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why banglasdesh cannot concentrate on next 20 years growth..industrial revive...narrow down approach for forming allies..and concentrate on 1-1 relations with all its neighbours...i read in many articles that bangladeshi people are hard working..but there are not enough good conditions..because bangladeshi leadership (overall political approach) is quite negative....it is very clear..if bangladesh has to have clear cut approach for alteat next 20 years..and than only it can come on the world map..lke singapore, hongkong, and other small states which are successful economically....bangladeshi leadership has to remember that they cannot forms camps..unlike other countries..they cannot afford to become proxy..but if there is development...growth..revive than they should follow the suite
 
A very interesting read on this issue.

Myanmar: An emerging security threat​

Shah Mohammed Saifuddin



Our foreign policy advocates for friendship to all and malice to none, which also dictates our strategic and security outlook. So, one should not be surprised that Bangladesh is very reluctant to view her neighbours as a source of security threats despite the fact that she is having some bilateral issues with her neighbours, particularly India, and Myanmar due to their aggressive policy, in the shape of land/maritime border demarcation, illegal migration, refugee influx, illegal drugs and small arms trade, and human trafficking. Despite our policy of harmonious and amicable coexistence with our neighbours, we should not be oblivious of the need for a peaceful and stable border and therefore we should take cognizance of factors that could create threats to our national security.

In this thread we will confine our discussion to possible security threats from Myanmar that could lead both the nations to a low intensity, or even to a high intensity conflict and strategies that Bangladesh should use to reduce the possibility of such conflicts, or to achieve a desired end in the conflict in case a military confrontation is unavoidable.

First let us examine the source of bilateral irritants between Bangladesh and Myanmar that could give rise to conflicts between the two neighbours:

1. Maritime Border Demarcation: Being surrounded by India and Myanmar, Bangladesh can hardly overemphasize the need to demarcate its maritime boundary on just and equitable basis to assert her sovereignty over its resource rich EEZ (Exclusive Economic Zone) and beyond through which almost 90% of its external trade is conducted. Failure in delineating maritime border may cause Bangladesh to be reduced to a mere landlocked country and lose its strategic significance and relevance in South Asian context.

2. Rohingya Refugee issue: Myanmar has a poor human rights record for suppressing and depriving its minority communities of basic rights and privileges and as a result of this thousands of Muslim Rohingya refugees cross into Bangladesh territory to escape the atrocities committed by the military junta. Bangladesh with the help of international community has tried to resolve this issue through diplomatic channel but due to Myanmarese military junta's stubbornness, the refugee problem could not be resolved and this is creating security, economic, and social problems in the country. Military junta's refusal to recognize Rohyngias as citizens and continuous attempt to push them inside Bangladesh territory may lead to a conflict situation if not properly handled.

3. Illegal small arms trade: Illegal small arms trade is a flourishing business along Bangladesh-Myanmar border despite all the efforts by Bangladesh Rifles to curb such activities in the border areas. If Myanmar fails to cooperate in stopping illegal arms trade in the border areas, criminals and terrorist groups may create threats to internal law and order situation of Bangladesh.

4. Illegal drugs trade: Because of long military rule, self imposed isolation, and economic embargo by the international community, the military junta relies heavily on poppy cultivation and drug trading for revenues. Being near the notorious 'golden triangle'--a heaven for illegal drug dealings--- Bangladesh faces an imminent danger and this cannot be tackled without full cooperation, which is unlikely to be forthcoming, from Myanmar.

5. Unfriendly NASAKA: The Myanmarese border security force known as NASAKA is a matter of concern for Bangladesh. This particular organization is involved in all sorts of human rights violation, illegal trading, killing and whatnot. Unless NASAKA is turned into a professional force guided by a specific set of code of conduct, a border conflict may break out between them and BDR because of the irrational behaviour of the former jeopardizing stability in the 200 km long border shared by both the neighbours.

Analysis of the strategic landscape

Now let us analyze the strategic landscape to understand the potential players, who might get involved if a military conflict breaks out between Bangladesh and Myanmar.

Myanmar: As I have explained already that Myanmar is a pariah state and has little influence over the international community to form an opinion in favour of them. They are under heavy economic and military embargo for human rights violation and lack of respect for democracy. Having said that we should not lose sight of growing relation between China and Myanmar and it must be taken into consideration by Bangladesh and international community because China as a regional power will play an important role in any conflict between countries adjacent to her border . We will talk about China in just a moment but let me add that the Myanmarese military has been completely revamped with the help of Chinese assistance. New divisions have been raised with supporting units and hardware to make it one of the largest militaries in South East Asia. As per Internet and print media, Myanmar has received huge quantity of military hardware including artillery pieces, tanks, APCs, trucks, high speed jet fighters, naval vessels from China, Israel, and other nations. They have improved logistic backup to carryout sustained military operations within their border. They have also gained enormous experience in counter-insurgency in the last 20 years. But their weakness lies in their fragile economy and isolation from the international community, which, I believe, put them in a disadvantageous position to achieve a desired end in the war against Bangladesh.

