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Bin Laden death - A TRILLION DOLLAR MYSTERY
(Hunt For A Dead Man)


By: Engr. Jamshaid Akhtar Minhas

The cost of wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan are estimated at 225,000 lives and up to $4 trillion, including medical care and disability for current and future war veterans, in U.S. spending, in a new report by scholars with the Eisenhower Research Project at Brown University’s Watson Institute for International Studies. The group’s “Costs of War” project has released new figures for a range of human and economic costs associated with the U.S. military response to 9/11 attacks. If the wars continue, they are on track to require at least another $450 billion in Pentagon spending by 2020.

After four suicide attacks in U.S. on September 11, 2001 American officials accused Usama bin Laden, founder of Al-Qaeda, for the attacks. He was born on March 10, 1957 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden was raised as a devout Wahhabi Muslim. From 1968 to 1976, he attended the élite secular Al-Thager Model School. He studied economics and business administration at King Abdul-Aziz University. Some reports suggest he earned a degree in civil engineering in 1979, or a degree in public administration in 1981.

Mystery begins with Afghan Jihad when holy war against the "evil empire", was issued by US President Ronald Reagan on March 8, 1985. The "evil empire" was the Soviet Union, as well as Third World movements fighting US-backed colonialism, apartheid and dictatorship. According to Ahmed Rashid, a correspondent for the Far Eastern Economic Review, in 1986 CIA Chief William Casey committed CIA support to a long-standing ISI proposal to recruit from around the world to join the Afghan jihad. At least 100,000 Islamic militants flocked to Pakistan between 1982 and 1992 (some 60,000 attended fundamentalist schools in Pakistan without necessarily taking part in the fighting).

John Cooley, a former journalist with the US ABC television network and author of Unholy Wars: Afghanistan, America and International Terrorism, has revealed that Muslims recruited in the US for the mujahidin were sent to Camp Peary, the CIA's spy training camp in Virginia, where young Afghans, Arabs from Egypt and Jordan, and even some African-American "black Muslims" were taught "sabotage skills".

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The November 1, 1998, British Independent reported that one of those charged with the 1998 bombings of US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Ali Mohammed, had trained "Bin Laden's operatives" in 1989. These "operatives" were recruited at the al Kifah Refugee Centre in Brooklyn, New York, given paramilitary training in the New York area and then sent to Afghanistan with US assistance to join Hekmatyar's forces. Ali Mohammed was a member of the US army's elite Green Berets.

The program, reported the Independent, was part of a Washington-approved plan called "Operation Cyclone". The Independent also suggested that Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, an Egyptian religious leader also jailed for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Centre, was also part of Operation Cyclone. He entered the US in 1990 with the CIA's approval. A confidential CIA report concluded that the agency was "partly culpable" for the 1993 World Trade Centre blast, the Independent reported.

Osama bin Laden arrived in Afghanistan to join the jihad in 1980 as a recruit. He was becoming more and more popular among his fellows and in 1986; bin Laden brought heavy construction equipment from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan. Using his extensive knowledge of construction techniques he built "training camps", some dug deep into the sides of mountains, and built roads to reach them. These camps, now dubbed "terrorist universities" by Washington, were built in collaboration with the ISI and the CIA. Usama’s thrust for power made him cruel, and with the passage of time well renowned asset of CIA hijacked the Afghan Jihad, opponents were either killed or hustled out of Afghanistan and Usama became a new and powerful leader of the resistance in Afghanistan.

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Tom Carew, a former British SAS soldier who secretly fought for the mujahidin told the August 13, 2000, British Observer, "The Americans were keen to teach the Afghans the techniques of urban terrorism — car bombing and so on — so that they could strike at the Russians in major towns ... Many of them are now using their knowledge and expertise to wage war on everything they hate."
No American newspaper dares suggest that the prisoners in Camp X-Ray are the product of this policy, nor that it was one of the factors that led to the attacks of September 11. After 9/11 attacks Bin Laden the "freedom fighter" is now declared as a "terrorist mastermind" and an "evil-doer" by US leaders and the Western mass media.


