackwater coming to Pakistan to do God knows what is obviously not going to hold well with Pakistani's.
Nonetheless all the articles that i have read have been sketchy with yellow journalism and have failed to logically prove anything. Regardless of the source of the rumours, the suspicion the US is building a secret army with or without Blackwater help riled US embassy staff into flat denials. Ambassador Anne Patterson accused one of Shireen Mazari’s columns to be “wildly incorrect” and said without doubt Blackwater was not operating in Pakistan. Moreover, after the upcoming expansion of the US embassy there would be between 15 and 20 Marine guards, not 1,000.
It muddies the waters that Xe themselves would not respond to a request for comment from the Times. The News, meanwhile, has abandoned all obvious journalistic ethics by failing to cite the source of any of its assertions. How a “a lady anchorwoman” doubles as a informant on the movement of US troops beats me.
I myself am in no place to say whether the company is building bombs, running milk rounds or selling ice cream in Pakistan. You can understand why, with a history of US-backed military coups, why conspiracy theories have such a high currency. But that doesn’t mean the media itself should present such gossip, without fact checking, as news. What does the Jang Group think it will gain by spreading mis-information? And how are Pakistani’s meant to make decisions like who is to run their country, when the media are no better informed than the average taxi-driver?
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according to Peshawari "dinner table politics" --- Pearl Continental was actually hit by one of the intelligence agencies, because the people in the lobby restaurant were NOT aid workers, but they were blackwater employees who were off duty.
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i hope we kick deport all these mercineries business out of Pakistan before they create a bigger mess for us.
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i feel sorry for the ones who are living in Peshawar allegedly.
One wrong move, and they will get their faces stomped on by the locals. It's a huge angry debate in Peshawar.
One wrong move, and they will get their faces stomped on by the locals. It's a huge angry debate in Peshawar.
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And the evidence they worked for blackwater, that they were rude americans that wore dark glasses and carried weapons. How many of you wear dark glasses, how many of you yell at people in Peshwar traffic, how many of you carry weapons as part of your work OMG your all from black water. Perhaps time for a little rationality rather than rumor and paranoia?
Most of the foreigners caught in the blast were working with aid agencies helping internally displaced persons.[13] An official of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees from Serbia, Aleksandar Vorkapić, was among those killed;[14][15] a Filipino employee of UNICEF also died.[16] Three UN employees from Germany, Somalia, and the UK were wounded.[17]
A serb, a filipino, a german, a somali and an pom that were working to aid the people of pakistan and a lot of other innocent people were killed by a nutcase who belives he has the right to comit mass murder because he doesnt like americans.
You dont like blackwater, fine you think Prince is an *** fine so do I. If you think some one is doing something illegal you report it to the police. You dont kill innocent people. The last "blackwater" people arrested were actually Cia working with the ISI.
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The most controversial private security company in history emerges in mainstream media yet again - this time with broader implications to its cultural impact, Jody Ray Bennett writes for ISN Security Watch.
By Jody Ray Bennett for ISN Security Watch
Early last month, Blackwater Worldwide, the ever infamous private military and security company, was thrust into the commercial media spotlight yet again after its founder was accused of murder[ing] or facilitat[ing] the murder of individuals who were cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company.
After weeks of avoiding any sort of meaningful scrutiny, the company again emerged upon revelation in a piece by the New York Times that in 2004, the CIA hired the company to locate and assassinate top operatives of Al Qaeda in a program that had been concealed from congressional oversight.
It was one of the first known times that US national security was purposefully outsourced to a private company to partake and engage in specialized and covert operations that were once exclusively performed by the government.
A former top Blackwater executive told ISN Security Watch that what was reported was not correct. He re-emphasized the articles mention that It is unclear whether the C.I.A. had planned to use the contractors to actually capture or kill Qaeda operatives, or just to help with training and surveillance in the program.
Everyone was led to believe there was some force of [Blackwater] guys trained in assassination, the former Blackwater employee told ISN Security Watch. It just wasn't an accurate story, and it was way blown out of proportion.
However, days after this story broke, the New York Times reported that the ubiquitous media stories covering US drone attacks in Pakistan were in part carried out by Blackwater, which had since changed its name to Xe and was sometimes under contract as US Training Center.
According to the report, The division's operations are carried out at hidden bases in Pakistan and Afghanistan, where the company's contractors assemble and load Hellfire missiles and 500-pound laser-guided bombs on remotely piloted Predator aircraft, work previously performed by employees of the Central Intelligence Agency [while also providing] security at the covert bases.
The interviewee could not clear the record with ISN Security Watch as the programs remain classified and investigations are still ongoing.