China: China has a long term strategic interest in Myanmar due, mainly, to latter's convenient geographic location, which the Chinese navy intends to use in its pursuit to advance toward the Indian Ocean, and huge energy reserve. Along with a number of listening posts in the Myanmarese sea territory, the Chinese have also invested heavily in developing sea ports in Myanmar with repair , maintenance, and fuel facilities for the Chinese navy. So, China views Myanmar as a strategic partner, which is the gateway to the Indian Ocean and a cheap source of hydrocarbon to meet its burgeoning demand for energy.

As a permanent member of U.N. Security council, China has the veto power that can be used as a stick against Western pressure to discipline the military junta of Myanmar. But whether or not China will use the veto power is subject to how they perceive their relation with Bangladesh, which has seen a steady rise in the last 30 years, vis-a-vis Myanmar. The strategic analysts believe that China acknowledges the strategic significance of Bangladesh due to its peculiar geographic location, which cuts the North Eastern region off from the rest of India and acts as a bridge between SAARC and ASEAN, and offers access to Indian Ocean via the Bay of Bengal. The growing Chinese economic and military assistance to Bangladesh is a testament to latter's strategic significance to China and its military. So in the end, China may end up being a peace broker between Bangladesh and Myanmar to stop them from starting a conflict, or stop the conflict from escalating and keep the Western powers at bay both to safeguard its strategic interest in Myanmar and Bangladesh, and to end the conflict in Chinese terms.

Other UNSC members: In any conflict between Bangladesh and Myanmar, America will side with Bangladesh simply because both the nations believe in democratic values, freedom of speech and respect for human rights, and both are partners against war on terror. On the other hand, America is one of the staunchest critics of the Myanmarese military junta for its lack of respect for human rights and democracy. Americans, themselves, have already imposed an economic and arms embargo on Myanmar, and persuaded other Western allies to do the same to put pressure on the military junta to restore democracy in the country. So, in a conflict situation, Bangladesh will find America on its side but Myanmar will face even more isolation for attacking a democratic country.

Britain, and France, both seeking a regime change to restore democracy in Myanmar, will also join America to support Bangladesh in its fight against Myanmarese military junta.

Russia, being one of the few countries that supported the independence movement of Bangladesh, and having a close defense relation with Myanmar, may find itself in a difficult diplomatic situation and may only offer itself as a peace broker to maintain neutrality in the conflict situation.

Other players

India: India views Myanmar as an important country for the success of its 'look east policy', and as a good source of cheap energy reserve to meet its rising energy demand. India is also seeking to cultivate deep economic and defense relations with the military junta to counterbalance Chinese influence in Myanmar for its own strategic advantage. At the same time, the policymakers of New Delhi are aware of their role in the independence movement of Bangladesh and its strategic significance in the security of North East India. So, like Russia, India may also seek neutrality in the conflict between Bangladesh and Myanmar and play the role of a peace broker to end the conflict.

Arab countries: Being the 3rd largest Muslim country in the world, Bangladesh is expected to get overwhelming moral and even logistical support from the Arab nations.

Strategic objectives of Bangladesh

1. To resolve any dispute through dialogue and avoid the possibility of a military confrontation

2. In case a military confrontation is unavoidable, limit the scope of confrontation to minimize the loss of lives and properties

3. In case the conflict takes the shape of a full scale war, break the will of the Myanmarese military to fight by inflicting heavy damage upon its men, machine, and economy


Strategies to follow

1. To launch an intense diplomatic effort both bilateral, and multilateral, involving China, and the U.N.

2. To use BDR just to repel sporadic border incursions and keep the army on a stand by mode, and continue with diplomatic efforts to diffuse tension

3. To create a naval blockade against Myanmar to take control of its commercial shipping lanes and use the full military might to force the aggressor to retreat, and ask for help from America and its allies, and the Muslim countries, to achieve a desired end in the conflict.

The New Nation - Internet Edition
 
well my opinion is that if any country which would like fighting a war shoud have fought with its neighbours for any reasons may it be .....10-15 years back...if somebody fights in 21st century..where most o fthe generation change has taken place...we eventually lead to long term hatred, mis-trust, enemosity and hinderance to economic growth.

perhaps bangladesh and other countries should look in this way...
 
we may never go to war but that doesn't mean our citizens are secure from the Burmese threat.What happens from day to day matters.

Damn I don't think that I will ever forget that Coast Guard officer's statement. That really humiliated me.

Does the Island of St.Martin act as a border between the two countries?

perhaps bangladesh and other countries should look in this way...
Maybe you should tell that to the Myanmarese??Oh I forgot they didn't even let Ban Ki Moon in!Such a peaceful nation! and we are the only 3rd world country who abide by the UN.It's such an ineffective organisation.
 
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i agree with you.

but what about sharing borders, having single currency, free trade, building fast track or may be the fastest like the bullet trains, TGV across borders, no visa requirement, having one power grid for exchange of electricity......

please do not mind did any of your (i mean not only bangladesh but collectively all countries) leadership really seriously discusseed on these future issues...or just the problems, threats ...that it can face in the future...

