BJP Leader racist (Thug) get owned by an Indian lady

[Joe Shearer]

This is questionable.

On twitter, BJP rats living in India are mostly abusing Arabs and Muslims.

What do you mean, this is questionable? If you are referring to the greater number supporting, defending or justifying him, it is a fact that the BJP through its IT Cell has a far better presence on the 'Net compared to those of us who oppose it. How does that equate to our indignation and opposition being questionable?

 

[Suriya]

Your focus should have been on the filthy remarks made, not on what liberty and freedom of speech those opposing such filthy remarks enjoy.

You want everybody should become @Joe Shearer.
That is a fascist streak Joe.

You have every right to condemn his remark while i can talk about freedom of speech available in Hindu majority India that gives people right to express negative opinion.
Pakistan mein yeh nahi hi to mere baat pertinent ban tahe.

 

[Joe Shearer]

You want everybody should become @Joe Shearer.
That is a fascist streak Joe.

You have every right to condemn his remark while i can talk about freedom of speech available in Hindu majority India that gives people right to express negative opinion.
Pakistan mein yeh nahi hi to mere baat pertinent ban tahe.

You have a point. I cannot demand that you emulate my behaviour. I can, however, hope that you will go beyond your right to express your opinion in your own way, and that you will add to your defence of the freedom of speech available in secular India a stout condemnation of the bad behaviour that we are discussing.

It is a wish; you will surely not object to it. If I was religious, I would pray that the hate you seem to bear 'others' be replaced by a tolerance for all.

You want everybody should become @Joe Shearer.
That is a fascist streak Joe.

You have every right to condemn his remark while i can talk about freedom of speech available in Hindu majority India that gives people right to express negative opinion.
Pakistan mein yeh nahi hi to mere baat pertinent ban tahe.

How I wish you would not defend the indefensible. Look at this unmentionable:

https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...campaign=campaign_name&utm_content=&utm_term=

You want everybody should become @Joe Shearer.
That is a fascist streak Joe.

You have every right to condemn his remark while i can talk about freedom of speech available in Hindu majority India that gives people right to express negative opinion.
Pakistan mein yeh nahi hi to mere baat pertinent ban tahe.

I still cannot understand. Granted you may express yourself in whatever way you want. What do you find objectionable in what I say and hold? Is it not right?

 

[jamahir]

That's Hindu majority India for you. Democracy and free speech.

people don't have to exile from India to save their lives for making anti-govt or anti-ruling party comment.

In 2016 the then Leftist student leader and now Communist Party politician, Kanhaiya Kumar, went to jail for some days on sedition charges for calling for freedom from Capitalism, Brahminical oppression and Hindutva. Before and after jail he was threatened and physically attacked. From Wikipedia :

When Kumar was brought to the Patiala House court on 15 February 2016, JNU students and professors, as well as journalists, were attacked by a group of lawyers. BJP MLA O.P. Sharma was also involved in the assault, although he later denied the charge. On 17 February, Kumar was once again assaulted by some lawyers inside the Patiala House court. On 22 February 2016, India Today broadcast a video in which three lawyers of the Patiala House court claimed that they had beaten Kanhaiya Kumar while the latter was in police custody. A six-member Supreme Court-appointed panel later confirmed that the policemen present at the Court were responsible for the security lapses, and further stating that police allowed 2 persons to enter the court room, and continued to let the assault take place, in direct violation of the SC direction on Kanhaiya's safety.

Following his release from jail, Kumar has faced bounties and death threats. Kuldeep Varshnay, a leader of the youth wing of BJP was expelled from the organisation for offering Rs 5 lakh as a reward to anyone who cut off Kumar's tongue. Posters were put up in New Delhi offering Rs 11 lakh as a reward to anyone who shoots Kumar.

On 10 March 2016, Kumar was manhandled and abused on the JNU campus by a man who accused him of being a "deshdrohi" (traitor). The man was later identified as Vikas Chaudhary of Gaziabad, who stated that he wanted to "teach Kanhaiya a lesson".

