Besides Kashmir, What else are the reason of animosity between India and Pakistan?

[Kaniska]

Pakistan do not beleive in concept of India...that is the big problem...For Pakistan Pdf posters, only Muslims are the pious people on earth who deserve to live happily...Hindus are not equal to them ...

So Kashmir is just an effect...After Kashmir they will demand something else...

It is more than just Kashmir..our secular politicians are just under delusion that if Kashmir valley is given to Pakistan...then India and Pakistan will live happily...

 

[PakSword]

Pakistan do not beleive in concept of India...that is the big problem...For Pakistan Pdf posters, only Muslims are the pious people on earth who deserve to live happily...Hindus are not equal to them ...

Not true..

Being a Non Muslim doesn't mean that a person lacks morality..

I think most of the problems will be solved once Kashmir issue is solved..

It is more than just Kashmir..our secular politicians are just under delusion that if Kashmir valley is given to Pakistan...then India and Pakistan will live happily...

I think most of the posters will disagree with me.. I believe that Kashmir should be freed and made an independent state rather than being asked to join India or Pakistan.. They are people with free will..

But for that, there must be an agreement in place with the Kashmiri leaders about water distribution, visa requirements, currency exchange etc, tourism restrictions..

 

[SorryNotSorry]

Indians stealing pakistans IVC history

Lol. False

 

[Champs Trophy 2017]

After solving Kashmir if India lets go its false sense of supremacy and considers Pakistan as equally sovereign nuclear state unlike other smaller countries around it, there should be no more reasons of animosity.

 

[Mugwop]

indians are clueless on why they hate Pakistan.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Not gonna happen,hey but if you say *for the sake of argument* Pakistan hands over pakistan_held kashmir then I am ready to argue


And do what

what a loser you are...
dream about peace but prepare for war.. your sick mind is kind of responsible for hate among themselves. i am sure you hate minorities.

 

[Salik]

Kashmir may have started as the immediate issue soon after partition, but the problem is far deep rooted than that despite what Pakistanis would like one to believe!

First of all, handing over Kashmir puts India in such a strategic vulnerability, militarily, that you would have to be really foolish as a Pakistani to NOT take further advantage of it to cut into Jammu/Ladakh and slice India into manageable chunks (Khalistan). And to think that the Pakistani mindset, that has been brought up with deep-rooted hatred of India and a sense of 1000-year-Muslim-rule-over-India crap, would suddenly turn the corner and let India/Hindus live peacefully, is really pushing it too far (even for Aman-Ki-Asha aunties)!

Besides, secession of Kashmir will only be seen as perpetuation of Two-Nation Theory. Handing Kashmir on a platter would only make Islamists in India salivate at the prospect and embolden them to make similar demands, of course with sufficient "moral support/instigation" from the Pakistan (Assam/WB, anyone?). Not to mention the bloodshed and mayhem that it will cause, that will dwarf, ABSOLUTELY DWARF, anything that was seen in 1947!

OTOH, you deny secession of Kashmir on religious lines, you automatically deny any further opportunity to partition India!

Far more than the resources or strategic advantage that Kashmir brings, it's role as the LINCHPIN that holds the Union together, that is indispensable for India. And it is for this reason that India will throw the proverbial kitchen sink at any attempt to wrest Kashmir and never let go of it!

You used the word 'crap', it's Maha Bull Crap, MBC. Respect your ancestors. There was no mutiny against the Mughals. Like there was against the Britishers. Mughals were uniting force for India. They made India India. What happened after the Mughals? India was divided and further divided. Mughals will bring glory back to India. We'll unite India again.

 

[Shajida Khan]

After solving Kashmir if India lets go its false sense of supremacy and considers Pakistan as equally sovereign nuclear state unlike other smaller countries around it, there should be no more reasons of animosity.

Well, Be more precise. What should happen so you can say India "considers Pakistan as equally sovereign nuclear state"? Honestly, both India and Pakistan are NOT considered Nuclear Weapons State as per NPT by P5 at least de jure. What do you want India to do about it?

 

[Kaniska]

indians are clueless on why they hate Pakistan.

In a way, you are true...different part of India has different reason to not to allign with Pakistan...But it is also true, that we do not question why Pakistan is created...Again, i am not talking about politicians...Rather, most of the current generation will feel happy that it is good Pakistan got created as it is technically impossible to live with set of people who are in different thought process than us...So at least we should be both assured, no one would like to question about why some nation got created.

Challenge is about past history of Hindus where they are always invaded by Muslim rulers who are not from our land...That created a sense of insecurity and sense of anatagonism in Hindu psche that Muslims never like to be with Hindus based on equality...The fear that some day, Muslims will again force their culture on Hindus is creating ripples in mind of Hindus...

Gandhiji's call to make India for all was one of the biggest challenge to be accepted in modern day today...It is a very good concept, but it is a challenge to implement it with limited resource. Rather, it would have been ideal and may be both of us can be in a good relation to make a Muslims Pakistan and Hindus or Non Muslim India as 2 nations...If that was the call, then there is no need for India to even hold on to Kashmir....

People says, move on leave the history....Most of the hindus are ready to leave the history...But does the Muslims in general ready to leave the past??? If Muslims can protest about issues that are 500 years old...then that creates ripples in the mind of Hindus like me, why i should only forget my history????

