BJP warns govt. over Kashmir

[lem34]

premenstraul period is hitting you already ? I know it hard man, but good luck !

The Indians and pakistanis are one family. we have a problem and issue with Kashmir. India and Pakistan know it and will sort it in out. Dont need interlopers who have enough of their own problems with ulterior motives to come and make silly comments or advise us.

 

[ARSENAL6]

^ well good luck

 

[Jade]

There is absolutely no traction in Indian for any kind of solution other than converting the LoC to an IB (open,close,loose, tight...whatever). AB Vajpayee would have been more willing to compromise in 1999 as would Manmohan Singh in 2004-05. However in 2011, the situation is just not the same. Not withstanding last summers protests, India is in the strongest position it has ever been and the position of Pakistan, relatively speaking has never been weaker ( atleast since 1991). What would be the idea to conjure up something that might rock the boat? After 26/11, there is absolutely no appetite for any close relationship to be forged with Pakistan. Talks/no talks, India's position won't change much. If a solution can be found on terms similar to what would be acceptable to the Indian population, there is no harm exploring that. Anything else would be suicide!

Yes I agree with you that India has lost the appetite for forging close ties with Pakistan post 26/11; however, I feel that solving Kashmir as soon as possible will help India in long run. Converting LOC to IB with greater autonomy to Kashmir Valley and a guarantee to Pakistan on uninterrupted waters is a good solution. It is time India detach itself from Pakistan; Kashmir is binding us.

 

[KS]

Forget about Pakistan being in a strong position to demand it. Aren't Kashmiris as humans entitled to that basic right ? Let's for once stop looking at the Kashmir issue from an India-Pakistan standpoint and see it from a Kashmir standpoint.

If that is the case the world would have some 2000 nations instead of the present 200.

Welcome to Reality.

There is absolutely no traction in Indian for any kind of solution other than converting the LoC to an IB (open,close,loose, tight...whatever). AB Vajpayee would have been more willing to compromise in 1999 as would Manmohan Singh in 2004-05. However in 2011, the situation is just not the same. Not withstanding last summers protests, India is in the strongest position it has ever been and the position of Pakistan, relatively speaking has never been weaker ( atleast since 1991). What would be the idea to conjure up something that might rock the boat? After 26/11, there is absolutely no appetite for any close relationship to be forged with Pakistan. Talks/no talks, India's position won't change much. If a solution can be found on terms similar to what would be acceptable to the Indian population, there is no harm exploring that. Anything else would be suicide!

Agreed with that. I'm saying the BJP is only reminding the Congress, you would have to commit suicide if you compromise on Kashmir.

Though I would like to add if BJP demands that P0K be taken back to India then I dont agree not because I dont like it, but because it is practically infeasible.

 

[Bang Galore]

to win an election in india one needs 51% of the votes so u mean that bjp should keep shut till next elections ,do u mean that we 49% should keep shut and be under congress attrocoties until congress goes out of power..Im sorry if such is the mentality of congress then the days are not far when non congress populations(states districts ) will seek freedom from congress ruled states..In short congress is talking this nation in to hell..Their most recent ventures are a just glimpses..The communal bill(against majorities), lokpall version etcetc gives us hints wat lies in future..

On a personal note i think there should be a lie detector test for All the politicians who so ever from wat ever party is in power..wat say congressies agree for it??

Did you refer to me as a congressie (whatever that means)? I owe my loyalty only to India, not to any party! My stand on any issue is based purely on the merits (as I see it) of the subject in question. I don't give my support to a party & then think up an excuse for them. I prefer to go with who I feel is right.

Btw, your comments about democracy are silly. That is exactly how it works. The 51% ( actually just the party in power, since 51% is not necessary) are the only ones who are constitutionally authorised to govern, the 49% will have to wait for the next election. The rest of your comments are just foolish banter since even non congress states would not have given 100% of the votes for their respective governments. What next? Partition & divorce in families because they vote different?

 

[tallboy123]

The Indians and pakistanis are one family. we have a problem and issue with Kashmir. India and Pakistan know it and will sort it in out. Dont need interlopers who have enough of their own problems with ulterior motives to come and make silly comments or advise us.

Hehehe one family??in dreams???

Any one Pakistani or Indian goes near the border...u ll only get Bullet..
And the same applies inside each others country...

Pakistan different..India different..It is a well know fact that we r Rivals...Don't try to change it...

 

[Zabaniyah]

Hehehe one family??in dreams???