On 15 March 2016, four people tried to attack Kumar in separate instances. The attacks occurred during a march in New Delhi of JNU students and staff led by Kumar, demanding the release of the students who had been arrested and charged with sedition. Three individuals shouted abuses at Kumar during his speech near the Parliament Street police station before being taken away by the police, while another managed to climb the truck over which Kumar was standing while addressing the gathering. The fourth man was also taken away by the police before he could reach Kumar. The four men were released from custody later in the evening

And there was also this incident also in 2016 :

New Delhi: An attempt was made to strangle Kanhaiya Kumar on a Jet Airways flight from Mumbai to Pune on Sunday. This is the latest in a series of threats and attempted assaults on the JNU students’ union president.

Kumar was sitting in a middle seat, his friend Nishant who was travelling with him told The Wire. The incident occurred before the plane took off. “The man in the window seat was talking on the phone, we heard him say things like ‘I will take care of it as soon as I get a chance'” he said. “Then he suddenly got up, while still on the phone, and put one hand around Kanhaiya’s throat and started pressing. When Kanhaiya tried to remove the hand, the man dropped his phone and grabbed Kanhaiya’s throat with both hands. By then, those of us travelling with Kanhaiya realised what was happening and managed to pull him off. Then security came, along with the Jet Airways pilot, and insisted that all of us get off the plane as we were ‘security threats’.”

The accused was detained by the police at Mumbai airport. “He [the attacker] was travelling with several others, but the others were not asked to deplane,” Nishant added. The alleged attacker has apparently been identified as Manas Jyoti Deka, who works for Tata Consultancy Services.

How nice !! Kanhaiya was deplaned even though he was victim. Also, the attacker was a middle-class typical Indian IT or management guy. Of the sort who are not very intelligent. Drones.

So what is your opinion about this ??

 

[Suriya]

How I wish you would not defend the indefensible. Look at this unmentionable:

https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...campaign=campaign_name&utm_content=&utm_term=

He has given his reasons. Tableeghi Jamaat horrific behavior, attacks of medical staff people in 'single cause' localities, CCTv videos of people rubbing spits on grills and doorknobs aren't fake news.

I would talk about a bigger issue.

In our country there is this powerful lobby of intellectuals especially in the media world that suppresses anything slightly negative about muslim.... ' baat mat karo bat mat karo ... kuch nahi hua he... because country's secularism would come under a cloud.

And in reaction to this you see communal tirade of
' ye mallue sab darinde hain... love Jihadi hain...'

The incessant debate of secularism and communalism must end. Every action, every individual, every incident should be judged without getting into extraneous reasons. But since we have unbridled Muslim appeasement we have seen in all these years , you will also see hyper communal reactions as defense mechanism from Hindu side.

I still cannot understand. Granted you may express yourself in whatever way you want. What do you find objectionable in what I say and hold? Is it not right?

No, you are disarming one side while giving the other side ' khula maidan'. Unacceptable terms .

In 2016 the then Leftist student leader and now Communist Party politician, Kanhaiya Kumar,
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Kanhaiya Kumar is a rascal.

He has been accused for flashing at a girl in JNU and even reprimanded n fined for it by univ authority.

He says India army commits rape in Kashmir. Another wild and very irresponsible allegation from youth leader.
About his sedition case, that's in the court. Let's see what evidence police has managed to collect.

 

[Joe Shearer]

He has given his reasons. Tableeghi Jamaat horrific behavior, attacks of medical staff people in 'single cause' localities, CCTv videos of people rubbing spits on grills and doorknobs aren't fake news.

Let us talk about this.

Horrific behaviour in terms of not submitting to testing, treatment and isolation? That is horrific behaviour? You would have us overlook the laxity of the police force and that spineless animal, Kejriwal?

As for your claims of people rubbing spit on grills and doorknobs, are you taking leave of your senses? Do you seriously believe that an entire community, or even some unbalanced individuals within a community, would do things like this?

I would talk about a bigger issue.

Why is it that every time you are confronted by some horrifying behaviour of some Sanghi, you promptly divert the conversation to a bigger issue? Is it that you feel that nobody understands your inability and your unwillingness to face the truly animal behaviour of these individuals?

In our country there is this powerful lobby of intellectuals especially in the media world that suppresses anything slightly negative about muslim.... ' baat mat karo bat mat karo ... kuch nahi hua he... because country's secularism would come under a cloud.