(Charlie Wilson, a Democrat, in Afghanistan)

Conspiracies about Usama’s assassination are as old as American war in Afghanistan. Usama became a serious threat for American future plans when after the attacks he denied his role and involvement in the attacks; indeed he blamed Zionists for the attacks in his video message. U.S. forces put the Al-Qaeda leader on the spot in Tora Bora heights in December 2001.

Battle for Tora Bora took place in Afghanistan from December 12, 2001 to December 17, 2001. Tora Bora is a cave complex situated 50km west of the Khyber Pass and 10 km north of the border of Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) in Pakistan. Tora Bora and the surrounding White Mountain range had natural caverns formed by streams eating into the limestone. It was suspected and believed to be the location of the bin Laden’s headquarters, variously described as a multi-storied complex and contain a large cache of ammunition, such as Stinger missiles. These outposts were originally built by extending and shoring up natural caves, with the assistance of the CIA in the early 1980s (Operation Cyclone) for use by mujahidin during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, but several may date back to much earlier periods, as the difficult terrain has been used by tribal warriors fighting foreign invaders since ancestral times.

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US officials said that besides the tremendous bombing in Tora Bora Usama managed to escape into Pakistan. The U.S Special Forces Agent said “We were on the edge of Afghanistan so failure was not an option”. The Agent saw him on his scope and confirmed his presence 5 minutes before the bombing start, and it was a confirmed hit. Later on the officials said we did not found a positive match of Usama’s DNA. Now the question arises that how an old man suffering from kidney disease managed to escape, while U.S Jets are firing and dropping bombs on everything which moves, until unless he know how to fly but in the presence of Jets it’s also not an option.

Charles Ferndale in his article believes, “The airplanes that drop the larger versions must remain at least 6000 metres away from the blast, lest they be damaged by the blast. Before December 2001, Tora Bora was an area rich in wildlife. It was, for example, home to huge flocks of the beautiful partridge, the chukor, native to that region. After December 2001, nothing could be found alive there; not even beetles and lizards. So either Osama bin Laden was not in those caves and tunnels in December 2001, or, if he was, then he was killed then and there.”

According to Robert Baer, an ex-member of the CIA, at least half of the US intelligence community concerned with this issue believes Osama was killed during the bombing at Tora Bora.

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After Tora Bora bombing no video message was received from the Al-Qaeda chief, only suspicious audio tapes and some ambiguous videos were released in which Usama was looking younger than what he was in 2001. So it can be concluded that,”Usama bin Laden died in Tora Bora attacks”.

In September 2006, before the midterm elections in United States, A French newspaper published a leaked intelligence document. The regional newspaper l’Est Republicain on Saturday printed what it described as a copy of a confidential document from the DGSE intelligence service citing an uncorroborated report from Saudi secret services that the leader of the al-Qaida terror network had died of typhoid in Pakistan last month. An energetic debate “Is Usama bin Laden Dead or Alive” started over throughout the World. The Democratic Party won a majority of the state governorships and the U.S. House and Senate seats each for the first time since 1994, an election-year commonly known as the "Republican Revolution." For the first time in the history of the United States, no Republican captured any House, Senate, or Gubernatorial seat previously held by a Democrat.

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"Geronimo-E KIA, Usama bin Laden shot dead by the US special forces at a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan” was a headline of all the newspapers around the globe on 2nd May 2011, a year before Presidential Elections in U.S.A. In Abbottabad, a senior U.S. defense official said the actual operation took place at 3:30 p.m. ET, 00:30 a.m. PST.

According to The New York Times, a total of "79 commandos and a dog" were involved in the raid. The SEALs flew into Pakistan from a staging base in the city of Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan after originating at Bagram Air Base in northeastern Afghanistan. The 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (SOAR), a US Army Special Operations Command unit known as the "Night Stalkers", provided the two modified Black Hawk helicopters that were used for the raid itself, as well as the much larger Chinook heavy-lift helicopters that were employed as backups. The Black Hawks appear to have been never-before-publicly-seen "stealth" versions of the helicopter that fly more quietly while being harder to detect on radar according to the U.S. officials. The helicopters used hilly terrain and nap-of-the-earth techniques to reach the compound without appearing on radar and alerting the Pakistani military. The flight from Jalalabad to Abbottabad took about 90 minutes. The time between the team's entry in and exit from the compound was 38 minutes. According to the Associated Press, the military offensive aspect of the raid was completed in the first 15 minutes.