Any one Pakistani or Indian goes near the border...u ll only get Bullet..
And the same applies inside each others country...

Pakistan different..India different..It is a well know fact that we r Rivals...Don't try to change it...

If animals and plants get along in a forest, why can't neighbors?

Just a thought

 

[sab]

I think the pending plebiscite is still possible if both parties show some flexibility. Opinion of the Kashmiries is more important than that of fanboys from both sides. There should be separate election in - Kashmir valley, Ladakh, Jammu and Northern areas. How the problems of Hindu communities ousted from the valley will be solved is an important question. We expect some flexibility from both sides for the peace in the region. Because, stubbornness will only keep Kashmir as a white elephant for both parties .

 

[alphamale]

I think the pending plebiscite is still possible if both parties show some flexibility. Opinion of the Kashmiries is more important than that of fanboys from both sides. There should be separate election in - Kashmir valley, Ladakh, Jammu and Northern areas. How the problems of Hindu communities ousted from the valley will be solved is an important question. We expect some flexibility from both sides for the peace in the region. Because, stubbornness will only keep Kashmir as a white elephant for both parties .

plebiscite, no way. it will act like a chain reaction & u as a indian surely don't want that. so forget abt any plebiscite

 

[lem34]

Hehehe one family??in dreams???

Any one Pakistani or Indian goes near the border...u ll only get Bullet..
And the same applies inside each others country...

And so what? Its our problem we will need to sort it and will. You forgotton about Mahabharat

 

[ganesh177]

Forget about Pakistan being in a strong position to demand it. Aren't Kashmiris as humans entitled to that basic right ? Let's for once stop looking at the Kashmir issue from an India-Pakistan standpoint and see it from a Kashmir standpoint.

Its the same kashmiris who crushed the human values and chased kashmiri pandits out of kashmir tieing up with the terrorists accross the border. Killed the pandits in there home, captured there home, shops businesses, demolished there worship places. Chased the rest of them out of kashmir and made them live the life of refugee. Ask the pandits how do they feel to live like this anywhere in india.

Kashmiris have lost there right to cry about human rights after what they have done to there own fellow kashmiri pandits.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Its the same kashmiris who crushed the human values and chased kashmiri pandits out of kashmir tieing up with the terrorists accross the border. Killed the pandits in there home, captured there home, shops businesses, demolished there worship places. Chased the rest of them out of kashmir and made them live the life of refugee. Ask the pandits how do they feel to live like this anywhere in india.

Kashmiris have lost there right to cry about human rights after what they have done to there own fellow kashmiri pandits.

So, what solution would you propose?

 

[American Pakistani]

I am soo sad that Pakistan's position regarding Kashmir is becomming weak & defensive & i'am afraid India will swallow Pakistani territory same like Junagadh-Manavadar & Hyderabad Deccan. It is because of 2 reasons that Pakistan stand is becomming weak, one is polititions are more interested for friendship with India,(i'am not against friendship with India but core issues shan't be put behind or sell out due to friendship, today they are occupying J&K, tomorrow they will demand for AJK, than G&B & so on).
The second reason & very big reason is obviously terrorism in Pakistan, because of terrorism Pakistan focus had been distracted from that important issue, another loss because of terrorism is that many of the Kashmiris are being made fool by Indian media who shows each & every news with mirch masala and therefore now many of them want Indepandance from India but not a merger with Pakistan, one more loss due to terrorism is that our economy is in very bad condition, alot of foriegn companies have been closed plus very little or no further foriegn investment coming.

Kashmir is a jugular vein of Pakistan, Pakistan will always be threaten until Kashmir is occupied, either Kashmir becomes indepandant sovereign country otherwise it must become part of Pakistan, Pakistani leaders must agree on nothing less than this & not become defensive on this main issue.

 

[fd24]

Hehehe one family??in dreams???

Any one Pakistani or Indian goes near the border...u ll only get Bullet..
And the same applies inside each others country...

Pakistan different..India different..It is a well know fact that we r Rivals...Don't try to change it...

Tallboy 123

Its sad to see people with views and opinions like yourself that more families from both side of the border will cry tears of blood at the loss of loved ones.
Its time for change.....Stop the historical hatred and twisted ideologies. We can resolve with the people power. Change your way of thinking and lets get on with each others differences and we can start concentrating on humanitarian needs

 

[Masterchief]

If animals and plants get along in a forest, why can't neighbors?

Just a thought

that my friend is the best reply i've ever heard. : )