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BJP MP demands renaming of Aurangzeb Road to Dr APJ Abdul Kalam Road

again, simple question... how is it democratic when it does not have voluntary consent of all??
Nice try. Come again with better argument.

what if all muslims in india supported aimim??

If wishes were horses. If all muslims support AIMIM, then good luck, they will have a noticeable voice in the parliament.

funny it is not saffron.
Here goes your myth of all BJP leaders are hindutvadi.

OT, i like the idea of naming roads on eminent people who have worked for the progress of the country. Dr Kalam was people's man and naming a road on him is a mark of respect towards him.
 
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again, simple question... how is it democratic when it does not have voluntary consent of all??



what if all muslims in india supported aimim??



funny it is not saffron.

So 100% Libyans wanted Gaddafi? If you cant prove it, then I am sorry to say your Gaddafi was worse than Indian democracy where atleast opposing voices are tolerated (like yours)/
 
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If wishes were horses. If all muslims support AIMIM, then good luck, they will have a noticeable voice in the parliament.

it isn't particularly my wish... it was just a reciprocal point to tridibans.

Here goes your myth of all BJP leaders are hindutvadi.

oh, i think he realized that saffron on white looks ugly.

OT, i like the idea of naming roads on eminent people who have worked for the progress of the country. Dr Kalam was people's man and naming a road on him is a mark of respect towards him.

fine then... how about renaming "malviya nagar" in delhi to "tipu enclave" with the necessary beautification done??

will be a start.
 
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It's in fact a very valid and good demand, the road should be renamed to Dr APJ Abdul Kalam Rd.
 
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So 100% Libyans wanted Gaddafi? If you cant prove it, then I am sorry to say your Gaddafi was worse than Indian democracy where atleast opposing voices are tolerated (like yours)/

different situation.

1. libyan jamahiriya was a socialist country with a generally enlightened and politically-aware people... and yes, there were those who didn't like the system but they were constantly being engaged by debate.

2. because of it being a direct-democracy, opinions were made after debates right down to neighborhood level, somewhat like what "aam aadmi party" wishes to achieve in india.

3. in 2011, after months of war, despite massive massive nato propaganda against gaddafi, despite fear of nato airstrikes and terrorist ground attacks, this happened ( One Third of Libya Turns Out to Support Qaddafi in World's Largest March Ever - Intifada Palestine ).
 
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again, simple question... how is it democratic when it does not have voluntary consent of all??

What is your idea of democracy? that elected person must get 100% vote?
To be technically correct, India is not a democracy. No country in the world is. We are "representative democracy" which is not ideal but much more practical. Even this type of govt system is far more just and ideal than any other form of govt.
 
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What is your idea of democracy? that elected person must get 100% vote?
To be technically correct, India is not a democracy. No country in the world is. We are "representative democracy" which is not ideal but much more practical. Even this type of govt system is far more just and ideal than any other form of govt.

person ruling a country should be having 100 whores protecting him if not 100% votes. This is his idea of democracy.
 
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What is your idea of democracy? that elected person must get 100% vote?
To be technically correct, India is not a democracy. No country in the world is. We are "representative democracy" which is not ideal but much more practical. Even this type of govt system is far more just and ideal than any other form of govt.

rather than use the term "100% vote", better is the term "general consent after enlightened debate at all levels".

this would come from the political system being a direct-democracy, with especially the "enlightened" part coming from the people being politically aware/educated which happens under socialism.

you are correct about india being a "representative democracy" which therefore is no democracy really, for the decisions taken at government level don't have the consent of you and me.

instead, with direct-democracy, ideas and decisions arrived-at at neighborhood level, at city level, at regional level decide the policies at country level... this was what existed in libya for 40 years until 2011 and this is what "aam aadmi party" wishes to achieve in india through its "swaraj" idea, though they are undecided on capitalism vs socialism as the economic policy.

person ruling a country should be having 100 whores protecting him if not 100% votes. This is his idea of democracy.

and this ( Gaddafi’s Female Bodyguards Found Murdered, Chinese Reactions | LIBYA AGAINST SUPER POWER MEDIA ) is what nato's "freedom fighters" and "rebels" brought to those "whores".

by the way, how do you know about my stand?? did you guess from my user-name and profile-picture??
 