So in a nutshell, Kashmir is just the reason for both of us to be in conflict with each other...If there is no Kashmir today, Pakistan will find something else...So what is the point in allowing Pakistan supporters to have a good like by allowing independence...If we are suffering with conflict for 70 year, we will also sure, anti Indian elements waste their generations in conflict in Kashmir valley...

 

[hussain0216]

I always said if india had not occupied Kashmir then within 2 decades the wounds of Partition would have healed and the countries would have looked to each other as obvious trading partners, allies etc and SAARC may have been usefull and not a utter waste of time


Kashmir created endless conflict and hatred and stoped the wounds from healing


We couldn't give a toss about the rest of india but Kashmir is a muslim majority part of Pakistan

 

[Kaniska]

Well, Be more precise. What should happen so you can say India "considers Pakistan as equally sovereign nuclear state"? Honestly, both India and Pakistan are NOT considered Nuclear Weapons State as per NPT by P5 at least de jure. What do you want India to do about it?

Dear friend...your question is very honest, the answer of this question is very ugly..
- If Kashmir is given independence, then there will be question within India, why Gandhi created secular India when Muslims gets their piece of land based on their religion but Hindus did not...Congress will be technically wiped out of political space of India...So at least politically, it is a suicidal for any secular political parties to provide any flexibility to Kashmir valley to get separated.
- On ground, most of the Indian knows Kashmir valleys does not like India...Nothing new about it...And that is the big problem too..Most of the Indian people do not really care if Kashmir valley suffers in human rights...Because, if they did not care about Indian and can call Indian dogs are out, then why should any one care about them..Let them pay the price for being anti Indian...
- Again, it is about mindset of Pakistan, the nature of Islam to always try to be in war with non other religion...You do not have to look any where for examples...Just around the world, most of the Islamic countries are in war in middle east, Africa and so one..That creates trust deficiency for Hindus, how can you trust Pakistan after handing over Kashmir that they will not find another reason to fight with us...

 

[313ghazi]

There is no single entity such as India. There is no uniform identity or perspective. Most Indians from the East, South etc have no problem with Pakistan. The upper caste Hindus from the east and North will always have a problem. They consider us Pakistan as "thier territory" so will always hold animosity towards us.

Also the upper caste Hindus in areas with high Muslim populations will always consider us the enemy as we took rule away from them and ruled them for 1000 years.

 

[American Pakistani]

Dear friend...your question is very honest, the answer of this question is very ugly..
- If Kashmir is given independence, then there will be question within India, why Gandhi created secular India when Muslims gets their piece of land based on their religion but Hindus did not...Congress will be technically wiped out of political space of India...So at least politically, it is a suicidal for any secular political parties to provide any flexibility to Kashmir valley to get separated.
- On ground, most of the Indian knows Kashmir valleys does not like India...Nothing new about it...And that is the big problem too..Most of the Indian people do not really care if Kashmir valley suffers in human rights...Because, if they did not care about Indian and can call Indian dogs are out, then why should any one care about them..Let them pay the price for being anti Indian...
- Again, it is about mindset of Pakistan, the nature of Islam to always try to be in war with non other religion...You do not have to look any where for examples...Just around the world, most of the Islamic countries are in war in middle east, Africa and so one..That creates trust deficiency for Hindus, how can you trust Pakistan after handing over Kashmir that they will not find another reason to fight with us...

Absolute c0w $h1t of cr@p. I used to think you were a much better poster than what I read today.

If Kashmir issue is solved, Pakistan and India might be similar to Germany and France if not US and Canada. Pakistan will be able to concentrate on it's problems with Afghanistan, as India won't be an issue for it then. If you check Pakistani leaders, most of the popular leaders state that they want good relations with India. Pakistan and India's economy might quadriple in just a decade because they both will start trading with each other.

Problems in Middle East are not created by Middle East countries. It is pure and clear that outsiders want war and chaos in Middle East to keep them occupied with each other, else Saudi Arabia and UAE would be in top 5 economic powers today. These wars in Middle East restrict those nations to progress economically, and make them reliant on buying stuff from outside. Just like happen in Saudi Qatari case, where Saudi announced buying weapons worth 350 billion soon after which Qatari went on shopping spree. Divide and rule is very visible in Middle East.

 

[shootingstar]

Alright, say *for the sake of argument* India free Kashmir (only valley not Jammu or Laddakh) peacefully without any war and let them decide to join Pakistan or stay independent -- joining India is not an option-- what will be the direction taken by Pakistani government?

Rather what will be the issues for India and Pakistan to still be enemies?

Will they remain as much of an enemy as they are right now?

What do you think India Pakistan dynamics will look like say 10 years from that even. Assuming India makes no claims or any intervention with Kashmiris.

Not just for argument's sake but I hope Indian leaders would see the reality and let go Kashmiris. Let them choose what they want to be.

 

[Hamza913]

Alright, say *for the sake of argument* India free Kashmir (only valley not Jammu or Laddakh) peacefully without any war and let them decide to join Pakistan or stay independent -- joining India is not an option-- what will be the direction taken by Pakistani government?

Rather what will be the issues for India and Pakistan to still be enemies?

Will they remain as much of an enemy as they are right now?

What do you think India Pakistan dynamics will look like say 10 years from that even. Assuming India makes no claims or any intervention with Kashmiris.

We will still fight over the other heinous crimes Hindustan commits regularly.