And in reaction to this you see communal tirade of
' ye mallue sab darinde hain... love Jihadi hain...'

So it is equal and opposite and therefore cancelled out?

The incessant debate of secularism and communalism must end. Every action, every individual, every incident should be judged without getting into extraneous reasons. But since we have unbridled Muslim appeasement we have seen in all these years , you will also see hyper communal reactions as defense mechanism from Hindu side.

Could we start with you?

Could you, without dodging the issue, accept that these actions that we are discussing are horrible, and disgraces humanity?

No, you are disarming one side while giving the other side ' khula maidan'. Unacceptable terms .

What does that even mean?

Kanhaiya Kumar is a rascal.

He has been accused for flashing at a girl in JNU and even reprimanded n fined for it by univ authority.

The same authority that allowed violent incidents to take place on campus? The authority that was paradropped from a completely different location with a mandate to suppress dissent on the JNU campus? The authority that allowed in the police only after tolerating weeks of the police permitting outsiders to come in and assault their own students? The authority that had nothing to say to the students and their leaders who were wounded by savage assaults?

Is that the best you can do?

He says India army commits rape in Kashmir. Another wild and very irresponsible allegation from youth leader.

Are you saying that this has never occurred?

About his sedition case, that's in the court. Let's see what evidence police has managed to collect.

Of course. The very same police that did all that they did at JNU. You do rely on them a lot, don't you?

Tell me, in the dead of the night, do you never feel utterly cynical?

 

[jamahir]

Kanhaiya Kumar is a rascal.

He has been accused for flashing at a girl in JNU and even reprimanded n fined for it by univ authority.

That is a lie. That incident was about him supposedly urinating against a wall of the university and a girl student reprimanding him and complaining to the university authorities. And this incident was from years ago which was deviously brought to focus in 2016 by Kanhaiya's right-wing rival, ABVP

He says India army commits rape in Kashmir. Another wild and very irresponsible allegation from youth leader.

I don''t want to get into Kashmir now. I will be making a thread in a few days about my solution for Kashmir. But I will ask you to read this article on the Kunan-Poshpora rape and torture incident from 1991. The reality is slightly more complex.

About his sedition case, that's in the court. Let's see what evidence police has managed to collect.

I don't know. Some of the judiciary too is biased. From the same Wikipedia page take this female judge for instance from 2016 :

Justice Pratibha Rani noted that there were no recordings of Kumar participating in anti-national slogans. Going beyond the immediate issue, the judge also held that the alleged slogans threaten national integrity and cannot be considered as free speech. She characterized them as a form of "infection," which can either be treated or, in some cases, "amputation is the only treatment

 

[Joe Shearer]

That is a lie. That incident was about him supposedly urinating against a wall of the university and a girl student reprimanding him and complaining to the university authorities. And this incident was from years ago which was deviously brought to focus in 2016 by Kanhaiya's right-wing rival, ABVP



I don''t want to get into Kashmir now. I will be making a thread in a few days about my solution for Kashmir. But I will ask you to read this article on the Kunan-Poshpora rape and torture incident from 1991. The reality is slightly more complex.



I don't know. Some of the judiciary too is biased. From the same Wikipedia page take this female judge for instance from 2016 :

It is amazing how many unproven allegations have been made against one individual. What chance does a hated community have?

 

[ChennaiDude]

When does Modi plan on appealing again to the UN for return of Azad Kashmir ?

Why appeal to the UN- Its a Bilateral issue- No

 

[ChennaiDude]

You have every right to condemn his remark while i can talk about freedom of speech available in Hindu majority India that gives people right to express negative opinion.
Pakistan mein yeh nahi hi to mere baat pertinent ban tahe.

Sorry to butt in- You have freedom of speech-Not freedom of hate speech- there is a difference.

 

[Suriya]

Sorry to butt in- You have freedom of speech-Not freedom of hate speech- there is a difference.

Yes, for hate speech. But is that a hate speech @Tejasvi_Surya made?

It's not even his own words. He was quoting Tarek Fateh. Its on FGM in the Gulf region. And since it involves Muslims our sickulars getting panties in a twist.

 

[Secular]

BJP=RSS=Extremists