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WASHINGTON: The foreign minister has voiced disappointment over the Taliban’s ban on university education for women but said the best approach remained engagement with Afghanistan’s Islamist rulers.
“I’m disappointed by the decision that was taken today,” Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari said on a visit to Washington.
But, he said: “I still think the easiest path to our goal — despite having a lot of setbacks when it comes to women’s education and other things — is through Kabul and through the interim government.”
Zardari said there were no alternatives to the Taliban, warning of further instability in Afghanistan or the rise of the Islamic State militant group.
“Is the alternative for us to imagine that we can somehow artificially stitch together an alternate opposition that can command the same sort of legitimacy?”
The Taliban, who had initially promised a softer approach than during their 1996-2001 regime, on Tuesday banned university education for women after already closing down secondary schooling for girls.
The United States, whose troop withdrawal from Afghanistan last year precipitated the collapse of the Western-backed government, warned that the Taliban decision could permanently end any hopes by the militants for a positive relationship.
But Zardari said it was even more crucial to ensure economic support “to create the political space necessary for those within the Afghan regime who actually believe that they should deliver” on rights issues.
Pakistan has a complicated relationship with the Taliban, officially backing the two-decade US war in Afghanistan but facing wide accusations in Washington of supporting the militants.

But but but Imran Khan is Taliban Khan lmao.
Man the sheeple that the Army has created are funny as fack.
 
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But but but Imran Khan is Taliban Khan lmao.
Man the sheeple that the Army has created are funny as fack.
How two statements are similar?
Pls explain.
 
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But but but Imran Khan is Taliban Khan lmao.
Man the sheeple that the Army has created are funny as fack.
Engaging with the allies in the Taliban(not all Taliban in Afghanistan are friendly) is different with engaging with TTP. IK(and his camp within the establishment) wanted to even get TTP to start engaging in politics.
 
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But but but Imran Khan is Taliban Khan lmao.
Man the sheeple that the Army has created are funny as fack.
Engaging with Taliban IS the way forward.
What happened has happened. Only another civil war in Afghanistan can dislodge Taliban from power now. That doesn’t seem like it will happen too soon. Better to accept reality and try working with Taliban. We have many allies amongst them.
 
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What's their TTP's main gripe with the Pakistan state anyway... do they want a full mullah regime ala Afghan talibs or worse, like ISIS ? Are they separatists ?

Jo bhi hai, khud ke paaley huwe snakes in the backyard mutate ho gaye, went from constrictors to deadly venomous.
 
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But but but Imran Khan is Taliban Khan lmao.
Man the sheeple that the Army has created are funny as fack.

yeah ok

what is plan B, if this engagement fails ?

What if the engagement goes OK, but the results don't come ?

What is the Taliban's stretegic objectives ? and how do they align with ours ?

It is this last part that poses the biggest challenges.
Gop's first and foremost duty is to offer services to her nationals.
Taliban have a religious agenda ..


What's their TTP's main gripe with the Pakistan state anyway... do they want a full mullah regime ala Afghan talibs or worse, like ISIS ? Are they separatists ?

Jo bhi hai, khud ke paaley huwe snakes in the backyard mutate ho gaye, went from constrictors to deadly venomous.

they want freedom to carry out smuggling, gun running, drug manufacturing
and keeping the border loose with afghanistan, so they can smuggle wheat, oil, rice, dollars and gold to afghanistan.
 
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Engaging with Taliban IS the way forward.
What happened has happened. Only another civil war in Afghanistan can dislodge Taliban from power now. That doesn’t seem like it will happen too soon. Better to accept reality and try working with Taliban. We have many allies amongst them.

Lol... First there is the Good Taliban and the Bad Taliban... Then there is the TTP that are actually cousins of the Afghan Taliban... Then there is the Haqqani Tabling versus the Kandahar Taliban... There is the Indian funded Taliban.. end of the day... All Afghans including Taliban hate Pakistan.... Because Pakistan's a failed banana republic.

Lol. ....

Soon when the corrupt establishment kills the "Taliban Khan" all the other Pathans will join all the other Talibans.... ;)


We can all sing the Taliban Song now....

 
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Engaging with the allies in the Taliban(not all Taliban in Afghanistan are friendly) is different with engaging with TTP. IK(and his camp within the establishment) wanted to even get TTP to start engaging in politics.
IK wanted to engage the TTP. If he did that then he is an idiot.

Honestly, in the current quagmire we are in, engaging Taliban would be OK, but in the bigger realm of things, few years down the line, we will have to take on the Taliban.
 
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IK wanted to engage the TTP. If he did that then he is an idiot.

Honestly, in the current quagmire we are in, engaging Taliban would be OK, but in the bigger realm of things, few years down the line, we will have to take on the Taliban.
Allama Iqbal and Quaid e Azam foresaw this back then - had the Indian leadership then any head and settled Kashmir, Pakistan was to serve as the buffer state against the Afghan frontier from India and offer it stability against what was then the Soviet Union. A US -Canada situation except politics especially that mixed with religion was never to let it be.

Now, while Pakistani is the buffer it also has the potential to spill next to India if things collapse.
 
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Best way is to close the border indefinatly until and all hostilities cease and cross border infiltration stops.
 
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they want freedom to carry out smuggling, gun running, drug manufacturing
and keeping the border loose with afghanistan, so they can smuggle wheat, oil, rice, dollars and gold to afghanistan.
That border has always been kind of like a crazy tribal badlands area, no proper fencing, surveillance and so on, hasn't it ?
 
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The Taliban i.e. Afghans don't recognise the Durand Line border.

How are you going to talk to the Taliban, Northern Alliance or any Afghan for that matter that don't recognise the border? The Afghans are only interested in reopening the Durand Line border and even claiming parts of Pakistan. Good luck with that.

That border has always been kind of like a crazy tribal badlands area, no proper fencing, surveillance and so on, hasn't it ?

It is funny you say that. Indians are the same people that support Afghan claims on Pakistani land.
 
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