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See?? the people of arakan speaks chittagong dialect! SO THE ARAKAN belongs to us.....
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Just 25% of population of Rakhine state are Rohingyas.
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See?? the people of arakan speaks chittagong dialect! SO THE ARAKAN belongs to us.....
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See?? the people of arakan speaks chittagong dialect! SO THE ARAKAN belongs to us.....
and with that their land.....Rohingyas speak Bengali. ROHINGYAS BELONG TO BANGLADESH!!!
and with that their land.....
So you want nothing to do with the Rohingyas but if they had some land... Those poor people.
like We want Jerusalem for our Palestinian brothers ..
We want Arakan for our Rohingya brothers....
As for my, somewhat biased, Burmese view on all this,
I first want to say that I have total and utmost sympathy for the stateless Rohingya people.
All peoples, irrespective of race and religion, deserve to have a place to live in peace and prosperity. However, to place the blame at the feet of the Burmese is a little unfair. I do believe that previous Burmese governments have been unjust towards these people but it has to be remembered that they are not seeking integration into Burmese society (which I think is the best solution) but rather seek discord and an autonomous Islamic republic within Myanmar.
This has been done in the past through armed conflict and 'jihad' which, to an extent, has been supported by hardline Bangladeshi islamists. There is absolutely no condition in which the Burmese will allow a separate, autonomous, islamic Rohingya state to exist within Burmese borders and that is not just a government line but a consensus amongst Burmese.
What baffles me somewhat in these forums is the call for 'Arakani muslims' to rise up. As a quarter Arakanese myself, the Arakanese themselves are the most hostile towards the Rohingyas; moreso than the Burmese. What also baffles me is that Bangladesh, an islamic, Bengali nation, is completely against allowing the Rohingya to settle in Bangladesh. Rohingya and Bangladeshis have far more cultural and religious ties with each other than with the Burmese, so I don't understand why, in the interests of muslim brotherhood, Bangladeshis are so opposed to letting 1 million Bengali-like muslims to settle in a nation of 160 million Bengali muslims.
enced rule that there isn't a bigger problem with islamists in the country. The military government in the past, somewhat counter-intuitively, has protected the rights of muslims to build mosques etc. within Myanmar going against popular opinion. I think this has been becasue they oppose any form of social unreast which could destabalise their rule. So this situation transcends politics into the uglier realm of race and religion.
Anyway, I really hope this issue is resolved peacefully and judiciously but I also hope that Bangladesh becomes more constructive in its approach to the Rohingyas. It's very hypocritical for Bangladeshis to call for 'jihad' on one hand then claim on the other that these people are foreign citizens (technically untrue) and has nothing to do with Bangladesh. I also hope that Rohingyas stop to seek an autonomous islamic republic as that is simply unacceptable and no-one, including the international community, will support this. One last point I like to make is that there are many muslim Burmese citizens who live as integrated members of the Burmese community. They speak Burmese and swear allegiance to the country while practicing their faith and maintaining their values. There is no reason why Rohingyas cannot also do this and few Burmese would oppose them doing so.
alaungphaya, rohinya are not bengalis even though they might have some similarities with us.
Same things can be said for our immediate ethnic nieghbours in india( assamese, tripuri etc.) We have very similar genetic makeup, languages, we use the same script for our alphabets,our majority of our populationseither practices hinduism or islam, but we are of different races.
As far as i am concerened, rohingyas are burmese nationals. It is up to your country to bring peace among the different ethnic groups. Anyway i do not have enough knowledge on why they do not want to assimilate with the burmese society and you have the right to get angry at them for not assimilating. But you do not have the right to push them away from their homeland
The key point is that as far as the Arakanese and the Burmese are concerned, their 'homeland' is Bangladesh. Now I don't necessarily agree with this but I don't believe that Bengalis and Rohingyas are different 'races'. I don't understand why Bengladeshis are so wilfully reluctant to accept these people as they are being persecuted, not just by the military government, but by the peoples of Arakan and Myanmar. Even the likes of Aung San Suu Kyi are distancing themselves from the issue as they don't want to admit that Rohingyas don't belong in Myanmar yet are trying to appease the international community by showing tolerance. If this issue is to be solved, Bangladesh must play a role in it as the people who will suffer are the Rohingyas; muslims who speak a Bengali dialect. If Bangladesh continues to solely consider this a Burmese matter, it will lead to more misery for the Rohingyas and voluntary refugees coming into BD. We should solve this issue bi-laterally.