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take an example of europe...just put it...i think what is happening in asia...is the leadership of all the countries are enjoying their vacations in switzerland and they create a hysteria among the countrymen that there is war or threat...possibily there is no spesial efforts by them to solve these issues
 
The European Union was possible because you are all Christian states.
as for leadership our country lacks leadership.Totally.
 
The European Union was possible because you are all Christian states.
as for leadership our country lacks leadership.Totally

religion never comes in way my friend....is Myanmar and bangladesh.... the same religion....i take your example only...but as you say u have some differences....

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furhter the success for developement for west...was not religion but great leadership...
 
And do you think that having greater volume of trade with Burma will help us bargain when we will be discussing disputed territory with them?Let me remind you those area are expected to be rich in oil and gas.So you see no one will leave their share.
That would probably be a good start but from the previous track record, I could guarantee that IND would vehemently try to spoil our party. See, BD is a $10 B's market for IND and every passing year it would be increasing. Do you think greedy, Banya, expansionist- IND, would ever allow it to let go out of its hand? By thinking all over the horizons and researching historic trends, pattern and occurrences I've come out to conclude that militarily powerful nation rule/would rule the world. Everything else is subordinate, by-product of it. That's why I've been promoting a NATO-type combined force of Muslims. Imagine how big of leverage like a career group or a build up of US-PA like force of Muslims in Bay-of-Bangle would bring for BD before doing any business with Burmese? We could have negotiated with them from strength unlike our current position. So, that should be the ideal way to look forward IMHO.
 
A very interesting read on this issue.

Myanmar: An emerging security threat​

Shah Mohammed Saifuddin

Above article failed to realize strategic aspect of the dispute and relation with Myanmar. And relation with Myanmar has more to do with strategy than any military conflict.

Even with hostile military posture,
  • Myanmar did offer Bangladesh vast tract of land for agricultural use.
  • Myanmar did offer Bangladesh to explore use of its hydro electric potential to meet growing electricity needs.
  • Myanmar still offers use of its territory to connect to China and ASEAN.

These offers still stand if Bangladesh can pursue as reflected during last visit by Awami FM to Myanmar. Besides, as mentioned by M_Saint, Myanmar still remains to be good and rather un explored export destination and source of our growing agri needs. This trading potential india sure does not want to flourish.

All these factors and willingness to co operate does not reflect pure and complete hostility towards Bangladesh. Bangladesh has to be smart to deploy right strategy than wrong headed and fall into trap indo-US interest are setting out.
 
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In the mean time as report published yesterday, China is willing and pushing to extend rail network from Bangladesh to China through Myanmar. China is willing to fund entire 2000 crore taka required for the project.

Question is if Awami govt will use this opportunity?

Report in Bangla:
AMAR DESH PUBLICATIONS
 
Arab countries: Being the 3rd largest Muslim country in the world, Bangladesh is expected to get overwhelming moral and even logistical support from the Arab nations.

Strategic objectives of Bangladesh

1. To resolve any dispute through dialogue and avoid the possibility of a military confrontation

2. In case a military confrontation is unavoidable, limit the scope of confrontation to minimize the loss of lives and properties

3. In case the conflict takes the shape of a full scale war, break the will of the Myanmarese military to fight by inflicting heavy damage upon its men, machine, and economy


Strategies to follow

1. To launch an intense diplomatic effort both bilateral, and multilateral, involving China, and the U.N.

2. To use BDR just to repel sporadic border incursions and keep the army on a stand by mode, and continue with diplomatic efforts to diffuse tension

3. To create a naval blockade against Myanmar to take control of its commercial shipping lanes and use the full military might to force the aggressor to retreat, and ask for help from America and its allies, and the Muslim countries, to achieve a desired end in the conflict.

The New Nation - Internet Edition

Good article. I would not agree upon the logistical support from the arab world.

A few more questions :
1. In case of a full scale war, how will you counter Burma's chemical weapons ?

2. How will you effect a naval blockade? This one took me by surprise.

Thanks.
 
Good article. I would not agree upon the logistical support from the arab world.

A few more questions :
1. In case of a full scale war, how will you counter Burma's chemical weapons ?

2. How will you effect a naval blockade? This one took me by surprise.

Thanks.

It did not take long for indians to come and promote conflicts with Myanmar, just as predicted.
 
Good article. I would not agree upon the logistical support from the arab world.

A few more questions :
1. In case of a full scale war, how will you counter Burma's chemical weapons ?

2. How will you effect a naval blockade? This one took me by surprise.

Thanks.
Good article or Bullock? It was nothing but blowing thing out of proportion. And the author didn’t have far sight to see Burmese threats were insignificant, recently emerged by Indian instigation. BTW why are we even discussing a war scenario with Burma over here? Leon, can you now see why I have objected opening a thread of this nature? Brother, there is a saying in BD; Satan creates war among two neighbors through the plantation of greed. Aren’t we fool enough to be divided among our friends and well-wishers? Let's stop the discussion of Burmese threat and neutralize both of our miss- understanding through sincere dialogue, work etc.
 
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Burmese threats were insignificant, recently emerged by Indian instigation. .

And which threats are we talking about here? . Mind you, you are alleging India instigating this perceived threats with Burma.

If you want to discuss, be specific. Else , you are just talking to please yourself, and not debating.
 

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