Ben Affleck gets worked up defending Islam on Bill Maher's show

[Developereo]

@Developereo Maher is not Jewish. At least according to the secular laws of the land he has rejected both Judaism and as an adult, Catholicism.

He is an Atheist, and whatever alleged hatred he has against Islam flows from his Atheist belief system. American Jews are a different beast altogether from Israeli jews as well.

There a lot of Jewish intellectuals, comedian in America who support the Palestinian cause as well

Please read the thread before commenting.
All this has been covered.

 

[Chronos]

the answer was expected, thus
Let me ask again specifically, do "you" condemn Hezbollah and Hamas... ?




You are now mixing political and religious issues... Israel was formed by the governing colonial power, just like your country, without the consideration of the majority opinion. Bill Maher's documentary was specifically to expose religious ridiculousness and he did a great job in doing so.

actually, I seem to remember him taking a swipe at Orthodox Jews in his movie.

Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

@Developereo Maher is not Jewish. At least according to the secular laws of the land he has rejected both Judaism and as an adult, Catholicism.

He is an Atheist, and whatever alleged hatred he has against Islam flows from his Atheist belief system.

Does not matter. Dev stamped - 'Juden'....Neeexxxxt!

 

[Developereo]

Ok you still abide by the Nuremberg race laws of 1935. Bill Maher - Jude
But even then he is a Mischlinge. Or Mixed race.

Another clueless Indian blabbering without even knowing Jewish laws and customs.

 

[Chronos]

Please read the thread before commenting.
All this has been covered.

sorry, by the time I posted reply, two pages had been added to the convo.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Another clueless Indian blabbering without even knowing Jewish laws and customs.

Sir, I am Indian. How do you expect me know things o wise one?

 

[Developereo]

actually, I seem to remember him taking a swipe at Orthodox Jews in his movie.

Correct me if I am wrong.

You are absolutely right.

You know which Orthodox Jews he slammed?
The very small, insignificant group who uses religious texts to oppose Israel!

Meanwhile, he completely ignored the vast majority of Jewish fanatics who use religious texts to support Israel.

 

[gambit]

Catholicism and Islam are different in the Religious Institutional structure. Catholics have accepted a central leadership, and have the Pope as the highest authority on Earth.

While Muslims being Muslims, have a decentralized structure, granted all Muslims view the House of Saud as the Guardians Islam's Holiest sites of Mecca and Medina, we, thankfully, don't take their fatwas. There a Three different denominations of Islam, Sunni, Shia, Sufi. Continuing on this, there are also Five different schools of thought in Islam, in Sunni; Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, and Hanbali. Each differ in certain aspects of worship.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think that there is any theological barrier in Islam that forbid the Muslims from creating at least a nominal central authority figure like an advisory council where all Muslims could focus their questions regarding their faith.

Just like political entities, competing authority figures always results in civil wars inside borders. Christianity is politically defanged but as a whole, Islam is not, hence the sectarian conflicts we see today in Islam. Follow politics long enough, and a pattern emerges: That it is extremely rare that a civil war remains inside any border and so sooner or later, neighbors will get involved, either by will or by circumstance.

The Saudis are essentially holding your holy places hostage. It does not matter if you like their version of Islam or not. In holding your holy places hostage, they essentially positioned themselves as 'guardians' of Islam and will export their version of Islam independent of contentions or contracts from other sects. Simpy put: Why should they care for your opinions ?

Am sorry to say this but telling us non-believers the differences among you Muslims is of no help for the immediate situations we see today. Possibly, it is too late for the Muslims to enter into any sort of dialogue among yourselves as to how to resolve your differences outside of force. Pessimistically, I predict there will be a bloody civil war in the ME to attempt to establish a primacy among the sects. The blood will flow greater than the one between Iran and Iraq. And we will be dragged into this civil war.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Correct me if I am wrong.

Does not matter. There is a war in this world that has been going on. We don't see it because we don't wish to see.Some people have already taken their sides and you should not expect them to abandon it. You know what I mean.

Meanwhile, he completely ignored the vast majority of Jewish fanatics who use religious texts to support Israel.

See @Ravi Nair - here also the issue is the existence of Israel.

 

[Chronos]

Does not matter. There is a war in this world that has been going on. We don't see it because we don't wish to see.Some people have already taken their sides and you should not expect them to abandon it. You know what I mean.

Yes.

Jews control the financial system, controls the U.S. government and......

JEWS!!!!!

 

[MilSpec]

actually, I seem to remember him taking a swipe at Orthodox Jews in his movie.

Correct me if I am wrong.

On the video posted here I do support what ben said... but callin bill a bigot just because he exposed some hard truth which makes some here uncomfortable was uncalled for, especially when they themselves are calling for blanket fatwa of israel but very conveniently turn a blind eye to hamas and hezbollah.... and then have the audacity to call others bigots....

 

[gambit]

Another clueless Indian blabbering without even knowing Jewish laws and customs.

I found a lot of knowledge about Jewish customs and laws among the Stormfront members.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Yes.

Jews control the financial system, controls the U.S. government and......

JEWS!!!!!

Bingo. A bit funny, unless you are Jewish.

 

[Chronos]

I found a lot of knowledge about Jewish customs and laws among the Stormfront members.

actually, the stormfront obsession about Jews is Pathetically hilarious.

It must pain to know that your every waking thought is held hostage by a community you loathe.

On the video posted here I do support what ben said... but callin bill a bigot just because he exposed some hard truth which makes some here uncomfortable was uncalled for, especially when they themselves are calling for blanket fatwa of israel but very conveniently turn a blind eye to hamas and hezbollah.... and then have the audacity to call others bigots....

btw, I do still find the number of people in countries like Egypt, Pakistan and Malaysia who think apostasy requires the death penalty to be disturbing. It reaches beyond 60%

 

[MilSpec]

btw, I do still find the number of people in countries like Egypt, Pakistan and Malaysia who think apostasy requires the death penalty to be disturbing. It reaches beyond 60%

Different value system defines different societies....