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One of the helicopters that had made the emergency landing was damaged and unable to fly was destroyed to safeguard its equipment. Since the SEAL team now had only one helicopter, one of the two Chinooks held in reserve was dispatched to carry part of the team and bin Laden's body out of Pakistan. The helicopters returned to Bagram Airfield and the body of Osama bin Laden was then flown from Bagram to the aircraft carrier Carl Vinson in a V-22 Osprey. According to U.S. officials, bin Laden was buried at sea, Preparations began at 10:10 a.m. local time and at-sea burial was completed at 11 a.m.

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I will only discuss technical facts of the Abbottabad raid. Let’s analyze how two Black Hawks and one Chinook successfully breached hundreds of kilometers inside Pakistani space without being detected by the radars? What are the real perspectives of the raid? Following is the timeline of Abbottabad operation.

May 1
10:30 p.m. U.S Marines flew from Jalalabad Airfield.
11:22 p.m. Seal Team 6 entered Pakistani Airspace.

May 2
00:17 a.m. First Black Hawk made emergency landing in the compound.
00:20 a.m. Second Black Hawk landed safely.
1:03 a.m. Abandoned Helicopter destroyed by the Navy Seals to safeguard classified equipment.
1:08 a.m. Chinook with dead body of Usama bin Laden took flight from his compound in Abbottabad.
3:00 a.m. Last Helicopter reached Bagram Airbase.
10:30 a.m. Usama bin Laden was buried at sea.

Straight line distance between Jalalabad Airfield and Usama’s compound in Abbottabad is 254 Km, Staight line distance from Usama’s compound to Bagram Airfield is 376 km. There are approximately seven Pakistan Air force bases surrounding the path between Afghan border and Abbottabad. Airfields are located at Peshawar, Risalpur, Kamra, Chaklala, Haripur, Muzaffrabad and Saidu Sharif Swat. The nearest Airbase is located 31 Km away in Muzaffrabad. Nearest strategic point is located 53 Km SW of the compound at Tarbela. S.S.G Ghazi Airbase is just 15 Km away from the strategic point and 62 Km from the compound of Bin Laden.

There are many strategic points in Abbottabad and surrounding areas, within kilometers of the compound of bin Laden are PMA KAKUL, Baloch Regiment Centre and Attock Regiment Centre, Some sources also claim that kamra Airbase is an undisclosed Nuclear weapons storage facility. Abbottabad, at 1220 meters (4000 feet) is named after James Abbott, a British Administrator, who served in Hazara Division, part of North West Frontier Province of present Pakistan, in the 1840’s and 50’s. It is known as the military town, full of soldiers exercising, parading, playing polo and practicing the bagpipes. Because of these reasons area is covered by intensive network of Radars, SAMs and Anti-Aircraft guns thus it is nearly impossible to reach this area without being detected by the radars.

American authorities claim that they used terrain hugging maneuvers and stealth Black Hawks to breach Pakistani air defenses. Is it possible to carry an operation of 40 minutes in the heart of Pakistan Army without notifying the authorities? The only possible route of Seal team 6 is shown in the figure. Suppose Black Hawks equipped with stealth technology slipped through air defenses, but how an ordinary Chinook with bigger size deceived the radars, I wonder how nap-of-the-earth techniques worked when most of the air defenses were located on highest places in the area and no. 13 squadron Saab 2000 AEW&C at Kamra was scanning the area from above. The aircraft's Erieye radar has a range of 450 km and is also capable of identifying the type of aircraft and the weapons it is carrying so it can detect any aircraft deep within Afghanistan. Why this Chinook was not detected by the radars when it landed at bin Laden compound for backup, why it was not detected when it was carrying Usama’s dead body back to Afghanistan.

