We know that US had trained fighters in Libya, and we know that US has been training fighters in Syria, and we know many of them have joined ISIS.
This is why I said you don't understand the situation and to a point, what were I saying.
US train a lot of troop overseas, they may ended up fighting for US or they may ended up fighting against US, some will went on to serve a Terrorist group, does that mean the US trained the terrorist group?
US help trained Iranian defence force and Guards as well as intelligence committee back in the 70s, and then Islamic Resolution started and most of the trained officer went on to serve in Hezbollah, does that mean US trained Hezbollah?
Times change, same with ideology and allegiance, US trained those people when they were friend and they change their allegiance then it would hardly be an American problem. US also trained Vietminh during WW2 and OSI officer trained Ho Chi Minh personally, in fact, the Vietnam independence speech by Ho is a word by word copy form the US declaration of Independence. Does that equal to US supported the North Vietnam government headed by Ho? Back in Vietnam War?
That alone is far more than what China has done contrary to your earlier statement. And there are still a lot of things we don't know. But with US track record , I won't categorically deny any such possibility.
That alone amount to a word called "Hearsay" I don't know is it in China, but in the US, if you suspect someone of wrong doing, they are "Innocent before Proven Guilty" you, along with
@TaiShang have an habit to pin something on US and then ask the people in the US to prove it wrong. The problem is, the burden of proof is on the accuser, so if you want to accuse someone or some country for doing something, you need to show hard proof for your claim or like any baseless claim, it will simply got throw out of court.
You say Turkey say no ISIS in that area means no? You might as well say the earth is cube and we shall all believe it?
Dude, it's not turkey, it's the Russian said their Su--24 is supporting the operation in the Turkmen Village themselves.
Putin: Downing Of Jet A 'Stab In The Back'
Beside, did you even know where ISIS is from and where is Syria, Iraq and Jordan in world map?? Can you point it out in the world map below?
ISIS is from Iraq and Jordan, which is S/SE of Syria, The shot down is near Lebanon Border in NW. Where West of Aleppo. While Turkey have troop stationed INSIDE Syria in Suleyman Shah’s tomb East of Aleppo, There aren't any ISIS in the region the Su-24 shot down. This is common Knowledge. A fact not even Russia trying to hide
I think our friend
@TaiShang may just be a bit liberal in his placing of blame on the genesis of international terrorism. Perhaps his choice of words in 'western fascists' is a bit unorthodox, but by principle, I must agree with him on the role of extremist Wahabi theology that has sprung from Saudi Arabia and exported from said country and surrounding GCC states to the region and beyond. One thing is clear tho, my friend, there are many 'factions' in regards to the Syria/Iraq region , and various "fingers" playing a role geopolitical developments there. I suppose our Chinese friends should not be too surprised about this aspect, and it is not just the "fascist westerners" who have caused incense radicalism and demand in said region. There are various domestic regional forces, as well as international forces at play here.
I am not laughing at him because he said US support of ISIS, AQ and alike, some one else said that already, did I laugh at him about it?
I laugh at him because he have ZERO, NADA, ZIP, LING (零) idea of how Middle East works and how ISIS work but he somehow moonlighting on the issue which make an complete arse of himself, as I said, I am still recovering from all the laughing last time he said British is Instrumental on the establishment of Muslim Brotherhood (He actually said Islamic Brotherhood) and responsible for the Arab Spring. While the sole purpose said brotherhood was established is to PUSH the British Commonwealth Force out of Egypt back in the 20/30s. So, what he is saying is that the UK established an organisation so they can fight with in Egypt. Funny, ain't it.
What happened in Syria now is not as easy or Black and White as they claim. It's what ISIS want to lure the West or Russia into a ground war in Middle East.
Why I say that? It's because that's how ISIS recruit their fighter, they recruit their rank by showing the West/Non-Muslim occupying the Muslim land and abuse their power. What better serve a recruiting tool by showing Western/Russia boots on the ground in Syria? So that ISIS will simply turn them into propaganda and that's how they get the number, simply because those Muslim living in those region was not educated, they basically will believe what they (ISIS recruiter) said, plus, if they actually see Western soldier near their home, then you simply just push them toward the arms of ISIS.
The only way you can fight ISIS is to use local resource, in Iraq, the question is a bit clear, as Iraq have a functioning government. Even Iran know who to bet with, in Syria, the situation is not as much clear, As they are fighting a 5 way civil war in Syria. (AQ, FSA, Assad, ISIS and Kurd) the problem is, no matter which one you choose to back, you will almost ended up getting called as "supporter of terrorism (all 5 support Terrorism)", as the 5 way fight complicated the situation a lot.
There are only 2 ways this can goes, to fight a 4 + gen war (if you remember, I have covered what's 4 + Generation warfare in PDF before
Modern Warfare 1GW to 4GW+ either the world response and send an international force to crush all 5 front at the same time, or have them battling out each other and see who play the ultimate winner. For the first one to go, the world need to have a force that operate without "Ulterior Motive" which unfortunate to say there aren't going to happen, US will have his motive (Backing FSA) Russia will have its own motive (Propping Assad regime) Turkey will have its own and so does Saudi Arabia and any other country. In the end, it just won't work.
The only other way is to support the local fraction, which his what the US has been doing, and if you want to call that supporting terrorist, then well....