Self-fulfilling prophecy?
The company is still under investigation by various parties and seems to constantly be in court for something.
That the company emerges every so often in the news cycle has caused some journalists to compare it to a game of Whack-A-Mole in that it keeps popping up, while others have pondered if Blackwater is too big to fail.
Blackwater represents the fusion of American neo-realist foreign policy and neo-liberal theories, which maintain that anything can be bought and sold on a private market, including military functions that used to be exclusively owned by the nation-state.
The privatization of military affairs and national security cannot be discussed without mention of Blackwater, which has managed to force itself into the narrative of US-Iraq and US-Afghan relations and beyond. But more than this, the sheer idea of Blackwater has become a politically cultural archetype, which, despite its massive material power and political relationships, has manifested itself in a sort of stereotype, not only to its own detriment but to the detriment of the very industry in which it operates.
One might hesitate to suggest that a discussion of Blackwater (and what Blackwater means for global politics) should be limited to those in military, security, business or even academic circles, but indeed, the company has shaped itself into an epithet that evokes a dubious awe, perplexing fascination and outright suspicion.
For these reasons, the company has managed to be caricatured in several Hollywood films and television shows, it has been the subject of a hard rock song, earned a mention on a late night entertainment program in the US and has been compared to the characters, companies, missions and plots in a litany of video games and other fictional works. In fact, the SWAT series for the Playstation gaming system includes actual footage of Blackwaters training facilities and commentary from Blackwater-employed SWAT instructors.
A former executive with the company even mentioned to ISN Security Watch that Blackwater once had to send a legal letter to a Chinese toy company that was manufacturing GI Joe-knockoff action figures that bore the Blackwater logo without permission.
When asked about Blackwaters cultural relevance, the executive told ISN Security Watch that at the time, we didnt think anyone in that world knew about us or even cared.
But the company has clearly created an unintentional cultural impact. During the interview, the former Blackwater official likened the companys brand to that of Kleenex or Fed-Ex in the sense that the word Blackwater became a ubiquitous reference that spanned the entire security industry.
[Its] just like whether you use UPS or DHL, [but say] you fedex soemthing, the official told ISN Security Watch.
Critical security
To what degree have these cultural nuances altered or reinforced how scholars, journalists, soldiers and security personnel perceive the idea of security, let alone collective notions of how security can or should be allocated and what implications or consequences arise as a result of assumptions?
To some extent, these questions are addressed in the many security blogs that can be found online, but few succeed in explaining or critiquing phenomenon in the security world outside of strictly positivist and empirical frameworks.
That songs and movie plots and action figures and video games develop in reaction or response to companies like Blackwater says more about the people who produce and consume these products and less about the worlds most powerful mercenary army.
This is not to say that the industry should not be subject to strict scrutiny, but without scrutiny or question of the cultural virtues that seem to develop, the emergence and existence of companies like Blackwater could not be understood outside of the near unanimous, functional explanation of military downsizing in the post-Cold War era.
As news coverage will undoubtedly rise and fall with Blackwater as a subject, might the aforementioned scholars, journalists, soldiers, security personnel and activists entertain for a moment that the idea of Blackwater may be nothing more than the material reflection of the political, economic and social culture from which it was formed?
Blackwater Forever / ISN
By Jody Ray Bennett for ISN Security Watch
Early last month, Blackwater Worldwide, the ever infamous private military and security company, was thrust into the commercial media spotlight yet again after its founder was accused of murder[ing] or facilitat[ing] the murder of individuals who were cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company.
After weeks of avoiding any sort of meaningful scrutiny, the company again emerged upon revelation in a piece by the New York Times that in 2004, the CIA hired the company to locate and assassinate top operatives of Al Qaeda in a program that had been concealed from congressional oversight.
It was one of the first known times that US national security was purposefully outsourced to a private company to partake and engage in specialized and covert operations that were once exclusively performed by the government.
A former top Blackwater executive told ISN Security Watch that what was reported was not correct. He re-emphasized the articles mention that It is unclear whether the C.I.A. had planned to use the contractors to actually capture or kill Qaeda operatives, or just to help with training and surveillance in the program.
Everyone was led to believe there was some force of [Blackwater] guys trained in assassination, the former Blackwater employee told ISN Security Watch. It just wasn't an accurate story, and it was way blown out of proportion.
However, days after this story broke, the New York Times reported that the ubiquitous media stories covering US drone attacks in Pakistan were in part carried out by Blackwater, which had since changed its name to Xe and was sometimes under contract as US Training Center.