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It only takes 17 minutes for S.S.G Commandos to respond and reach Usama’s compound from Ghazi Airbase while Baloch and Attock regiment could respond within few minutes. The first news broke at 1:32 a.m. on Pakistani media that says “A blast was heard in Sikanderabad supply area a few minutes ago, low flights of helicopters are detected and according to initial details a helicopter crashed near PMA KAKUL, security forces circled the area”. Now question arises that if people can hear helicopters flying low, media was broadcasting that low flights were detected why Pakistan Air force failed to respond on time, they knew it was not their helo because it was not detected by the radar. Former Air Marshal Rao Qammar Suleman said in front of Abbottabad commission that PAF F-16 were scrambled at Sargodha base but by the time they reached Afghan border Americans left Pakistani territory.
But here is the reality, Black hawk maximum speed is 295 Km/h and cruise speed is 278 Km/h while Chinook’s maximum speed is 315 Km/h and cruise speed is 240 Km/h. It means both helicopters need at least 1 hour at full speed to exit Pakistan. No. 16 and No. 26 of JF-17 Thunder squadrons at Minhas and Peshawar Bases could catch U.S marines in less than 4 minutes, on the other side F-16 from Sargodha Airbase can reach Afghan border near Jalalabad in 9 minutes. At 1:32 a.m. Seal Team 6 was still inside Pakistani air space. As we always do let’s assume they successfully escaped from Pakistan and reached Bagram around 3:00 am, within next 15 minutes V-22 Osprey carrying Usama’s dead body took flight from Bagram and heading towards USS Carl Vinson somewhere in the Arabian sea. The only possible route of V-22 is 4000 Km long if Vinson was in Arabian Gulf and 6000 Km if Vinson was in North Arabian Sea. Maximum speed of V-22 is 509 km/h which means it has to fly for minimum 8 hours to reach Carl Vinson in Arabian Gulf and 12 hours if it was in North Arabian Sea. From the fact we can conclude that Usama’s dead body was not arrived at Vinson before 11:00 a.m. then how the news broke at 10:30 a.m. that Usama was buried at sea?

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Between May 1986 and November 1988, PAF F-16s have shot down at least eight intruders from Afghanistan. The first three of these (one Su-22, one probable Su-22, and one An-26) were shot down by two pilots from No. 9 Squadron. Pilots of No. 14 Squadron destroyed the remaining five intruders (two Su-22s, two MiG-23s, and one Su-25). Flight Lieutenant Khalid Mahmoud is credited with three of these kills. One F-16 was lost in these battles during an encounter between two F-16s and four Soviet Air Force MiG 23s on 29 April 1987. The pilot, Flight Lieutenant Shahid Sikandar Khan, ejected safely. If PAF had such a tremendous record during 80’s against a Superpower, why it failed on May 1st, 2011?

For almost 10 years America mislead the World in Iraq and Afghanistan, and now Obama is giving his Nation a reason to evacuate from Afghan Death Trap. How many people around the globe would believe Abbottabad raid without alerting Pakistan Army if the wreck was not found at the compound? So it was planted. Thus the assassination of a dead man in Abbottabad operation was a contrived hoax. If any of you still think that U.S forces fooled Pakistani air defenses during Abbottabad raid and killed Usama bin Laden, than definitely you are either fool or being fooled by your Government.



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Not again.

All those who took part very well know what happend. there is NO mystry
 
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"To watch the courageous Afghan freedom fighters battle modern arsenals with simple hand-held weapons is an inspiration to those who love freedom."

— U.S. President Ronald Reagan, March 21, 1983


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U.S. President Reagan supportively meeting with Afghan Mujahideen at the White House, to highlight Soviet atrocities in Afghanistan. 1985

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George Crile III with Charlie Wilson in Afghanistan.

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Charlie Wilson (2nd left), D-T, dressing in Afghan clothing (armed with AK-47) with the local Afghan mujahideen.

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Afghan guerrillas that were chosen to receive medical treatment in the United States, Norton Air Force Base, California, 1986.

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A column of Soviet BTR armored personnel carriers departing from Afghanistan.