The key point is that as far as the Arakanese and the Burmese are concerned, their 'homeland' is Bangladesh. Now I don't necessarily agree with this but I don't believe that Bengalis and Rohingyas are different 'races'. I don't understand why Bengladeshis are so wilfully reluctant to accept these people as they are being persecuted, not just by the military government, but by the peoples of Arakan and Myanmar. Even the likes of Aung San Suu Kyi are distancing themselves from the issue as they don't want to admit that Rohingyas don't belong in Myanmar yet are trying to appease the international community by showing tolerance. If this issue is to be solved, Bangladesh must play a role in it as the people who will suffer are the Rohingyas; muslims who speak a Bengali dialect. If Bangladesh continues to solely consider this a Burmese matter, it will lead to more misery for the Rohingyas and voluntary refugees coming into BD. We should solve this issue bi-laterally.
@avishek bro, look at his post...he wants Bangladesh to absorb their citizens....... Mane oder prob amader gharey chapay ditey chay! These people are historically wicked.... They promised Shah Suja safe passage to mecca, but upon arrival the arakan king raped Suja's daughter and tried to take his golds.... What can we expect from them?? Now i thing those savages will only understand bullet as language....
Rohingya and Bangladeshis have far more cultural and religious ties with each other than with the Burmese, so I don't understand why, in the interests of muslim brotherhood, Bangladeshis are so opposed to letting 1 million Bengali-like muslims to settle in a nation of 160 million Bengali muslims.
Another thing to point out is that it is partially because of military influenced rule that there isn't a bigger problem with islamists in the country. The military government in the past, somewhat counter-intuitively, has protected the rights of muslims to build mosques etc. within Myanmar going against popular opinion. I think this has been becasue they oppose any form of social unreast which could destabalise their rule. So this situation transcends politics into the uglier realm of race and religion.
Anyway, I really hope this issue is resolved peacefully and judiciously but I also hope that Bangladesh becomes more constructive in its approach to the Rohingyas.
It's very hypocritical for Bangladeshis to call for 'jihad' on one hand then claim on the other that these people are foreign citizens (technically untrue) and has nothing to do with Bangladesh.
I did not see any sympathy in your subsequent post. Why does Rohiyngia needs your sympathy in the first place. Is it because, they are not recognized as the citizen of Burma and your govt does not give them the right of citizenship?
First you deny their right as citizen and advocating them to ship abroad and you are blaming them not integrating with the society? What is your definition of integration? Cant they keep their own culture and the way of living only because some Tom Dick and Chenny did not like the ways?
It is your govt responsibility to integrate them with the mainstream society. Once a group has economic, educational and employment opportunity they will integrate by themselves for the better cause. Does your burmese society offered such benefits to those backward people? Do they have enough opportunity in the mainstream society or discriminated left and right?
Bangladesh was very soft on Burmese cause. If BD supported armed rebel it would had been a living nightmare for Burmese by now. BD virtually disarmed those rebels and had to do with its own risk and taking own security on stake. I again repeat, it will be a living hell for Burmese even if Bangladesh decide otherwise.
Well if I am not mistaken Arakanese are known as Rakhanie and we housed a plenty of them in our soil who were persecuted in the past. Even Rakhaine in BD wants a free Arakan. We are not supporting any group in Arakan as we take both Rakhanie and Rohingiyas have cultural ties with Bangladesh. It is the problem with Burmese government who failed miserably to subdue and communal tension in Arakan.
So the popular opinion is not to allow any mosque in Myanamr???
Ofcourse Rohingiyas have many thing to do with Bangladesh as they belong to Indic race and has linguistic and cultural ties with Bangladesh. That does not mean they are BD citizen. We have Bengalis living in India, Pakistan and all over the places and have their own country. Before partition the whole area was under british jurisdiction and people moved around. Bengalis and Arakanese lived side by side under independent Arakan for centuries without any communal problem. At the time of partition in 1947, the people within the political boundary or border became the citizen of the respective country. Bangladesh in no way obligated to receive any people from Burma after 1947/1948. Rohingyas should be recognized as the citizen of Burma and be given equal rights. If the problem persists too long, then Burma will have no choice but have to relinquish its control of norther Arakan in the future.