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rather than use the term "100% vote", better is the term "general consent after enlightened debate at all levels".

this would come from the political system being a direct-democracy, with especially the "enlightened" part coming from the people being politically aware/educated which happens under socialism.

you are correct about india being a "representative democracy" which therefore is no democracy really, for the decisions taken at government level don't have the consent of you and me.

instead, with direct-democracy, ideas and decisions arrived-at at neighborhood level, at city level, at regional level decide the policies at country level... this was what existed in libya for 40 years until 2011 and this is what "aam aadmi party" wishes to achieve in india through its "swaraj" idea, though they are undecided on capitalism vs socialism as the economic policy.
So what constitutes a "general consent"? What do you mean be "all levels"? Who defines "levels"? on what basis? And what is going to happen when there is no "general consensus at all levels"? Mine is a family of 6 and never ever had any kind of "general consensus" on anything whatsoever. Never. Try doing it for 1.2 billion people. Never go full retard... even for democracy...
 
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Mine is a family of 6 and never ever had any kind of "general consensus" on anything whatsoever. Never.

from ( The Green Book - I )...
The instrument of government is the prime political problem confronting human communities (The problem of the instrument of government entails questions of the following kind. What form should the exercise of authority assume? How ought societies to organize themselves politically in the modern world?)

Even conflict within the family is often the result of the failure to resolve this problem of authority. It has clearly become more serious with the emergence of modern societies.

So what constitutes a "general consent"?

results of debate among the masses guided by socialism and/or progressive intellectuals... the debate to be democratic and open to all, irrespective of economic class ( in a non-socialist system ) or age differences.

What do you mean be "all levels"?

local community level ( neighborhood ) --> city level --> country level.

Who defines "levels"? on what basis?

** copy-paste from another thread **

the idea is to get every citizen to participate in the political running of society and have the whole system as decentralized semi-independent communes.

each neighborhood in a city calls its residents to a ground or hall and elects a secretariat... this is done with each resident participating and voicing opinion... the secretariat will then be responsible for maintainence of the neighborhood ( security, lighting etc ), for getting and discussing local needs with the city administration, for discussing local and societal issues with local residents and delivering opinions and decisions of local residents to city administration or higher... the local residents confer in a truly democratic manner, with disregard for age, gender, profession or other attributes... this gathering at neighborhood-level becomes called "basic people's congress".

if a city has ten neighborhoods, there will then be ten "basic people's congress" ( bpc ) gatherings with their own secretariats.

the secretariats of each bpc will gather to discuss local and city issues at city level... each secretariat will be delivering the opinions of their bpc's and the needs of their bpc's and how city resources can be allocated to each bpc in a clean manner... and to help make discussions smoother and to help get resources from higher level and to deliver the city's opinions to higher level, the gathered bpc secretariats will elect a secretariat for the city, and this secretariat can be from among them or from some neighborhood or any other person who is deemed suitable... the city-level gathering will become called "municipal people's congress" ( mpc ).

for easier administration of a larger society, some cities can be gathered together into a region and the city secretariats will gather in "regional people's congress" ( rpc )... this can avoided for a small-population society.

either the mpc or the rpc, the relevant secretariats gather at societal level in the "general people's congress" which takes decisions at societal level and to discuss world issues and how to participate in them... to help smoother discussions, the gather secretariats at this top level elect a "general secretariat"... the gathering becomes called "general people's congress" ( gpc )

in all this, each citizen's novel opinions are delivered from the bpc through a chain until it reaches the gpc, each decision by a bpc is delivered until it reaches the gpc... this makes each citizen of the society a politician and a decision maker and opiner... direct-democracy.

done within the guidance of socialism, this will yield and simplest and almost-perfect society... this entire system is called "jamahiriya" and if all societies human-wide are so changed, it will lead to "world jamahiriya"... this plus some more scientific changes will lead to true communism... a vision worth changing one's life for and working towards it.

i suggest you put a diagram for the bpc, mpc, rpc, gpc to understand them more easily.

for more ( The Green Book - I ).

"aam aadmi party" has a similar but smaller-scale idea in form of "swaraj".

And what is going to happen when there is no "general consensus at all levels"?

how??

in the above system, there is not vote system of just "yes" or "no" and there are no "political parties"... a person saying "yes" or "no" to a idea or decision or problem must state his reason.
 
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i gave him a upgrade posthumously.. besides he did prophesize things..

you do know that as muslims, i and he believed that prophet muhammad was the last prophet... i am not talking of supernatural things here but political.

predicting political events will not get anyone now to prophet status.
 
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