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Afghans commemorating Mujahideen Victory Day.

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An Old Friend of CIA
 
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great puppet for his master, live in paper record,die in paper record,full fill his master destiny and then shows over,
 
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I just want to add that at the time of raid there was a crash of SSG Helicopter in the same vicinity, killing a Lt Col and all his team. Were they assisting or trying to intervene and who shot them down?
 
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IMO OBL was just a trophy and sadly Americans got that trophy and our establishment badly humiliated and lost bargaining chip the imp one, please don't go in conspiracy theories accept what world is saying.
 
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IMO OBL was just a trophy and sadly Americans got that trophy and our establishment badly humiliated and lost bargaining chip the imp one, please don't go in conspiracy theories accept what world is saying.

Theres always Zawahiri. Want him badly as well. OBL is an inspiration to many jihadists where Zawahiri is more of the brains to Al Qaeda.
 
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Bin Laden death - A TRILLION DOLLAR MYSTERY
(Hunt For A Dead Man)


By: Engr. Jamshaid Akhtar Minhas

It only takes 17 minutes for S.S.G Commandos to respond and reach Usama’s compound from Ghazi Airbase while Baloch and Attock regiment could respond within few minutes. The first news broke at 1:32 a.m. on Pakistani media that says “A blast was heard in Sikanderabad supply area a few minutes ago, low flights of helicopters are detected and according to initial details a helicopter crashed near PMA KAKUL, security forces circled the area”. Now question arises that if people can hear helicopters flying low, media was broadcasting that low flights were detected why Pakistan Air force failed to respond on time, they knew it was not their helo because it was not detected by the radar. Former Air Marshal Rao Qammar Suleman said in front of Abbottabad commission that PAF F-16 were scrambled at Sargodha base but by the time they reached Afghan border Americans left Pakistani territory.
But here is the reality, Black hawk maximum speed is 295 Km/h and cruise speed is 278 Km/h while Chinook’s maximum speed is 315 Km/h and cruise speed is 240 Km/h. It means both helicopters need at least 1 hour at full speed to exit Pakistan. No. 16 and No. 26 of JF-17 Thunder squadrons at Minhas and Peshawar Bases could catch U.S marines in less than 4 minutes, on the other side F-16 from Sargodha Airbase can reach Afghan border near Jalalabad in 9 minutes. At 1:32 a.m. Seal Team 6 was still inside Pakistani air space. As we always do let’s assume they successfully escaped from Pakistan and reached Bagram around 3:00 am, within next 15 minutes V-22 Osprey carrying Usama’s dead body took flight from Bagram and heading towards USS Carl Vinson somewhere in the Arabian sea. The only possible route of V-22 is 4000 Km long if Vinson was in Arabian Gulf and 6000 Km if Vinson was in North Arabian Sea. Maximum speed of V-22 is 509 km/h which means it has to fly for minimum 8 hours to reach Carl Vinson in Arabian Gulf and 12 hours if it was in North Arabian Sea. From the fact we can conclude that Usama’s dead body was not arrived at Vinson before 11:00 a.m. then how the news broke at 10:30 a.m. that Usama was buried at sea?

The answer of your concern is simple, Ab pachtana kia jab Chiriyan chug gye khait. They got him before we react our forces are not that invincible as we portrait them.
 
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If Bin Laden was trained and funded by the US, why are the Pakistanis here taking any credit at all for the Russian A-ghan war? The US did it all.
 
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why you bothered posting
no ones gonna believe this
we all know the true story
some just dont want to accept the facts
 
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If Bin Laden was trained and funded by the US, why are the Pakistanis here taking any credit at all for the Russian A-ghan war? The US did it all.
it was not US alone we have equal part in this
the whole jihad was started by us
 
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CRAP!!! Osama bin Laden is in Guantanamo Bay! Joe Biden Visits him Every month!
 
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Heard they play checkers....Biden may yet offer him a seat on the Supreme court.
 
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Heard they play checkers....Biden may yet offer him a seat on the Supreme court.

Looks like Osama won the checkers and demanded a seat after Biden Lost to him.
 
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