According to the report, The division's operations are carried out at hidden bases in Pakistan and Afghanistan, where the company's contractors assemble and load Hellfire missiles and 500-pound laser-guided bombs on remotely piloted Predator aircraft, work previously performed by employees of the Central Intelligence Agency [while also providing] security at the covert bases.
The interviewee could not clear the record with ISN Security Watch as the programs remain classified and investigations are still ongoing.
Self-fulfilling prophecy?
The company is still under investigation by various parties and seems to constantly be in court for something.
That the company emerges every so often in the news cycle has caused some journalists to compare it to a game of Whack-A-Mole in that it keeps popping up, while others have pondered if Blackwater is too big to fail.
Blackwater represents the fusion of American neo-realist foreign policy and neo-liberal theories, which maintain that anything can be bought and sold on a private market, including military functions that used to be exclusively owned by the nation-state.
The privatization of military affairs and national security cannot be discussed without mention of Blackwater, which has managed to force itself into the narrative of US-Iraq and US-Afghan relations and beyond. But more than this, the sheer idea of Blackwater has become a politically cultural archetype, which, despite its massive material power and political relationships, has manifested itself in a sort of stereotype, not only to its own detriment but to the detriment of the very industry in which it operates.
One might hesitate to suggest that a discussion of Blackwater (and what Blackwater means for global politics) should be limited to those in military, security, business or even academic circles, but indeed, the company has shaped itself into an epithet that evokes a dubious awe, perplexing fascination and outright suspicion.
For these reasons, the company has managed to be caricatured in several Hollywood films and television shows, it has been the subject of a hard rock song, earned a mention on a late night entertainment program in the US and has been compared to the characters, companies, missions and plots in a litany of video games and other fictional works. In fact, the SWAT series for the Playstation gaming system includes actual footage of Blackwaters training facilities and commentary from Blackwater-employed SWAT instructors.
A former executive with the company even mentioned to ISN Security Watch that Blackwater once had to send a legal letter to a Chinese toy company that was manufacturing GI Joe-knockoff action figures that bore the Blackwater logo without permission.
When asked about Blackwaters cultural relevance, the executive told ISN Security Watch that at the time, we didnt think anyone in that world knew about us or even cared.
But the company has clearly created an unintentional cultural impact. During the interview, the former Blackwater official likened the companys brand to that of Kleenex or Fed-Ex in the sense that the word Blackwater became a ubiquitous reference that spanned the entire security industry.
[Its] just like whether you use UPS or DHL, [but say] you fedex soemthing, the official told ISN Security Watch.
Critical security
To what degree have these cultural nuances altered or reinforced how scholars, journalists, soldiers and security personnel perceive the idea of security, let alone collective notions of how security can or should be allocated and what implications or consequences arise as a result of assumptions?
To some extent, these questions are addressed in the many security blogs that can be found online, but few succeed in explaining or critiquing phenomenon in the security world outside of strictly positivist and empirical frameworks.
That songs and movie plots and action figures and video games develop in reaction or response to companies like Blackwater says more about the people who produce and consume these products and less about the worlds most powerful mercenary army.
This is not to say that the industry should not be subject to strict scrutiny, but without scrutiny or question of the cultural virtues that seem to develop, the emergence and existence of companies like Blackwater could not be understood outside of the near unanimous, functional explanation of military downsizing in the post-Cold War era.
As news coverage will undoubtedly rise and fall with Blackwater as a subject, might the aforementioned scholars, journalists, soldiers, security personnel and activists entertain for a moment that the idea of Blackwater may be nothing more than the material reflection of the political, economic and social culture from which it was formed?
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I daresay this BlackWater will return from where it come from once ISI will heat this dirty Water to its boiling point!!
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Hi,
I just read the topic and without opening the thread, I knew it would be Mirza Aslam Beg---there is no other idiot like him on the planet.
Before the first gulf war---he had warned the americans that the iraqis would be a formidable army and may beat the americans---after seeing the air assault---he changed his statement---now that I saw what the americans can do---iraqi army is dead meat.
That guy Aslam Beg is the biggest ever embarrassment that the pak army has ever produced---how could he become the C in C?
I just read the topic and without opening the thread, I knew it would be Mirza Aslam Beg---there is no other idiot like him on the planet.
Before the first gulf war---he had warned the americans that the iraqis would be a formidable army and may beat the americans---after seeing the air assault---he changed his statement---now that I saw what the americans can do---iraqi army is dead meat.
That guy Aslam Beg is the biggest ever embarrassment that the pak army has ever produced---how could he become the C in C?
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good news thanks yar thanks a lot i am waiting for this type of action .......
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